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post #181 of 2133
WMGT-DT is, indeed, sending the widescreen NBC NASCAR feed. Pretty pictures. Thanks and kudos to Chris McClendon over there for staying on it, and finding out what they needed to do in order to bring this to viewers in middle GA.
post #182 of 2133
What are they doing? Downconverting the HD to SD, but still broadcasting it as 16:9? (I don't think NBC has a SDTV widescreen feed).

This IS an alternative to buying a full-blown ($$$) HDTV encoder and all the peripherals! (Here at KSL, most viewers think we run our news in HD....the 16:9 SDTV looks so good!)
post #183 of 2133
NBC does send a hybrid 16:9 SD feed... that's what WMGT-DT brought us today. Apparently, WMGT didn't have all the gear in place to receive it. They do now. Very nice picture.

You might want to get with NBC Ops, or failing that, Chris McClendon at WMGT, for info on it. It's annoying for viewers who know the feed is available, but can't see it on their local affiliate.
post #184 of 2133
Hi guys,

I moved to warner robins from tallahassee this week so I am new to this forum. I am watching the DAl/PITT game on 4-1. the picture looks good but I can't tell if it is HD. The picture is 4x3 with side bars on my my Sony widescreen tv. In tallahassee, all HD ota content is in 16x9.

thanks,

Kenny Council
post #185 of 2133
Quote:


Originally posted by kcouncil
Hi guys,

I moved to warner robins from tallahassee this week so I am new to this forum. I am watching the DAl/PITT game on 4-1. the picture looks good but I can't tell if it is HD. The picture is 4x3 with side bars on my my Sony widescreen tv. In tallahassee, all HD ota content is in 16x9.

thanks,

Kenny Council

The game is not in HD. Welcome to Warner Robins.
post #186 of 2133
I live in Atlanta and got the Dallas/Pitt game in HD from my local Atlanta FOX station, WAGA channel 5. I've been trying to help a friend in Cochran get the Macon DTV stations and it looks like they are a little behind with their digital game. He can only get WMAZ and the ABC affilate. It's really too bad that the Macon stations are not up to speed with the digital implementation because the digital/hd technology is awesome. For your sake, I hope the Macon stations get up to speed in a hurry. For the stations that are giving you HD, write them a "positive" email, for the stations not broadcasting in HD write them and encourage them to implement this asap, tell everyone you know with an email address to do the same. Everybody will benefit in the long run. If nothing else, the Bulldog nation in middle Ga should ask for the HD because a lot of the Dawg games are broadcast in HD. The LSU, Tenn (don't remember is the SC game was or not) games have already been shown in HD and the Ark game will be in HD this weekend. I'm betting the Florida and Auburn game will be in HD.

Good luck and write you local stations
post #187 of 2133
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Originally posted by Harleyman1340
I live in Atlanta and got the Dallas/Pitt game in HD from my local Atlanta FOX station, WAGA channel 5. I've been trying to help a friend in Cochran get the Macon DTV stations and it looks like they are a little behind with their digital game. He can only get WMAZ and the ABC affilate.

Good luck and write you local stations

NBC, CBS, and ABC are all broadcasting HD in the Middle GA area. Just waiting on Fox to get with it. According to a statement they made last month, they are hoping to have the funding to do the upgrades next year.
post #188 of 2133
I don't know if WMGT's signal will reach Cochran, and WGXA is probably even less likely, but it's good news that WMAZ and WPGA can.
post #189 of 2133
Quote:


Originally posted by Harleyman1340
I've been trying to help a friend in Cochran get the Macon DTV stations and it looks like they are a little behind with their digital game. He can only get WMAZ and the ABC affilate. It's really too bad that the Macon stations are not up to speed with the digital implementation because the digital/hd technology is awesome.

WPGA-DT (ABC) is the only station in the Macon market making their full licensed power. Hal Sutton's the chief engineer over there.

WMAZ-DT (CBS) is making about half their permitted power. They're good about passing HD... if CBS sends HD, that's what's on the air. John Timms is the CE at WMAZ, and is very, very good about trying to address any issues you may notice.

WGXA-DT (Fox) is making a whopping 1160 watts. Almost a waste of time, especially since they're not sending any HD at all. Richard Blanton's the CE, and right now, looks like he's fubared his PSIP stream again, so even if you see signal, you may not get anything.

