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post #31 of 67
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Originally Posted by ohyeah32 View Post

Since US pricing is usually lower than that of the UK, I'd say that "if" LG did release the 84" UHDTV here in the US, a price tag of say $10k wouldn't be over priced for what the TV is. Any more than that and people will veer away.

$10K? You are dreaming. Try closer to $20K.
post #32 of 67
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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart View Post

$10K? You are dreaming. Try closer to $20K.

Yes I know. Realistically it could very well be in the $18K-$20K range if not more. I'm just saying that for it to actually sell moderately well here, pricing it way over $10K will not move many.

Most likely the 84" will not be happening for me, but I'm still hoping that the 72" will. If that one is made available and is priced in the $7,500-$8,000 range, then that is definitely do-able.
post #33 of 67
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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart View Post

$10K? You are dreaming. Try closer to $20K.

At $20k, a person may have to travel to see one, CES included.
post #34 of 67
According info from LG at CES,

"The 84LM9600 is going to be available in July 2012. Price is not yet known, but expected to be about $6k-$8k. The effect is truly amazing and has been compared favorably (as in better) than 3D in the theaters - which is something active glasses can not yet acheive."

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1#post21473431
post #35 of 67
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Originally Posted by Richard Adams View Post

According info from LG at CES,

"The 84LM9600 is going to be available in July 2012. Price is not yet known, but expected to be about $6k-$8k. The effect is truly amazing and has been compared favorably (as in better) than 3D in the theaters - which is something active glasses can not yet acheive."

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1#post21473431

Thanks for sharing that.

That price range for an 84 inch 4K 3D TV would be phenomenal, and would sell big time, but realistically that sounds way too low. Don't get me wrong, if it were to be launched for $8K, I would buy one in a heartbeat! But at the lowest, I would say it will be $10K-$12K. I really like the estimated $8K price though, and really hope that's a close approximation to the actual price.

We're only going to have to wait another 5-6 months to know exactly. Here's hoping.
post #36 of 67
Anyone know what the height of this set should be. I'm at work thinking about this set and wondering if the low basement ceilings will take this on a stand.
post #37 of 67
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Originally Posted by ohyeah32 View Post

--SNIP-- 92" supposedly uses twin lamps, so brightness might be better.--SNIP--


I was in my local HHGregg, looking for the Samsung 43 inch 3D Plasma (which they did not have) & could not help but notice that a) the Mits was SOO much bigger than the 70 & 80 inch sharps (735 & 732, I think) & that even under that harsh crappy lighting, showing a feed shared among about a hundred TV's, of crappy StarzHD displaying Prince of Persia with 40 Sony LCD Bravia's right next to it, the Mits was holding her own. Now, I have a 60 inch Sony SXRD & before that the 42 inch version, & my bulb days are over, but, damn, this Mits is an impressive beast.
post #38 of 67
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Originally Posted by lovswr View Post

I was in my local HHGregg, looking for the Samsung 43 inch 3D Plasma (which they did not have) & could not help but notice that a) the Mits was SOO much bigger than the 70 & 80 inch sharps (735 & 732, I think) & that even under that harsh crappy lighting, showing a feed shared among about a hundred TV's, of crappy StarzHD displaying Prince of Persia with 40 Sony LCD Bravia's right next to it, the Mits was holding her own. Now, I have a 60 inch Sony SXRD & before that the 42 inch version, & my bulb days are over, but, damn, this Mits is an impressive beast.

A 4K display will make the mitsubishi look not so good. Have you been to 4K movies? I'm sold.
post #39 of 67
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Originally Posted by Richard Adams View Post

According info from LG at CES,

"The 84LM9600 is going to be available in July 2012. Price is not yet known, but expected to be about $6k-$8k. The effect is truly amazing and has been compared favorably (as in better) than 3D in the theaters - which is something active glasses can not yet acheive."

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1#post21473431

Can't be better than 3D at the movies. The movies are 4K 3D with higher color depth. This is a passive set I presume.
post #40 of 67
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Originally Posted by Bill View Post

Can't be better than 3D at the movies. The movies are 4K 3D with higher color depth. This is a passive set I presume.

It may not be better than, but from what I've been reading it is certainly comparable to. And the one part that was unanimous from people who saw this TV, is that it is without a doubt the best 3D that was demoed at the show! That in itself says a lot!

