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post #1231 of 1268
Vanice,

Your boxes and frames are looking real good !! Did you use a Kreg jig on these?
(I have this jig , but am waiting to put it to use)
post #1232 of 1268
Thread Starter 
Thanks cuzed. Yes, used the Kreg jig on the outer frame in the corners. I did not use it for the backer box. That I used typical screws to attach the 2x3s together.
post #1233 of 1268
Thread Starter 
Poster Frame Update:

So not much time to work this past weekend but I am getting closer to having a finished product. Started my work by sanding the corners where I had touched them up with some wood filler. May need to hit them again as they came out a little rough. The good thing is not much of the area will be visible as it will get covered by the Spotlight frame and the molding around the outside. Speaking of the molding, I got that added to the frames. It is a basic profile that I found at my local big box store but I think it adds some good detail to the frame. Here is a look at one of the corners trying to show the molding profile.



And a shot of both frames with molding added but still in need of some wood filler.



So after getting this far I decided I should probably check and see if the Spotlight frame actually fits these as I had intended them to. They fit!! One of the frames sitting on the backer box frame.



I think these things will look pretty nice once I get them painted black. Spent the rest of my available time putting two coats of paint on the wall these will go on so that part is ready to go once the frames are. I also got my connectors and I think these things are going to work well and make the connections between strips a breeze. More details on that to come.

Question for those who have made similar frames. I noticed when I put the Spotlight frame on my frame that the silver portion (that makes up the structure part) of the Spotlight frame can be seen from the side. Did you guys do anything to cover this (paint, tape, etc.) or leave it as is? Until I get my frame painted black I won't know just how annoying that silver showing will be. Thoughts??
post #1234 of 1268
Looking great vanice! Regarding your prior post - sorry it took me so long to respond here. I do have a few changes to my frames this time around, but I don't think they're changes that you would really want to implement in your design. The only thing I really would change is that I made the frames too heavy. And now that they're on the wall, that doesn't really matter.

I ordered these lights and am going to do a marquee style this time. I'm also going to try to skip the white posterboard inside...I think I'm going to try either 1. spray adhesive and aluminum foil, or 2. just use high gloss white paint. Otherwise they'll be pretty similar.

I like the way yours are coming along...looking forward to the finished product!
post #1235 of 1268
Just one question though - does the bear actually talk to the troopers?




Sorry I couldn't help it! Had to! biggrin.gif
post #1236 of 1268
Looking awesome mate, loving the regular updates.
post #1237 of 1268
Thread Starter 
Thanks kopkiwi. Doing my best to keep this updated on my slow as molasses progress.

AB - Looking forward to seeing the marquee frame. That is going to be sweet. Do a good job documenting so that I can "borrow" the idea when I decide to do version 2.0 of my frames.

If I had a talking bear I would be in the "throw money at this room and have it done in two weeks with all the bells and whistles" forum. Besides, I don't need a talking bear for inspiration. I just pillage AVS for all the ideas I need. tongue.gif
post #1238 of 1268

I've just spent the last 2 hours reading through this entire thread and I think it is absolutely inspiring. I hope that someday I'm able to start a project like this and get somewhere near the results you've obtained. Keep up the good work!

post #1239 of 1268
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Originally Posted by Nanaea View Post

I've just spent the last 2 hours reading through this entire thread and I think it is absolutely inspiring. I hope that someday I'm able to start a project like this and get somewhere near the results you've obtained. Keep up the good work!

Thanks nanaea! I appreciate the kind words. Good luck on the future theater room. It's definitely an adventure, one that I hope to complete sooner rather than later. rolleyes.gif
post #1240 of 1268
Thread Starter 
Update coming on lighted poster frames. Just need to find time to post it. I have one complete while the other still needs the internals. Really happy with my results so far...
post #1241 of 1268
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Originally Posted by vanice View Post

Update coming on lighted poster frames. Just need to find time to post it. I have one complete while the other still needs the internals. Really happy with my results so far...

