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post #1051 of 1268
I wonder what an electrical outlet in a column looks like. Maybe someone will post a picture of one so I can see it... smile.gif

It sounds like you're doing the good work - keep it up!
post #1052 of 1268
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Ah man, I forgot to take a picture of the column outlets for everyone! If needed I can sketch a picture of one.

Here are a couple of pictures of the first frame being constructed. I was pretty excited about it until I realized that I would not be able to finish it that day. So I was left with a couple of plywood strips screwed and glued together which are not very cool.

Laying out the long pieces and trying to keep things square.



A few pocket holes, some glue, and a couple of screws and we have one end complete.



I added in a middle section for bracing so it won't give when I start stretching fabric over it.



One of two almost completed frames. Going to route two of the four edges with a 45 bit. Then a little bit of sanding and it will be ready for fabric and hanging on the wall.



So not my best pics that I have ever posted but pics none the less. I wish I could find more time to work in the basement but it is just not in the cards right now. One day I will have some picture worthy progress but until then these turds will have to do. biggrin.gif
post #1053 of 1268
We love picturds!
post #1054 of 1268
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We love picturds!

Yes we do!

Regards,

RTROSE
post #1055 of 1268
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Man it has been a long time since my last minor update. Time to follow that up with another minor update!

I actually had some quality time to spend in the basement on Saturday so I spent it... installing base molding and door trim for my workout room. smile.gif I did do one thing theater related and that was prep and paint (two coats) the vent covers that will be installed on the underneath side of the soffits. I'll try and snap a pick this evening if I get a chance.

Already setting aside time this next weekend to work in the theater. Going to see if I can't get a couple of panels wrapped and installed. Also want to build some speaker stands for my LCRs and try and get everything that goes behind the screen wrapped up.

Theater progress is going to be extra slow as I make a push, with the little time I have, to get the rest of the basement finished. I have given myself until February of next year to have the rest of the basement, excluding the theater, complete. I feel confident that I can have it complete by then as I am past drywall finishing. Finish a bathroom, a lot of trim, a lot of painting, and have someone install carpet and I am done. biggrin.gif Sounds easy enough...
post #1056 of 1268
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We love picturds!

Yes we do!

Regards,

RTROSE

I think I did something wrong. I tried to click on his picture to see and I got this: wink.gif



hmmmm.....


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post #1057 of 1268
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Here is a shot of the vent covers painted and ready to be installed.



I still have about 8 smaller vent covers to do that will go in the rear portion of the riser.
post #1058 of 1268
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Been thinking about my wall panels today and how I am going to do the MDF wood trim pieces between panels. For those who don't want to look back and find it, here is an elevation view of one of the side walls for my theater.



Sections are from top to bottom:
Black Soffit
Gray Horizontal Fabric Panel
Black MDF Trim Piece
Green Horizontal Fabric Panel
Black MDF Trim Piece
Gray Horizontal Fabric Panel
Black MDF Baseboard Trim

Here is a section cut through one of the MDF pieces between two fabric panels. The three squares behind the pieces represent the offset blocking I have already installed everywhere.



The view on the left is 3/4" fabric panel with 1/4" chamfer, 1/2" MDF trim, 3/4" fabric panel with 1/4" chamfer. The view on the right is 3/4" fabric panel with 1/2" chamfer, 3/4" MDF trim with 1/2" chamfer top and bottom, 3/4" fabric panel with 1/2" chamfer.

I could also do a mix of the two as well by chamferring the 3/4" fabric panels 1/2" and the MDF a 1/4" top and bottom. Right now I am leaning towards the option on the left because of the change in depth which I think adds more to the design. Also kinda like the mix idea as a close second. Would be interested to see what others think.
post #1059 of 1268
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Originally Posted by HopefulFred View Post

I wonder what an electrical outlet in a column looks like. Maybe someone will post a picture of one so I can see it... smile.gif

It sounds like you're doing the good work - keep it up!

