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post #931 of 1103
1/29/13 at 7:23am
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Hey cuzed! Thanks! I will be happy once the columns are finally all wrapped and I can start putting in some of the panels on the walls. It's really going to start changing then.

Yes, unfortunately turning up the bass rattles windows, dishes, and the floor in our living room/kitchen which is above the theater/IB chamber. I don't have another sub in the house that can compare output wise but I almost bet that if I had a typical sub that sat inside the room and wasn't connnected to the walls that my soundproofing would work a lot better than it currently does with bass. I know that I will not be able to eliminate all bass leaving the room but I do think that I can eliminate some of the vibration transferring through the floor by removing the connection of the subs with the theater wall. I know my first pic didn't have a lot of detail as it was a brainstorm sketch but here is another sketch showing the transformation of the array wall as it sits today to what it would look like with the new baffles.


Basically I would cut out a large opening that would allow me access for getting the new baffles into the room. Then I would close up the larger opening by adding (2) pieces of 3/4" MDF (or a layer of 3/4" OSB w/ 5/8" layer of drywall and GG between, whichever would be best) to the existing array wall (making it 5 layers thick eek.gif) with cutouts (oversized by a 1/4" all around to allow me to caulk the gap, keeping the subs isolated from the old array wall) for the new baffle boxes.

This would definitely be an undertaking but I think it would allow me to get more out of the IB than I can currently (well, with the WAF anyway tongue.gif). For those with IB experience, is there a difference in performance between a line array and a baffle array? Any change in the sound, volumn, thump to the chest, or ability to pressurize the room?

The guys at the cult could probably answer. I still don't have any IB experience but it's on my to do list. From what I've read the line array is preferred but only from a theoretical perspective. I think by the time you have room gain/null issues, tuning, dsp, ect that the line array versus baffle is a moot point. That is at least my understanding.

Setting that aside, the line array looks cooler for sure.
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post #932 of 1103
1/29/13 at 8:35am
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I do need to make a post over there if I can find a second to do so. I definitely like the looks of my setup better but the vibration I am getting throughout the first floor of the house is a problem. I need to take some time one day to try out some torture bass scenes and see how hard I can push it (I still haven't maxed out the thing). Then check the resulting vibration upstairs. That would give me my ceiling for how bad it can be. Not looking forward to a lot of demo/rebuilding but I also want to utilize the sub to it's full potential.
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post #933 of 1103
1/29/13 at 9:31am
Vanice,
the LED back-lighting on your columns is flip'in AWESOME - I'm jealous!!
My only concern or question is >> please monitor, and play close attention to how warm the LED power supplies run?

Nice Work!!
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post #934 of 1103
1/29/13 at 10:37am
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Originally Posted by cuzed2 View Post

Vanice,
the LED back-lighting on your columns is flip'in AWESOME - I'm jealous!!
My only concern or question is >> please monitor, and play close attention to how warm the LED power supplies run?

Nice Work!!

Thanks cuzed! They look even better in person. Just have to get out the Pledge and do a little cleaning on the columns now. rolleyes.gif

I appreciate the heads up on the power supplies. I think they should be ok. They are in an open area and will only see about 27' of LED lights (less than two strands). The room is split down the middle so I have a power supply for each side of the room. It will be the same way with the soffit LEDs. I will have two power supplies to power the soffits after following the Cinemar thread and seeing that his lights started to dim after trying to power all of them off one supply. I need to have them on for an extended amount of time to see how it heats up. Of course right now I only have one column being powered. Need to get two more columns wired up so I can do the true test.
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post #935 of 1103
1/29/13 at 4:57pm
Wow! Those columns look fantastic! Very nicely done. I wish I had some knowledge in the IB area so I could provide some guidance, but alas, I am very uneducated in that arena.

