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post #61 of 605
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A few minor design updates. We added in the chair rail, which sound simple but this is an engineering model so technically every piece of molding is a separate model that then has to be brought into the other model.

The intent of the design is to make all of the walls appear flat. Where as the reality is there is 3 inch panels on the side walls and 7.5 inch panels on the rear walls. When you look at it thought it appears that its just 6 inch columns the entire way around. The rear corner is a new addition. I think Im going to make the corners be columns that match the front two columns to the left and right of the stage. I'm then going to cut 703 panels to that shape to fill the panel and make rear bass traps for the corners to go with the monster traps on the rear walls.

I think the screen is finalized at 115 inches wide 235.



post #62 of 605
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Next week I need to add in the crown molding. Seems like a minor thing but the point of it is to design the lighting, where I want ropes, etc. I had my electrician come over today and take a look at things. I need to give him a plan of how I want it all zoned off.
post #63 of 605
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Originally Posted by BIGmouthinDC View Post

As a general rule of thumb you need 6 1/2 ft from the first row chair back to the second row chair back for reclining seats, anything less and your feet will hit the first row before hitting the recline position.

Is that 6 1/2 feet from the back of a reclined second row seat or upright second row seat? And a related question: how far from the back wall should you place a recliner if you want to have columns with two speakers behind the seating area?
post #64 of 605
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Heres my latest update thoughts, I've been discussing in a thread in the audio section but ill add it here.

I moved the columns so now they are not only symmetrical, but it makes it so the front columns can have speakers that are 60 degrees away. Im designing the theater to have 11.1 sound.

Though Im trying to figure out how to do it, all the receivers are only 9.2.

Ive also spent a lot of time on the little detail, where crown will go, where to put rope lighting...etc.

Oh, and I'm leaning heavily towards a star ceiling.
post #65 of 605
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Question: How much room do I need for legroom for movie theater seating? I don't think I can get more than 20 inches...think thats enough?

I could possibly move the front row a few inches if I really had too...
post #66 of 605
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Just wanted to update this so when I look back I can see how long this process has been...

I agreed to finish our master bath first because he said it would be done in 14 days. What he didn't say is that he wouldnt just work 14 8 hour days over 3 weeks. Instead he works one 3 hour day a week so it'll take months and months...

So the basement is still being used to store my beer. Ive brewed 6 different beers since I started this thread so I'm prepared for the bar to go in after the theater.

on some AV related news I just ordered the AMP300 from outdoor speaker depot and four of their 840 8 inch speakers to put out in the yard. Gotta get that up next weekend before a cookout I'm having. The amp and receiver will sit in the unfinished basement until theater gets done and they can go in the rack...
post #67 of 605
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I'm sure this is the first time anyone has heard this...but I ran into some...delays!

Long story short, contractors in my area are less that reliable. I wanted some help but oh well its time to go DIY!

I've made some progress and finally today got the two things I needed to start. I got all of my walls in my basement sprayed with closed cell foam. And I got my mini split units installed. My basement and house had duct work but i converted over entirely to mini splits. So I now have 12 zones in my house! The main reason for this started with the theater. Now I dont have to worry about any of the sound issues with hvac.

So now the insulation and hvac are done so its time for electric. I have to finish planning how many breakers and outlets I want in the room. Im making the closet for all the equipment have its own breaker or two. And now im going over other peopels builds to see where Ill need outlets and confirm my light. photo.JPG 738k .JPG file
post #68 of 605
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spray foam on walls and mini split to heat/cool the room
post #69 of 605
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Im framing in the theater tomorrow! Itll officially be a framed off area for a theater!

I have to spend tonight rereading all the posts on this thread and everyone elses builds to remember my plan...damn one year delay
post #70 of 605
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So Ive been looking at this picture that Big put up... and im leaning towards making the second row not be able to put their feet up, or have much leg room, but have the seats match.

I wanted to do rear seats movie theater style, but then they dont match which makes the mrs unhappy. Since im already making the front row the ideal spot for sound, why not sacrifice on leg room too.

Im thinking I can maybe make it where the front row is 3 seats, the back is four, and the two outside seats on the row can have the legs open up. We sit all time now on a sofa where only the legs open up and the person in the middle shares so that option might work...

Another would be to only have 2 seats in the front, and four in the back. That would ensure the end seats can have the legs open up.

post #71 of 605
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And when I say not much leg room, Im talking like 12-14 inches...

My riser is planned to be 66, but then I have 9 inch deep speakers and my 16 inch deep sub that go against the back wall. So once you take off the ~17 inches for the speaker youre only left with 49 inches. Romans Fusion chairs that I want are 37.5 deep.

Their might be a few inches of wiggle room here or there. Like the line drawing of the seat says 37.5 but the base is probably narrower than the top. The base can go right against the sub and the top over hang so that might add 3-6 inches... I could move up the front row a LITTLE. Though I like that all the math calculated where I will be sitting. I was thinking if I really had to the front row could slide up a few inches just for when I have people over.
post #72 of 605
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Well as I said I started framing...and since I said that a year ago thats probably why no one has any interest in my thread anymore. But heres proof!

The first two pictures are me setting up some of the tools I just bought. They always say dont hire a contractor who only has new tools, well hiring contractors failed in general so looks like im the contractor with new tools now!