I don't have any close-ups at the moment, but I put outlets in my columns (First is before its in) Others you can see the black outlets on the side near the bottom. You can't see any of them walking into the room, they are all on the side of the columns facing away from view (Other than the two rear which face inward but you can't see due to chairs)





post #1060 of 1268
Wow lots of vents!! My single vent/return definitely does not cut it. Overdoing it is an excellent choice! smile.gif

And it is finally panel time! Been waiting to see your panels for a while, you are going with different colors than most people so it will be a great new combo to see!
post #1061 of 1268
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The view on the left is 3/4" fabric panel with 1/4" chamfer, 1/2" MDF trim, 3/4" fabric panel with 1/4" chamfer. The view on the right is 3/4" fabric panel with 1/2" chamfer, 3/4" MDF trim with 1/2" chamfer top and bottom, 3/4" fabric panel with 1/2" chamfer.

I could also do a mix of the two as well by chamferring the 3/4" fabric panels 1/2" and the MDF a 1/4" top and bottom. Right now I am leaning towards the option on the left because of the change in depth which I think adds more to the design. Also kinda like the mix idea as a close second. Would be interested to see what others think.

I think either one would look nice, but my preference would lie with the one on the right. It's a bit more work but think it could also add a bit more interest and dimension to the overall look. Just my 2 cents, of course!
post #1062 of 1268
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Wow lots of vents!! My single vent/return definitely does not cut it. Overdoing it is an excellent choice! smile.gif

And it is finally panel time! Been waiting to see your panels for a while, you are going with different colors than most people so it will be a great new combo to see!

Yes, two vents that are tied to the HVAC system in and out along with two vents that will be in/out dead vents.

The panels will unfortunately be a really long process as I am splitting what little time I have now between working on the theater and trying to finish the rest of the basement. I hope to have one section, top to bottom, complete here in the next couple of weeks so that I can get an idea of how it is going to look. So stay tuned... quality pictures to come! biggrin.gif
post #1063 of 1268
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I think either one would look nice, but my preference would lie with the one on the right. It's a bit more work but think it could also add a bit more interest and dimension to the overall look. Just my 2 cents, of course!

Here is another option that I added (far right). It is a mix between the two on the left.



I do like the added detail to the MDF piece and it still gives me the difference in depth on the wall.
post #1064 of 1268
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Here is another option that I added (far right). It is a mix between the two on the left.

I do like the added detail to the MDF piece and it still gives me the difference in depth on the wall.

I'm using the "Shape" you have in general, though my frames have a direct 45 degree bevel (As shown in your pictures) while my MDF trim has a rounded bevel. My trim is not as thick as the frames. So it would be closest to the pic you have at the very right.

I'll try to take a closeup of it later tonight if I remember, which would sort of show the side relief angle for you. Still, having it slightly recessed in looks just fine IMO.
post #1065 of 1268
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Originally Posted by damelon View Post

I'm using the "Shape" you have in general, though my frames have a direct 45 degree bevel (As shown in your pictures) while my MDF trim has a rounded bevel. My trim is not as thick as the frames. So it would be closest to the pic you have at the very right.

I'll try to take a closeup of it later tonight if I remember, which would sort of show the side relief angle for you. Still, having it slightly recessed in looks just fine IMO.