Awesome. Look forward to the pictures.
post #1242 of 1268
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Ok, finally going to take a few minutes to post some pictures of my poster frame build. My last update left me with two complete frames that were ready for fill/sanding and paint so that is where this update begins. First step was to fill nail holes and any cracks that were present. That is boring so no pictures of that. Then it was time for paint. My entrance to the theater will be black so since these reside on either side of the entrance I decided to paint them black as well. The spotlight frames I have are black too so they should blend in nicely. So on with two coats of SW Tricorn Black in satin...

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You may notice the screws showing in the frame. No worries as these will be covered by the spotlight frame soon.

Now that the frames are done I turned my attention to the internals. If you have been following along you'll remember that I am using some splice connectors to tie all my LED strips to the power supply vs. soldering everything. So I started work on my wiring harness as I would call it. Probably about 45 minutes of work to complete.

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Time to install the LED strips in the frame. My LED strips are spaced on 1.5" centers and there are 17 strips per frame.

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Bonehead mistake number one: I didn't align the +/- on the strips with the +/- on the wiring harness so I had some connectors backwards which don't install properly. I had to switch around about half of the connectors on my wiring harness to match the strips. This added about 45 minutes to my work for the day and led to some sore fingers.

I then installed the wiring harness in the frame.

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Next it was time to mate the spotlight frame to my frame. As I had mentioned previously, I wasn't too keen on having the aluminum portion of the spotlight frame showing around the perimeter once it was installed on the backer frame. I decided to try wrapping the aluminum portion of the frame that I could see with electrical tape. It worked out well, I just hope it stays in place.

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And now the spotlight frame mounted to the frame I built.

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This shows the spotlight frame and the wiring harness.

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Now it was the moment of truth. Time to mount the frame in it's new home. Here is where it is going. The frame is actually upside down in this shot. The wiring will be at the top.

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The main power source will be in my HVAC closet so I have to run power from there to this cutout. I used some blue smurf tube to make the run. Here it is poking through the top of the cutout.

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And finally, the frame in it's new home! It fit like a glove. Attached to the framing using (2) 2 1/2" screws top and bottom.

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Let there be light! Not sure why two of the strips have 3 LEDs not working but it doesn't show through on the final product. At some point I will fix these by splicing in some new ones but for now you don't notice them.

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And with a poster. I have not put in the white acrylic backer in this shot. The two pieces (front and back of the poster) in use are from the spotlight frame and I have not removed the protective film from them yet.

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In this shot you can see the whole entrance and the location for poster number two which is not complete yet. You can also see where the blue smurf tube goes to. I will have an outlet below the other poster frame with an Insteon inline-linc to control them.

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My power supply (8A).

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So I still need to get the white acrylic sheet put in (which I have now, just been busy) and remove the protective film from the spotlight frame sheets and this poster will be complete. I hope to get around to finishing the other one next week so that I can cross this project off my to-do list. I will also post up some final pics at that point.
post #1243 of 1268
Vanice - great work! These came together very nicely. The wall cutout is giving me some ideas as well - thanks!
post #1244 of 1268
Vanice,
They turned out great - you make me proud !! smile.gif
After the 2nd one comes on-line - please report back on the PS (heat factor)
post #1245 of 1268
Very nice Job i like them alot will probably follow your design when i do mine Great job!!
post #1246 of 1268
Thread Starter 
Glad you guys seem to like them as much as I do.

