LG Official Announces 55" OLED for CES- - Page 20

Originally Posted by Marcus®

High-end LED is garbage because LCD is garbage. Grandpa tech plasma can kick rocks. OLED/OEL is the future: Back to the Future Part II's future. Pixels shutting off to create black!
Who doesn't want to watch The Godfather Trilogy on display tech such as this?or those high contrast photographed Oliver Stone movies?I'm talking to you The Doors (1991)!

Originally Posted by greenland

It is becoming more and more evident that the LG OLED is going to have enough of a wow factor to attract the deep pockets, got to have one now, class.

Originally Posted by rogo

I don't think that was ever in doubt -- at least not for me.

What's in doubt is whether it has enough to attract anyone else. And the evidence there is lacking.

Originally Posted by RadTech51

True, OLED isn't going anywhere its here to stay and the price will drop. I'll be jumping in when the sizes start to grow beyond 70'' and the 4k resolution ones arrive.

PS: One thing to consider, if all OLED displays are about the same now picture wise because of the way the technology works, what is the incentive for buying one over the other? Just pick your favorite brand or design?

Originally Posted by greenland

I doubt if all brands will look almost the same "picture wise". Some brands will do a better job of coding the processing software than others will, just as is the case with Plasma and LCD models now, and of course we see LG going the WOLED route, as opposed to Samsung's RGB OLED design, right out of the starting gate.

Originally Posted by specuvestor

^^ I won't be surprised if OLED didn't win the shootout later this year. They would probably get the best black level and contrast score though

Originally Posted by specuvestor

Think Elite

If you've been following this thread and the OLED thread you would know our reservations. There are 5 factors in the shootout (alas thinness is not one of them) and I've already stated 2 that it would probably top so you can infer from there. But consider that this is a 1st gen OLED, top 3 would be satisfactory.

Originally Posted by brody76

But the contrast, colors, blacks are simply amazing.
I've never seen anything like it.

The pixels are totally off, meaning we get 0 ftl.

Originally Posted by Heinz68

What are you trying to say is that the 2 top placed Plasma TVs are going to win again.

I hope against hope that changes with the release models, but I am not especially optimistic that reference color is coming in the 2012 OLEDs.

Originally Posted by rogo

The "pixels off" thing has been achieved with some LCDs. And the results have not been especially good with that technique.

Originally Posted by rogo

The "pixels off" thing has been achieved with some LCDs. And the results have not been especially good with that technique.

As for OLED color, not one OLED has shown great color yet. The Samsung and LG shown and CES included.

I hope against hope that changes with the release models, but I am not especially optimistic that reference color is coming in the 2012 OLEDs.

World-beating contrast? I'm certain we'll see that.

Originally Posted by brody76

If you've used an AMOLED or PS Vita already, you know that OLED is amazing and stunning. You don't need to go CES or read someone else opinion.

The only "cons" I've noticed at the moment, is the blueish tint the screen has. It has a cold image rather than a warm plasma image.

But the contrast, colors, blacks are simply amazing.
I've never seen anything like it.

With some improvements in color temperature and a top notch calibration, I'm pretty sure an OLED TV can beat anything out there.
No doubt about this.

Originally Posted by brody76

The colors are not "washed" and natural like a plasma, but they're vibrant and vivid. Also I'd like to point out that color is a matter of taste.

The Samsung LCD's with flashy colors have sold extremely well on the market.

I'm not 100% sure AMOLED is identical to OLED TV's that will be sold on the market, but I can indeed confirm that the colors are really nice and pop out.

Originally Posted by ALMA

Of course OLED beats all Plasmas and LCD´s in color reproduction. The LG 15EL9500 does it and the Sony TriMaster also. You can´t calibrate a mobile phone with AMOLED-Display...

If a Panasonic Plasma wins a shootout against an OLED screen, then the author is biased! The German magazine "HDPlusTV" tested the VX300 Plasma against the TriMaster OLED Monitor from Sony. In all aspects, the Sony wins. But the most fascinating was the color reproduction of the OLED screen!