Thanks Damelon. That would be great if you could post a pic of your wall. I was going back through your build but couldn't find a close-up of the trim with the panels.
post #1066 of 1268
Hmmmm....I think my preference would still be with the one in the middle, simply for the symmetry of the bevel. I know you gain a difference in height between the two materials with the far right drawing, but will that be as noticeable in comparison with the difference in the bevel? I'm not sure.
post #1067 of 1268
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So does anyone have any suggestions for cutting 2" thick 3lb acoustic cotton? A box knife just shreds it into little pieces. The only way I have found so far to get a good cut is to score it with the knife and then cut it using scissors. It gives a nice clean cut but is very labor intensive. I have heard of using an electric carving knife and a table saw but I am a little leery of trying those. Thoughts??
post #1068 of 1268
Haven't tried the electric carving knife with acoustic cotton, but it works great on OC703 and 3 lb mineral wool, so if the acoustic cotton is similar consistency to mineral wool, seems like it would work.
post #1069 of 1268
+1 for the electric carving knife.
post #1070 of 1268
Go to Bed Bath and Beyond and use their 20% off coupon on their $12 electric knife. Well worth it.
post #1071 of 1268
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Everybody agrees so that is what I will try. And I just got a BB&B coupon in the mail this week. biggrin.gif
post #1072 of 1268
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Got one full day to work this past weekend. Not all the time was spent working on the theater but I did get in there and get a few things done.

Started the day assembling one more wall panel frame. Then it was out to the garage to route the three panels I had completed. Result...



Then they got a paint job.



While the panels were drying I installed the vent covers on the underside of the soffit. Four in total. Need to touch up the screw heads. Painting these went so much smoother than my attempts with the can light trim.





Then it was time for a little color in the theater.







Panels will be held to the wall using velcro. This panel gets six pieces. Velcro held surprisingly well. I thought I was going to have to add a finishing nail or two to help hold it but they were not needed, at least for this size panel.



2" 3lb acoustic cotton installed in the cavity on the wall.





And drum roll please.......PANEL NUMBER 1!!!!! No flash.



With flash.



And now with some lights.



I should get faster at making these panels but these first two panels took a good bit of time. At this pace I should be done some time in 2015 with panels. rolleyes.gif Cutting the cotton also took too much time but that should get better too once I have a better tool. I am using this one section of wall to show how it transforms as I add the various panels. Here it is with the first panel.



Now with the second panel.



This is as far as I have gotten with wall panels. I have the top panel cut and painted and ready for fabric but that will have to wait until I have a second set of hands to help with the fabric roll. I am going to try and figure out my MDF strips soon so that I can get that material purchased and cut to fit. Leaning towards the 1/2" material but we'll see. I think I might have some scraps of each lying around that I can put up as samples to compare. Keep an eye out for opinion requests. smile.gif
post #1073 of 1268
Looking good!
post #1074 of 1268
^^^^ yeah, what he said smile.gif
post #1075 of 1268

vanice,

 

the panels are looking great.  I was just working on mine this weekend.  Yes, it does get easier/faster.  I almost got too fast with the stapler and had to watch my fingers eek.gif.

post #1076 of 1268
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Thanks everyone. I just wish I had more time to work on them. Eventually I will get this one section done so we can all see what it is going to look like. Should be kinda cool as each piece of the puzzle gradually gets added.

After just three panels my router blade was smoking. Wonder how many blades I am going to have to buy to route all this ply and MDF... rolleyes.gif
post #1077 of 1268
How much power are you giving the 4 IB subs? How low/loud will they go?
post #1078 of 1268
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Originally Posted by vanice View Post

Thanks Damelon. That would be great if you could post a pic of your wall. I was going back through your build but couldn't find a close-up of the trim with the panels.

Don't thank me until I do it... as you can see, I still haven't gotten around to it... will try to remember tonight.
post #1079 of 1268
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How much power are you giving the 4 IB subs? How low/loud will they go?

I am using the Behringer EP4000 for power. Somebody else on here with a similar setup figured that each sub was seeing about 325 watts give or take. Doesn't seem like a lot but when the box isn't acting on the sub and it is free to move as needed the power requirements go way down. This also helps protect the speakers as you will hit the limits of the amp before the speaker.

I don't really know how loud these will go. I don't have any tools yet for measuring. There are a couple of other IB builds on here that are complete. They may be able to help you out with that last question. Or you can keep following along until sometime next year when I get everything in my room complete and I am ready to do some sound work. wink.gif
post #1080 of 1268
Vanice,

Nice to see you re-engaging the HT build. Looking Good !!
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