And of course our puppy wants to be a helper, hes in charge of drills

LL

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post #73 of 605
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So the first day my friend and I setup the tools, and completed the first wall along the stairs. Half of this wall existed so we had to create a wall for about a third of it, and then add the staggered stud for the entire length. This wall proved to be a pain because it was existing, and at this point things have settled, and/or went square to begin with. Its hard getting photos to turn out well since the outside walls are also unfinished right now

LL
post #74 of 605
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This photo shows where the next wall is going. This wall will have the door on it. This also shows the old soffit that we began to take down. After xmas week all of the duct work will be removed and Ill create a new soffit thats only about a foot wide. Im looking forward to having full 8 foot ceilings in the basement now!

LL
post #75 of 605
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So framing day two we completed the inside wall and doorway, and on day three we put up the outside wall for sound proofing. You can also see where we started to create the new soffit. Right now the new soffit is inside of the old soffit but all of the duct work will be moved and only that new soffit will remain. I have to do some rewiring, and move my two main water lines over to fit in the soffit. So thatll be a slow but necessary change.

If you can tell, the width of the doorway is different on each wall. I decided the inside is going to be a solid core door, and the outside is going to be a hidden door book shelf. You wont even notice the new soffit because the bookshelf will cover it.

LL

This is from the theater looking out

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This is a side view of the two new walls and the start of the soffit. Right now I cant take out the old duct work, and also because of how some of the wires are I havent disconnected the old recessed lights yet. Soon though...

LL

And this is a great view of how much space ill gain when the ducts come out!

LL
post #76 of 605
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I'd like to thanks Ted and John at the sound proofing company. After some discussions with them I ordered my clips and green glue. So I've got all that on hand now just waiting for teh old hvac to come out and me to finish the new electric.

As a side note, since this is called REDSKINema. Ive got high hopes for RGIII and am starting to think I need to start putting over time on the theater for a super bowl party!
post #77 of 605
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So I said I was going to have a hidden bookcase. For those who may recall my friend is modeling everything that we are building so I'm going to attach a screen shot from it. This isnt the most recent design but I want this thread to track some of the progression. Its redesigned now to swing out, and have a second door on the inside.

LL
post #78 of 605
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This isnt directly related to the theater but we also changed the model to update a new bar style. The original design, show first, was going to incorporate an existing tv I have. But its just too big so we redesigned it to get a couple flat screens.

LL

new design
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post #79 of 605
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Heres some updated blue prints for the theater. Im still debating how to handle my second row of seating. we updated everything to make sure dimensions were exact now that new walls are up and the type of sound proofing is determined.

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post #80 of 605
Looking good!
post #81 of 605
Ever consider a counter top with bar stools as your back row? We absolutely love having that in our theater

post #82 of 605
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Do you have one row and a bar or two? I'm definitely considering this. I think I'm going to buy Romans chairs first for the front row, them see how depleted my account is from the build. I'm also looking at the Logan matinee chairs because I have the room for then an they look nicer than standard movie seats
post #83 of 605
One row of Romans Lagoons with the bar behind it. Our everyday need is only 3 seats though
post #84 of 605
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Sounds good man. Ive been considering doing that with the fusions. Though I live in New Jersey so id proably go and try them out first.

Ive been in Colorado all week so no updates this week. But I did get to hit the slopes during the storm!
post #85 of 605
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My own thread probably is the place to post this question but has anyone run into problems with permits? Im assuming a lot of common things in build threads with outlet placement and hiding them and switches isnt code. Im going to be pulling permits soon because of hvac system that is being put in and I wanted to know if people normally build it to code and get it inspected then modify or just leave things?
post #86 of 605
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Figured id update this for my own historical record. Spend a great deal of time cleaning the basement. Avoiding killing myself 124423 times stepping over crap and dealing with high hats hanging from the ceiling. It was nice having a clear working area.

My dad took out all the old screws from everywhere. If you look back I demoed my basement for this build so there was thousands of remaining screws everywhere.

I spent the most amount of time fixing problems created by my ****** hvac contractor. All the lines for my mini split systems were just randomly everywhere and not strapped, same with wires. So I put all the required brackets everywhere and fixed all the wires with clips and staples to code as well.

I finished the new soffit for the basement. Heres my first "what I would do different next time", buy GOOD lumber. The 2x4s I got from home depot and lowes were twisted as hell. Right now I have truck straps on my soffits to bend them into place. This is the soffit for all my power lines and plumbing in the basement, not the theater.

Finally did some work in the theater too, now that all the walls are done I moved onto electric. I did electric by removing all electric from the room. Sounds counter intuitive but I want to create my sound proof bunker first so I took the four existing high hats down and removed the switch. I then killed all the outlets so I can remove them. Im going to run all my electric inside the room instead of in the walls. Between my soffits and the false screen wall you can see them anyway.
post #87 of 605
The Redskins lost today:mad: So you will need to rename your HT Theater to RG-Knee...
post #88 of 605
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Originally Posted by HT_SoulMan View Post

The Redskins lost today:mad: So you will need to rename your HT Theater to RG-Knee...
LOL.... That's bad! :P

(p.s. another Redskins fan here)
post #89 of 605
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Ill wait until tomorrow I think to post how I feel...lol. Oh well great year. Took my frustrations out on the theater, went down after the game and did some demo. Took out the old r13 from the ceiling that ill use in the walls. And removed the old duct work that heated the first floor. Also took out some more electric
post #90 of 605
I don't have any demo left so I plan to stay away from my theater Saturday night (going to do all my work before the game), I don't see us beating Peyton and the Broncos. Oh and sorry about RG's knee. I think it was Ngata that rolled him up in our game (hopefully it will heal and at least you have the makings of a good offense now). It was hard watching in the fourth quarter when his knee gave out. Give me the willies. eek.gif
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