Cuzed - Not sure if I specified this before or not but I have one power supply for each frame so I'm hoping that heat will not be an issue. I haven't run this one for very long to test it. It will get a full couple of hour demo this Saturday as we are having people over. I will let you know how it does.
post #1247 of 1268
Great work Vanice! And thank you for the detailed construction post!!
post #1248 of 1268
It's taken me 3 evenings to get through your build thread, and have to say congrats you've done an amazing job so far. I'm building a dedicated theatre soon, built one in our home in the UK in 2008 and had a build thread going on AV forums which was well received. We are now moving to Colorado which means our home allows for a bigger theatre space...I will be using some ideas from a a few of the amazing builds on here. Well done smile.gif
post #1249 of 1268
Thread Starter 
I appreciate the kind words Yukichon. This forum is definitely a wealth of information. I can't even count how many builds on here that I "borrowed" ideas from. Good luck on your future build and make sure to post lots of pictures throughout the process. I always enjoy seeing how someone accomplishes a task.
post #1250 of 1268
I will be starting a build thread in due course. Originally was going to get the contractors to do most of the build, but first few months I will have plenty of time and these builds have reset my appetite for the whole process. My DIY skills aren't the best but I'm sure with the right Q&A's on here I will manage. Only problem is I'm not shipping my tools over from the UK, good thing means I get a permit from the wife to go all out in Lowes or HD and get me lots of new man tools!
post #1251 of 1268
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The right tools make the job so much easier and an excuse to add to your tool collection is never a bad thing. Happy shopping! smile.gif
post #1252 of 1268
Vanice,
Not sure if I missed it as I was catching up on a lot of posts at once this weekend, but did you ever solve the hum problem? I once ran into a similar issue with the rca cables coming from the AVR to the amp and installed ground loop isolators on the rca cables to address the issue.
post #1253 of 1268
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Originally Posted by Skip-B View Post

Vanice,
Not sure if I missed it as I was catching up on a lot of posts at once this weekend, but did you ever solve the hum problem? I once ran into a similar issue with the rca cables coming from the AVR to the amp and installed ground loop isolators on the rca cables to address the issue.

I have not solved my hum problem and kinda put it on the back burner for the time being as other things needed my attention. I did find that the lights changed the hum volume depending on how much they were dimmed. The lights are not on the same circuit but I do have a light controller on that circuit. I still need to disconnect everything and start from scratch just to make sure. I will keep your idea in mind when I get some free time to mess with it. I haven't watched a movie in weeks so it hasn't been a high priority.
post #1254 of 1268
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I haven't watched a movie in weeks...

Blasphemy!!! biggrin.gif

It's funny how time flies. I hope all is well with you and your family. I believe your little one is coming up on a year old, right?
post #1255 of 1268
Thread Starter 
Thanks TMcG. Everything is going pretty well (other than theater progress rolleyes.gif). The little guy just celebrated his first birthday last week. Crazy to think I am the parent of a 1 year old now. These last few months have flown by. You have a first birthday coming up too right? Best wishes on a happy and healthy second year. smile.gif
post #1256 of 1268
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Finally checked something off the old to-do list this weekend. The lighted poster frames are complete and wired up. For control of the frames I am using an Insteon inline linc connected to a new outlet in my HVAC closet that the frame's power supplies are plugged into. The inline linc is controlled by a keypad linc as you enter the basement. Here are a couple of shots behind the wall where the new outlet is (which happens to be just behind and below the poster on the right hand side looking at the theater entrance).

The blue smurf tube is the wiring coming from the poster on the left side of the door and the brown on the left is the backside of the right poster frame. You can also see the wiring popping out from the upper corner.



Here you can see the new outlet with each power supply plugged into it. Each poster has it's own 8A power supply. They do get warm if run for several hours but I don't think they are anywhere near meltdown stage. The Insteon inline linc is in an electrical box just above this outlet, sorry it didn't make it into the pic.



And now the money shot....



No issues with the LED strips this time. All powered right up.





Glad to have these off my list and I am very happy with the way they turned out. Now if I could only make fabric frames disappear off my list as quickly. rolleyes.gif
post #1257 of 1268
Posters are looking good!
post #1258 of 1268
Great work on the frames vanice - they look awesome!!
post #1259 of 1268
Thread Starter 
Thanks guys for the compliments. They should look even better once I get the door trim up and painted black (along with the door).
post #1260 of 1268
Vanice,

Well Done - nice conclusion on the poster-boxes!
The Insteon control is a nice twist.
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