Originally Posted by rogo

The "pixels off" thing has been achieved with some LCDs. And the results have not been especially good with that technique.

As for OLED color, not one OLED has shown great color yet. The Samsung and LG shown and CES included.

I hope against hope that changes with the release models, but I am not especially optimistic that reference color is coming in the 2012 OLEDs.

World-beating contrast? I'm certain we'll see that.

Originally Posted by specuvestor

^^ I won't be surprised if OLED didn't win the shootout later this year. They would probably get the best black level and contrast score though

Originally Posted by Marcus®

LCD's garbage. Saying the technique was ineffective for an ineffective display tech isn't a strike against the technique.

Originally Posted by RadTech51

I tend to agree, color accuracy is still in question though so well just have to wait and see.

Originally Posted by brody76

If you've used an AMOLED or PS Vita already, you know that OLED is amazing and stunning. You don't need to go CES or read someone else opinion.

The only "cons" I've noticed at the moment, is the blueish tint the screen has. It has a cold image rather than a warm plasma image.

But the contrast, colors, blacks are simply amazing.
I've never seen anything like it.

The pixels are totally off, meaning we get 0 ftl.

I do agree with some higher comments that LCD/OLED is crap.

After so many years on the market, this is what we get ... the results are mediocre. This is a true leap forward, the real first TV that will surpass the Kuro.

With some improvements in color temperature and a top notch calibration, I'm pretty sure an OLED TV can beat anything out there.
No doubt about this.

Originally Posted by ferro

If reviews of LG's 15EL9500 (similar OLED technology) are anything to go by, we'll be fine. But you're right, we'll have to wait...

Originally Posted by rogo


The bottom line is that a well-built OLED TV is going to offer the most intrascene contrast anyone can hope for and could well exceed the performance of a Sharp Elite (don't bother talking up the Kuro, the ABL circuitry limits its maximum brightness to a level below the maximum some of us would like on certain material... sorry) or a Sony HX929 or equivalent. But we are talking about a small margin of usability in that regard.

It's definitely true that a well-designed and executed OLED has the potential to be superior to the best display we've ever seen and it's absolutely the case that videophiles are excited by that prospect. It's similarly true that 5-7 years from now, when OLEDs are inexpensive, it will potentially "democratize" videophile-level picture quality the same way $80 BluRay players and inexpensive HDTVs have given everyone a chance to enjoy beautiful movies at home. But in the short run, the amount of "room" the technology has to exceed the best currently being offered is actually remarkably small. And some of that is quite literally due to how close existing TVs are to the limits of what humans can see.

Originally Posted by specuvestor

Your 2 posts actually shows why you need to "read someone else's opinion". VE shootout is concern with color tracking the native source according to REC709, not Samsung's dynamic color nor "taste".

It shows we are talking different platforms here

And OLED TV is AMOLED


A professional monitor is by definition, well a display that tracks colors accurately. But we're talking about mass market TV here. $9k may not be mass market price now but suffice to say Sammy and LG are certainly not looking to sell few thousand professional OLED monitors next 3 years.

And Sony's AMOLED implementation is a bit different from the Koreans.

Originally Posted by RadTech51

You mentioned a blueish tent to the screen? I think I might have noticed this also when viewing a closeup video on the screen I saw this morning. Of course it might have been the flood of ambient lighting causing it so I'll reserve judgment until I see it in person. Also the black bars on the bottom of the screen looked as if some light was coming through from the picture above it but again I'm going to hold off any of my observations until I see this puppy in person.

This LG also boasts a 120-percent NTSC color gamut. What it means is the 55EM9600 can faithfully reproduce all the hues of broadcasts and movies, just as the director intended.

Originally Posted by brody76

Also I'd like to point out that color is a matter of taste.

Originally Posted by rogo

Accurate color is not a matter of taste. Color is or is not accurate.