Regards,

RTROSE
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post #936 of 1103
1/30/13 at 5:53am
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Thanks RT! I think they are going to work out like I had envisioned them in my head. I have posted over at the cult. I hope I get some kind of response. Last time I posted there feedback was pretty limited.
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post #937 of 1103
1/30/13 at 5:55am
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Finished another column's LEDs last night. Sorry, no pics yet. When I finish the last column on this run I will post some full room pics.
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post #938 of 1103
2/4/13 at 5:45am
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Not a ton of progress this weekend. I did get one more column wrapped and installed. That leaves one more rear column to wrap and install and then it's on to wall panels! Now that I have the front right column in I can start running the LEDs for the right side of the room as well. That will be my project to work on during the week. Still have one more to finish on the left side and then it's on to the right. Should have some updated room pics by Thursday or Friday. smile.gif

I also spent some time in the attic running an RG6 line (along with a Cat5e line) from my splitter in my master closet down to the theater equipment room. Let's just say I need to work on my termination abilities with RG6. I was able to get the local channels on my cable box in the theater but anything higher than that and it was pixelated or didn't come in at all. Sucks to have to spend $40-$50 bucks to get a cheap kit to do compression style fittings but I think that will fix my problem. Thought I could get by with the crimp style but yet again I have issues with them. Anybody have any good suggestions for RG6Q compression tools and fittings? Here is what I am looking at: http://www.amazon.com/Valley-Compression-Connector-PPC-EX6XL-Connectors/dp/B003J7YOTO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1359985908&sr=8-1&keywords=rg6+compression+tool
Edited by vanice - 2/4/13 at 5:52am
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post #939 of 1103
2/4/13 at 6:30am
Hey Vanice. Very similar to the compression tool that I have. Been using it for a few years now and it is great. Have done about 50 or so terminations with it between myself and friends. Haven't had a bad one yet.
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post #940 of 1103
2/4/13 at 6:39am
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Thanks for the recommendation GWCR. It seemed like an ok one for the money and I won't be using it a lot so hopefully it would hold up. Sucks to spend money on a tool that I will use once every 10 years but I don't know anybody around me who has a compression style one.
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post #941 of 1103
2/4/13 at 6:51am
Pm me before you buy anything. I think I can help out.


Regards,

RTROSE
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post #942 of 1103
2/4/13 at 6:59am
Vanice - I'd go with Thomas & Betts tools if I were you. I don't have the time right this second, but I'll come back to this around noon and post information and pictures for you on the tools that I have which work extremely well.
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post #943 of 1103
2/4/13 at 7:08am
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Thanks TMcG. I will do some looking for that brand name. I just Pm'd RT to see if he might be able to help me out. With only two connections to make buying expensive stuff is something I am going to try and avoid if I can. I've made about four RG6 terminations in the last 10 years so I wouldn't be getting a lot of use out of a nice set. From this point forward all future TVs will be fed from a central location so I won't have to run RG6 cables for cable boxes to each new TV location. Cat5 is much easier to work with.
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post #944 of 1103
2/4/13 at 7:17am
Since you only have four to do and don't need the tools in the future, going with something cheap is the way to go. I'll still show you what I have, but you are on the right track with the amazon package you show. I believe my tools were around $80, excluding connectors. I found one of my tools on eBay with a quick search selling for $50 used: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Thomas-Betts-IT1000-Snap-N-Seal-Tool-/221184802535?pt=US_Video_Cables_Adapters&hash=item337fa43ee7
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post #945 of 1103
2/4/13 at 2:21pm
I think we have something worked out. I too hate to purchase something if I am only going to use it once or twice. Having said that though I have used that phrase "the right tools certainly make job easier" ploy to purchase more than one tool. I did loose out on a table saw purchase when my BIL offered to lend me his in front of Mrs RTROSE. He later apologized as the realization of what he did hit him. I promised I would "return the favor" at a later date. biggrin.gif

Looking forward to seeing your build.

Regards,

RTROSE
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post #946 of 1103
2/4/13 at 6:10pm
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I'm all for any reason to get new tools but a coax compression tool is not one of them. It doesn't even plug in! tongue.gif

I appreciate you coming by to help me out. Will be great if we can get it working. See ya on Thursday! biggrin.gif
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post #947 of 1103
2/4/13 at 7:39pm
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Pictures!! Finally some updated pics with the fifth column in and the LED lights all the way down the left side of the room.