This is the TV that I'm hoping to be able to get this year. It has and will do everything that I have ever wanted in a large screen flat panel TV.
post #41 of 67
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Originally Posted by ohyeah32 View Post

It may not be better than, but from what I've been reading it is certainly comparable to. And the one part that was unanimous from people who saw this TV, is that it is without a doubt the best 3D that was demoed at the show! That in itself says a lot!

This is the TV that I'm hoping to be able to get this year. It has and will do everything that I have ever wanted in a large screen flat panel TV.

No, best at home but not a reason to stop going to the movies. There is also the higher color depth of the movies, makes a big difference. How long before we can get that at home is anyone's guess. Not trying to talk you out of one, because I'm thinking of getting one, but I have to laugh when anyone says my "home theater" is as good as the movies. Maybe some day.
post #42 of 67
Seems to me the polarizing should be horizontal on this set but won't work because of viewing angle. What I really want is glasses free. Any good ones at CES?
post #43 of 67
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Originally Posted by Bill View Post

No, best at home but not a reason to stop going to the movies. There is also the higher color depth of the movies, makes a big difference. How long before we can get that at home is anyone's guess. Not trying to talk you out of one, because I intend to get one, but I have to laugh when anyone says my "home theater" is as good as the movies. Maybe some day.

Definitely the best passive 3D experience at home. And that's what I'm wanting, because active 3D is too straining on my eyes. There is no doubt that the theatrical 3D experience is the ultimate, but to be able to even get close to that at home is quite an accomplishment. Yes 3D color depth is better at a 4k theater, but for the present this is as good as it gets. And a screen size of 84"! is starting to get into front projector image size.

84" is the perfect size for my HT room. I am really looking forward to this TV!

The home theater experience at its best is better than going to the theater for a number of reasons. For sheer screen size, overall resolution and color depth, yes a top commercial theater is the best. But for overall comfort, the tactile LFE transducers some have, not having to fight long lines, sit next to a crying baby, no sticky floors, can pause the movie, etc. Well the list goes on and on.

I think for the reasons I mentioned, many will say that your HT is as good (or better) than going to the movies.


Seth
post #44 of 67
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Originally Posted by Bill View Post

No, best at home but not a reason to stop going to the movies. There is also the higher color depth of the movies, makes a big difference. How long before we can get that at home is anyone's guess. Not trying to talk you out of one, because I'm thinking of getting one, but I have to laugh when anyone says my "home theater" is as good as the movies. Maybe some day.

Another point they don't understand. The difference in compression codecs; consumer MPEG4/AVC versus professional MotionJPEG2000
post #45 of 67
Yes, the average movie takes up 500GB. I love going to the movies again, much better than 35mm film prints
post #46 of 67
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Originally Posted by ohyeah32 View Post

Definitely the best passive 3D experience at home. And that's what I'm wanting, because active 3D is too straining on my eyes. There is no doubt that the theatrical 3D experience is the ultimate, but to be able to even get close to that at home is quite an accomplishment. Yes 3D color depth is better at a 4k theater, but for the present this is as good as it gets. And a screen size of 84"! is starting to get into front projector image size.

84" is the perfect size for my HT room. I am really looking forward to this TV!

The home theater experience at its best is better than going to the theater for a number of reasons. For sheer screen size, overall resolution and color depth, yes a top commercial theater is the best. But for overall comfort, the tactile LFE transducers some have, not having to fight long lines, sit next to a crying baby, no sticky floors, can pause the movie, etc. Well the list goes on and on.

I think for the reasons I mentioned, many will say that your HT is as good (or better) than going to the movies.


Seth

I'd add that picture brightness can be or is better at home due to theaters keeping a dim bulb in use or turning down the brightness to extend bulb life. I hate sitting through a movie in a theater that you know should be much brighter than it is, hate it with a passion and will complain about it to theater managers. I want that LG 84" 4k, 3D passive set because I know it will display a brighter 3D image than my Samsung (64D8000) PDP and that large screen will be fantastic to boot and future proof. My Onkyo 709 receiver is already 4K ready.
post #47 of 67
Came across this image from 2012 CES of LG's 4K sets. Is it my imagination, or is the one on the left wider than 16:9? Does LG have a 2.35:1 model?
LL
post #48 of 67
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Originally Posted by pkelecy View Post

Came across this image from 2012 CES of LG's 4K sets. Is it my imagination, or is the one on the left wider than 16:9? Does LG have a 2.35:1 model?