WMGT-DT (NBC) is making 3300 watts, on channel 40, right next to their full power analog channel 41, so that makes things challenging right out of the box. Chris McClendon's the CE, and now that things are settling down from the launch of their news operation, he's taken time to make sure they do a better job with HD and the ED stuff (like NASCAR) that NBC sends.

Down at Cochran, you can't expect to see Fox or NBC. They just aren't making enough power.

Where I am, near Perry, Fox does OK (with some breakup sometimes) and NBC is decent most of the time.
post #190 of 2133
What's up with WPGA lately? The latest episodes of NYPD Blue and Desperate Housewives weren't broadcast in HD. Or at least they hadn't switched over before I gave up on them and switched to the SD feed (didn't want to record windowboxed material). On the plus side, my WPGA-DT reception has been very good lately.

Bob
post #191 of 2133
Quote:


Originally posted by oldave
WGXA-DT (Fox) is making a whopping 1160 watts. Almost a waste of time, especially since they're not sending any HD at all. Richard Blanton's the CE, and right now, looks like he's fubared his PSIP stream again, so even if you see signal, you may not get anything.

I hadn't recieved Fox24 (DT16) for about a month. A few days ago it started coming in again. I live about 15 miles west of Macon Mall, half way between Lizella and Roberta, off the main road. I'm about 20 miles from the towers.
post #192 of 2133
Attention AVS forum members:
My name is Ralph Carson and I am Fox 24's Assistant Chief Engineer. I have read various comments on PSIP problems on our channel 16. We have repaired these problems. However, they appear to show up only on some sets and we have no knowledge of which ones. Our monitor receivers do not display the problem. If you are receiving our signal with sufficient strength and are not getting a picture I would like to know more about it. please post your make and model, and let me know what is happening. If you have been getting our signal, but are no longer getting it in spite of having good signal, I would like to know more.

I can assure y'all that we (the engineering dept) are very interested in DTV and are doing all we can to promote it. However we must wait for the corporation to move on it. Until then, we are doing all we can to be ready. Meanwhile, we want to iron out the kinks in the system we have, and your help in this regard will be appreciated. Thank you,

Ralph Carson
FOX24
post #193 of 2133
Ralph,

Any idea at all when Fox will be up and running with a high def feed? I'm a Cox subscriber and am dying for some Falcon games on Sundays in high def. Also I understand "24" will be broadcast in high def this year. We're huge fans of the show. I know I had read in another thread that Fox 24 would be broadcasting in high def as of 9/12/04. Was this something that was planned but was cut at a higher level? I'd like to know who at Fox corporate I'd have to email to express my frustrations. Thanks for your time,

Bob
post #194 of 2133
Waiting mostly for some Fox HD. Glad to know you care about DTV. Hope you can keep it running. No problems now, but for a month or so I wasn't recieving a picture on my Mits WS-73711. It has an integrated tuner, but no signal strength meter. I also have a Voom set top box with a signal meter and it was showing a 96 signal, but I was getting no picture. Everything is fine now. Hope you can keep it that way and please bring us some HD as soon as possible. Thanks for letting us know you're there. I assure you, if I have any problems with reception, I'll post them here. Thanks again....
post #195 of 2133
Ralph:

I am curious as to the difference in the power of your signal compared to WMAZ and WPGA. WMAZ (DT 4) and WPGA (DT 32) are off the charts signal-wise on my Dish Network 921 receiver, but your digital 16 does not show at all. FWIW I live off Wesleyan Drive in North Macon with a nice Winegard antenna and amp.

Thanks in advance,

Miguel Garcia
post #196 of 2133
Anyone else having problems with WMAZ Digital 4.1 and 4.2 today? I'm having to watch Army/Navy game on analog 13. This game is supposed to be in HD. I'm getting no picture (or sound), but signal strength is 100. I hope they haven't fried anything over there. I hope they can get this fixed before the SEC Championship game. Oh well......
post #197 of 2133
It's working fine for me. Getting both picture and sound.
post #198 of 2133
Quote:


Originally posted by Flashram
It's working fine for me. Getting both picture and sound.

