Teranex 2D>3D -Not just for Millionaires any More - Page 4

Based on that, has anyone tested this device to see if it strips the HDCP to allow the Teranex to work for regular blu-rays? http://www.hdfury.com/products/hdfury4-specs/

I am fairly sure the answer is no. They have publicly acknowledged the device is not HDCP compliant and getting such compliance is no small matter. The device has a number of features that would not be allowed under HDCP so they would need to be disabled in HDCP mode.

And on top of all that BlackMagic Designs is a major hardware supplier to the motion picture and television industry. They can't afford to make enemies in Hollywood.

And last but not least, filtering out HDCP is illegal.

Sorry, but in simpler terms.....does this mean that this new BlackMagic Teranex 3D processor CAN'T be used to convert 2D Blurays to 3D for display on a 3D TV or Projector??? Thanks

It will input component video, and you could probably do something with that. Not a chance with HDMI input from a BluRay player!

I did get a chance to play around with the 2D unit last month. Very nice processor, especially considering the price. I don't think they are using a Realta or Reon inside. My impression is that they implemented the Teranex algorithms in an FPGA.

At ISE the Teranex guy (the only or one of the few left following the acquisition) told me the box was using the chipset developed under the ownership of the chipmaker (Silicon something I don't care to look up right now;-)), they could move it back to FPGA, if needed, that would be no issue, as it are the alghoritms that count, but there was no intention to move away from the chips. And that was at the previous price point about 10K above the currently announced price.

Yes, the whole idea of the custom chip was cost reduction. Using multiple FPGAs is more expensive to mass produce and a much higher risk of production line problems. Making a custom chip of this complexity is an expensive undertaking usually reserved for consumer products as that is about the only way to recoup the costs. This is what probably put Silicon Image out of business.

The same thing happened to Quvis. In the late 1990s they developed a Wavelet compression algorithm and produced a broadcast HD disk recorder that had impressive performance, higher picture quality then the HD VTRs on the market at the time. Then back around 2001, they pushed for this compression algorithm to become the DCI standard. And in preparation for that they embarked on a program to reduce the 2 large 12in square circuit boards chock full of FPGAs to a single chip. They also had some illusions of selling the chip to the DBS and cable STB companies as well to replace MPEG2. Well the DCI standard adopoted Motion JPEG and the DBS people went with MPEG4. The R&D costs to develop that chip put Quvis out of business for good! The last I heard the IP is now sitting within the bankruptcy court - no takers.

Big advantage of the FPGA is that you can easily reprogram the device, whereas you're stuck with what you've got in the ASIC. When they started to develop the Realta years ago, there probably was a big price-performance advantage. Not sure there is such a big cost performance difference these days. Anyway, when are you going to buy the 2D Teranex and rip the cover off to see what's inside?

Yeah, no-one is using the Silicon Optix chip as it is/was just too expensive for the mass consumer market like bulb projectors. Quvis, that name vaguely rings a bell.

Flexibility is nice, but it implies ongoing algorithm development.

Could be ongoing feature development too. The 2D is missing gamma adjustment. I figured for the price, something was missing.

One thing I can say for the Realta is that my processor (Calibre PVPRO HD) still gives the best/smoothest upscaling I've seen. That processor is 4.5 years old and has never failed to start up and run, has never crashed or locked up, and is still running the OEM firmware! More than what I can say for all the so-called "high-end" models discussed over on the LumaBay forum.

Calibre is a high-priced brand of scalers/processors, so it should life up to the price tag, and therefor last for a number of years. Good to hear these products do. But since few Teranex guys are left, wouldn't they have their hands full getting the product ready...
Edited by donaldk - 12/29/12 at 8:31pm

Here we are March 4th and the Blackmagic Design website still says that their Teranex 3D Processor is shipping in January. Anyone one have the inside scoop on this processor to be??? Maybe they are modifying it so that it can accept and process a HDMI input from a 2D bluray player???