I read that they are selling wider aspect ratio LCD set in China.
post #49 of 67
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Originally Posted by ohyeah32 View Post

I think for the reasons I mentioned, many will say that your HT is as good (or better) than going to the movies.
Seth

Ok, so does anyone have a recipe to make popcorn that's as good as the theater? I've already got one of the cart type poppers. Still, something is missing.
post #50 of 67
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Originally Posted by jbug View Post

I'd add that picture brightness can be or is better at home due to theaters keeping a dim bulb in use or turning down the brightness to extend bulb life. I hate sitting through a movie in a theater that you know should be much brighter than it is, hate it with a passion and will complain about it to theater managers. I want that LG 84" 4k, 3D passive set because I know it will display a brighter 3D image than my Samsung (64D8000) PDP and that large screen will be fantastic to boot and future proof. My Onkyo 709 receiver is already 4K ready.

Good point. I also have noticed that in some theaters the image is too dim. I thought that maybe it was the film itself, but now you've got me wondering.

Yes, the brightness on this 84" should be quite bright. I also love the design of the TV!. And It's good to know that with this TV one will be ready for the future. I sure hope I can get one.
post #51 of 67
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Originally Posted by pkelecy View Post

Came across this image from 2012 CES of LG's 4K sets. Is it my imagination, or is the one on the left wider than 16:9? Does LG have a 2.35:1 model?

It does look wider. I wonder if it's just the way it came out in that photo, and it's not actually wider. Because as far as I know The 84" is the standard 16:9 widescreen Ratio.
post #52 of 67
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Originally Posted by Richard Adams View Post

Ok, so does anyone have a recipe to make popcorn that's as good as the theater? I've already got one of the cart type poppers. Still, something is missing.

That's something many of us would like to learn. I guess that's one part of the movie going experience that is missing at home.
post #53 of 67
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Originally Posted by ohyeah32 View Post

That's something many of us would like to learn. I guess that's one part of the movie going experience that is missing at home.

Here's the answer:

1) Pop your favorite kernels in Paragon Coconut Popping Oil with Flavacol popcorn salt added. For 6 ounces of dry popcorn kernels, use 2 ounces of coconut oil and 1/2 teaspoon of flavored salt. The corn is popped in the usual way, except the coconut oil / flavored salt mixture is used instead of vegetable oil. The salt can be mixed into the oil after the oil is melted, before popping. Do not use oil in a hot air popper without first having the fire department on scene.

2) Use clarified butter or other moisture free buttery popcorn topping to coat the popcorn, 3 tablespoons clarified butter to 6ozs of dry popcorn. If ordinary butter is used without clarifying, soggy popcorn results. You can make your own clarified butter by following directions on the internet. This needs to be a liquid before it's applied. The goal is to coat the popped corn, not have it soak in.

Clarified butter is also called Ghee. Various products are available. For popcorn there is O'Dell's original popcorn butter.

The least healthy toppings are those from margarine or that have trans-fat.

A Whirley-Pop Stovetop hand-cranked popper is good, or a machine with a electric stirrer. I've seen an aluminum handcranked popper melt when left unattended on the high burner, so watch out.

The coconut oil, flavored salt, and butter/topping (coating) amounts shown can be tuned to match the calibration of your monitor. Those attempting to use RealD passive 3D glasses from the theater with an active 3D set may need considerable changes to the amounts shown
post #54 of 67
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Originally Posted by Richard Adams View Post

Here's the answer:

1) Pop your favorite kernels in Paragon Coconut Popping Oil with Flavacol popcorn salt added. For 6 ounces of dry popcorn kernels, use 2 ounces of coconut oil and 1/2 teaspoon of flavored salt. The corn is popped in the usual way, except the coconut oil / flavored salt mixture is used instead of vegetable oil. The salt can be mixed into the oil after the oil is melted, before popping. Do not use oil in a hot air popper without first having the fire department on scene.

2) Use clarified butter or other moisture free buttery popcorn topping to coat the popcorn, 3 tablespoons clarified butter to 6ozs of dry popcorn. If ordinary butter is used without clarifying, soggy popcorn results. You can make your own clarified butter by following directions on the internet. This needs to be a liquid before it's applied. The goal is to coat the popped corn, not have it soak in.

Clarified butter is also called Ghee. Various products are available. For popcorn there is O'Dell's original popcorn butter.

The least healthy toppings are those from margarine or that have trans-fat.