Thanks Flashram, must be something in the Voom STB. Tomorrow I'll hook my vhf antenna back up to my tv's integrated tuner and see if it will come in. If it work's then, it must be something with the Voom STB.
post #199 of 2133
It's probably not your Voom. I spoke with John Timm on Friday. WMAZ replaced their PSIP box on Thursday. They might have a few things incorrect that are causing trouble to some boxes. Also, they changed the major channel number in their PSIP from 4 to 13, to comply with FCC rule going into effect I think in February. Not coincidentally, WPGA has done the same and is now 58-1 instead of 32-1. You might need to rescan channels to pick up the change.

The FCC rule about major channel numbers is some messed up logic. It makes sense only for stations that will be moving their digital to their NTSC channel at the end of the transition period. Stations like WPGA and WGNM which have no choice but to stay on the digital channel because channels 52+ are being eliminated, well they shall forevermore be known as 58 and 64 and that makes little sense. (Yeah, I understand that stations have a lot of "brand equity" in their channel number, that's certainly true for 13 which had a camera on the scene when Moses parted the Red Sea, but I'd argue that it is not true for relative newcomers like 58 or 64.) Here's where the logic gets really screwed up: I believe WMAZ has decided to keep channel 13, but let's suppose that they had decided to keep channel 4 instead. According to the rule WMAZ will have to keep using major channel number 13 forever. So after the transition when channel 13 becomes vacant, let's suppose somebody new comes in and gets a license on 13. Since major channel 13 is already in use, guess what major channel number this new channel 13 would have to use? They would have to use 4!!!

John Timm also said they upgraded encoder software, and the new software can do statistical multiplexing, which if they can get it going will dynamically reallocate more bits to HD and give the doppler exactly as few bits as it deserves. That should increase HD quality, good because they've been giving it only 12 lately, making room for the SD subchannel they used for election coverage.

Meanwhile, WPGA is having some troubles with closed captioning on digital, plus their encoder will at random times freeze up. Their PSIP box also tends to just stop sending data. They might have some outages of indeterminate length as they get that resolved.
post #200 of 2133
Thanks Wayne, that's some great info. When I got Voom over a year ago, they supplied an OTA antenna for their STB. It has worked great up until now. Channel 4 still won't come in after a scan with the Voom STB. When I purchased my HDTV a year and a half ago, I let the salesman talk me into getting a new OTA antenna. He said the old antenna's would not work with HDTV. I found out he was wrong after I hooked my old one up to the HDTV. Then I decided to replace it anyway and hook the new one up, after all I had already bought it. I use it with my HDTV's integrated tuner. It was an Winegard UHF (HD9095). It works fine, I can pick up the Atlanta stations minutely in daytime (with dropouts) and mostly at night (occasional dropouts). I've been picking up 4 since, although I haven't been able to get Atlanta's channel 10 (11). Yesterday, I disconnected my Winegard and hooked the old one up (so old, I think it's a ChannelMaster VHF/UHF/FM). Low and behold, Atanta's channel 10 (11) comes in better than any of the others from Atlanta, no drop outs in daytime yet (as the other Atlanta channels do). But, like I said at the beginning of this post, still no WMAZ 4. Any ideas, anyone. Now that College Football is coming to an end, I don't really watch anything else on CBS. But, I do watch the news on WMAZ 4.1 and check out the radar regularly on 4.2. Thanks again.
post #201 of 2133
Dear Bobbareeno:
We had originally hoped to be on the air with HDTV in December. Corporate has nixed that and we are now looking at an indefinite time in 2005. However, there are other developments that could alter that schedule. I cannot go into detail, but our management needs to know that you are out there and you care. Cards and letters can be sent to:

WGXA TV
P.O. Box 340
Macon, Georgia 31201

I have loved surround sound since the quadraphonic sound of the seventies. Few people had heard real quad and didn't realize how good it was because of the proliferation of fake or technically inferior gear on the market. Quad was improved too late to save it. With modern digital surround sound, this is not a problem. This is a feature of HDTV and will make television more immersive and enjoyable. I recently visited someone who had an HDTV set operating in the room. At first I did not pay it much attention, for while it looked good, I have seen NTSC pictures that look very good also. The thing about HDTV is, is that if it's not a huge screen size, it's very subtile. You're sitting in the room talking to someone and then suddenly it hits you! "Wow! That picture is gorgeous!" I am a believer. I assure you that I will do all I can to promote HDTV at WGXA and anywhere else.