A comparo between the dark and light pics...



























Three down and three to go. The pictures just don't do the lights justice, especially the dark pictures. A little here and a little there and I might have two more columns done by the weekend.
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post #948 of 1103
2/4/13 at 7:48pm
Those lights are turning out very, very sweet.

How well do they dim?
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post #949 of 1103
2/4/13 at 7:50pm
Those look awesome! Great work! biggrin.gif
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post #950 of 1103
2/4/13 at 9:18pm
Nice work, those look really cool!
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post #951 of 1103
2/5/13 at 4:40am
Excellent! Very well done!
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post #952 of 1103
2/5/13 at 6:51am
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Thanks everybody! I am really pleased with how they are turning out. Can't wait to get the soffit lights in. Those will be the icing on the cake.

farkem - They dim pretty well using the 44 key remote that I got when I bought the controllers. If I get a chance I will take a couple of pics comparing the max and min brightness levels.
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post #953 of 1103
2/5/13 at 7:19am
Nice job, Vanice!
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post #954 of 1103
2/5/13 at 10:44am
Awesome lighting there! And your IB sub is just..... eek.gif

What do you use for remote controlling? Especially the projector?

Btw, you might figured it out already, but in the JVC menu, I think is inside the lens setup, you can turn off/on the green line.
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post #955 of 1103
2/5/13 at 11:45am
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Nice job, Vanice!

Thanks Spaceman! I'm getting a lot faster at my connections now. If everything goes smoothly I can do a complete column in about 45 minutes.

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Originally Posted by landshark1 View Post

Awesome lighting there! And your IB sub is just..... eek.gif

What do you use for remote controlling? Especially the projector?

Btw, you might figured it out already, but in the JVC menu, I think is inside the lens setup, you can turn off/on the green line.

Thanks landshark! I'm loving the lights and can't wait to get the rest in. Yes, the sub is over the top. It's going to be a shame to cover it up with a fabric panel. rolleyes.gif

Right now I am just using all the individual remotes. I will eventually move to Irule but I am still a ways off from getting that set up.

Thanks for the tip. I will have to try that. I went through every menu but I don't remember seeing that option. Guess I need to open my eyes next time. tongue.gif I just picked up the Disney WOW disk and have been trying to find a block of time to run through it. Right now the only settings I have changed were the focus and the aperture.
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post #956 of 1103
2/6/13 at 9:35pm
awesome looking lights Vanice... wow kinda spooky in there for a spooky movie... the wizard of oz will be great in there...

cheers..
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post #957 of 1103
2/7/13 at 5:18am
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Thanks delta. I actually have the Wizard of Oz on bluray that I have been holding on to to watch when the room is complete. It's one of my favorites...
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post #958 of 1103
2/7/13 at 2:15pm
I may have missed it vanice, but where did you buy the led lights from and which ones?
You wouldn't have a link would you? Wicked build! I have the envy!!
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post #959 of 1103
2/7/13 at 6:39pm
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Here is where I got my lights.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/5M-60Leds-M-300Leds-RGB-5050-Waterproof-SMD-LED-Flexible-Lights-Strips-DIY-New-/160744520985?ssPageName=ADME:L:OC:US:3160

This is the controller and remote.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/12V-6A-44Key-IR-Remote-Control-20-Colors-Changing-5050-3528-SMD-RGB-LED-Strip-/160700428179?ssPageName=ADME:L:OC:US:3160

Thanks for the compliments mediogre.
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post #960 of 1103
2/7/13 at 6:56pm
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I would like to thank RTROSE for coming by this evening and helping me out with the coax connections. It was great to finally meet you. Hopefully you enjoyed the demo. You're welcome to come back when the room is complete. Sorry about the flat tire. I felt terrible that you came up to help me and then had to deal with that.
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