A Whirley-Pop Stovetop hand-cranked popper is good, or a machine with a electric stirrer. I've seen an aluminum handcranked popper melt when left unattended on the high burner, so watch out.

The coconut oil, flavored salt, and butter/topping (coating) amounts shown can be tuned to match the calibration of your monitor. Those attempting to use RealD passive 3D glasses from the theater with an active 3D set may need considerable changes to the amounts shown

LOL - you are worried about Trans fat yet you recommend using Coconut Oil which is super high in Saturated fat. Saturated fat tends to raise the level of cholesterol in the blood.
post #55 of 67
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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart View Post

LOL - you are worried about Trans fat yet you recommend using Coconut Oil which is super high in Saturated fat. Saturated fat tends to raise the level of cholesterol in the blood.

It depends on the type of coconut oil that's used. Refined coconut oil that's been Hydrogenated is VERY high in Trans-Fat. Cold pressed (non refined and non hydrogenated) extra virgin coconut oil is much safer to use, is high heat stable, and is 0 Trans-Fat. Although for people who are wanting to lose weight, since it is high in fat it will pack on the pounds if used too often. And as with most things, use in moderation.

Here's an interesting article from the NY Times about Coconut Oil.
post #56 of 67
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Originally Posted by Richard Adams View Post

Here's the answer:

1) Pop your favorite kernels in Paragon Coconut Popping Oil with Flavacol popcorn salt added. For 6 ounces of dry popcorn kernels, use 2 ounces of coconut oil and 1/2 teaspoon of flavored salt. The corn is popped in the usual way, except the coconut oil / flavored salt mixture is used instead of vegetable oil. The salt can be mixed into the oil after the oil is melted, before popping. Do not use oil in a hot air popper without first having the fire department on scene.

2) Use clarified butter or other moisture free buttery popcorn topping to coat the popcorn, 3 tablespoons clarified butter to 6ozs of dry popcorn. If ordinary butter is used without clarifying, soggy popcorn results. You can make your own clarified butter by following directions on the internet. This needs to be a liquid before it's applied. The goal is to coat the popped corn, not have it soak in.

Clarified butter is also called Ghee. Various products are available. For popcorn there is O'Dell's original popcorn butter.

The least healthy toppings are those from margarine or that have trans-fat.

A Whirley-Pop Stovetop hand-cranked popper is good, or a machine with a electric stirrer. I've seen an aluminum handcranked popper melt when left unattended on the high burner, so watch out.

The coconut oil, flavored salt, and butter/topping (coating) amounts shown can be tuned to match the calibration of your monitor. Those attempting to use RealD passive 3D glasses from the theater with an active 3D set may need considerable changes to the amounts shown

Thanks for sharing that.
post #57 of 67
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Originally Posted by ohyeah32 View Post

It depends on the type of coconut oil that's used. Refined coconut oil that's been Hydrogenated is VERY high in Trans-Fat. Cold pressed (non refined and non hydrogenated) extra virgin coconut oil is much safer to use, is high heat stable, and is 0 Trans-Fat. Although for people who are wanting to lose weight, since it is high in fat it will pack on the pounds if used too often. And as with most things, use in moderation.

Here's an interesting article from the NY Times about Coconut Oil.

Indeed. As with salt and eggs, we can now add coconut oil to the list of stuff that's not as bad for you as the academics once pondered.

I am more interested in the 84" monitor than the popcorn... And now the question is. Do I wait for the 84" 4K LG, or get a 92" mits DLP now? Probably not going to do both this year.
post #58 of 67
LG, full 1080p passive 3D , 4K, brighter, smaller (thin), no bulb, no rainbows a no brainer AFAIC.
post #59 of 67
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Originally Posted by Bill View Post

LG, full 1080p passive 3D , 4K, brighter, smaller (thin), no bulb, no rainbows a no brainer AFAIC.

I have had a Sony 70" with a bulb for 5+ years, and not yet used the spare bulb that came with it. Replaced light engine though.

92" size is excellent compared to 84".

92" available now, Needs active glasses, it's not 4K, but then there is no 4K source material yet.

Brighter could matter.

Did Mitsubishi show any new big screen 3D sets at CES???????????
post #60 of 67
Size isn't everything You didn't mention rainbows. 2k upconverted to 4k will look better in the interim. I'll bet next year Mits will have a 92" 4k for less money, now were talking.
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