Ralph Carson
Assistant Chief Engineer
WGXA TV

P.S. Dear Voomvoom: I have noted your model and make. I am starting a database of sets that we have "gotten lost" on. Thanks.
post #202 of 2133
Dear TowJumper:
We are transmitting on low power at this time. However, we are fairly high on the tower. An preamplifier can help. I recommend putting the preamp at the bottom of the mast rather than the top. This way, if it needs servicing or replacement, it can be done with taking down the antenna and mast. While it may not perform as well as if it were on top, I believe the difference will prove to be negligible. Any antenna system that will work with analog TV, (both bands) will work with HDTV. The antenna is widebanded and it doesn't matter. As to whether one antenna works better than another depends on the type of antenna. However, what works better with analog generally works better with DTV and HDTV. Don't forget to use lightning and surge arrestors.

Ralph Carson
WGXA TV
post #203 of 2133
Ralph:

Thanks so much for the reply, good to know someone is promoting DTV (and HDTV) at WGXA.

I thought about trying different amp/preamps with my setup but since it pulls in 13 and 58 (DT and analog) so well I was going to leave well enough alone and wait for a power boost from your station to perhaps solve the problem.

And idea when his could happen (power boost)?

I may not watch the Superbowl this year otherwise - HD football has me completely spoiled on the 50 inch plasma.

The Pittsburgh/JAX game last night on ESPN HD was spectacular, however it was painful to watch SportsCenter HD and see cuts of the Falcons getting thrashed in HD -- painful because of the beating Atlanta took AND because of how great the HD feed looked... .

Miguel
post #204 of 2133
Update on my problems:
Saturday I had left a message on channel 13's website about my problems. Today an Engineer from channel 13 called me and asked about my problems and we talked about 10 minutes. He said they were having problems with Mits sets, but didn't know what was causing it. He said I might have to do a re-scan on my Voom STB. I already had. He also said he was going to contact Voom and see if together they could figure something out. We said our Thank You's and Goodbye's. About an hour later I did a re-scan and it came in, but this time it's on 13.1 and 13.2. I then tried my Mits integrated reciever and low and behold, it's working too. I called the Engineer back and gave him a report. He said they hadn't done anything or made any changes, since we had talked. Now I'm confused, but at least it's working. Thanks to all.
post #205 of 2133
Thread Starter 
After reading about the troubles some of you are having and considering my inability to recieve Fox at all, i did a rescan last night. I still get WMAZ at 4.1, 4.2, 13.1 and 13.2 all at 100/100 rate -- a beautiful picture. I get the ABC channel (crappy football but great picture) at about 60. FOX still does not show up at all, too bad, they have some nice programming. I live near Towjumper near Wesleyan College. He cheats at girls' soccer (of all things)
post #206 of 2133
Ralph,

Thanks for the reply. I'm glad to know you're promoting HD over there at Fox. I will definitely sit down and send a letter to the address you provided. When I see the Falcon's highlights on ESPN-HD it nearly kills me to see them in HD when I've been forced to watch the game on WGXA in SD. I hope Fox corporate gets you guys up and running in HD soon. I know I'll be the first to sing your praises if you do! Once again thank you for your reply to my questions.

Bob
post #207 of 2133
I can occasionally get DT-40 (remapped to 41), anyone know if NBC is operating at full power yet?

Quote:
Originally posted by Macondawg
I live near Towjumper near Wesleyan College. He cheats at girls' soccer (of all things)

Cheat? Well at least none of MY girls tested positive for any Balco products.
post #208 of 2133
Has anyone had any problems with PSIP changes lately? It seems that the only station that got it right was WMAZ. WPGA went from 32.1 to 58.1, and then 32.2 in the past few days. NBC made some changes too. Since the changes, I am experiencing more dropouts than before on both ABC and NBC.
Regards
Walt
post #209 of 2133
Can I pick up cbs and abc out of Macon, Ga ota. I live in Dublin, Ga and antenna.web says I am 42 miles from the macon stations. I was wondering if the digital signal was strong enough to pick it up in Dublin.
post #210 of 2133
Thread Starter 
I'd be suprised if you could get them, they run at pretty low levels. However, I think the actual towers are south of Macon so you might not be that far away. Can you pick up the analog broadcasts?
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