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post #91 of 108
My current ethernet network is wired such that every connection goes through a central switch. Is it true that this configuration won't work with the HDBase-T technology? I'm assuming that there needs to be a direct cat5/cat6 connection between the receiver and transmitter, with no switch in the middle. Am I correct? If not, can someone tell me how I can use HDBase-T with my current network configuration with a central ethernet switch?
post #92 of 108
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Originally Posted by zigboy View Post

My current ethernet network is wired such that every connection goes through a central switch. Is it true that this configuration won't work with the HDBase-T technology? I'm assuming that there needs to be a direct cat5/cat6 connection between the receiver and transmitter, with no switch in the middle. Am I correct? If not, can someone tell me how I can use HDBase-T with my current network configuration with a central ethernet switch?

you are correct

you might still accomplish the same thing if you can make a direct run from transmitter to receiver (byass the switch and use adapters to couple CAT cable sections) using existing cabling: then add ethernet feed from switch
post #93 of 108
Tried to search but I'm getting a tapatalk not installed error,

I'm looking at the HDanywhere multi room +. Is there an equivalent kit at mono price, or this side of the pond? Just 4x4, and receivers bought separately? I just saw great reviews on the hdanywhere multiroom+
post #94 of 108
I currently use the monoprice it works fine but it wont work for my need.
what I need is a self powered (poe) unit with cec
were my tv will located all I want to see is a plug and a hdmi port plus some other ports. Ethernet for internet for smart tv's.
the cec situation is a little bit of an issue.
I use xbmc with the pulse eight cec adapter. I would like to have the adapter at the pc end and not the tv end. this will alow me not to run some sort of usb extender that may be to far for things to work properly.
I also want things rack mounted with the cables if possible on the back of the unit. This will keep things nice and clean for the show off.

any idea what brand i should be looking at? i can also do my own install.
post #95 of 108
Has anyone tried using this device from Monoprice? http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=101&cp_id=10113&cs_id=1011310&p_id=8151&seq=1&format=2 It claims to be able to pass 3D as well as all of the digital audio formats, along with IR. My concern is that it uses 2 Cat 5 cables, so I am thinking it is not an HDBaseT chip. If it is, and people have seen good success with it then it would be awesome, I mean a 4X4 matrix over HDMI or ethernet with IR for that price would be cool, but I don't want to mess around with trying to get it to work just to save a few bucks.
post #96 of 108
HDBaseT devices use a single cable. If the description of the device doesn't mention HDBaseT, it probably isn't HDBaseT.
post #97 of 108
Any one tried this one or have any experience with this company? Thanks http://www.hdtvsupply.com/4x4-hdmi-matrix-switch-hdbaset.html#axzz2D6na7tvc
post #98 of 108
The comment about HDBaseT supporting anything but a point-to-point connection is incorrect. You can only connect one receiver to one transmitter.
post #99 of 108
Hasn't that changed, practically speaking, with the release of gear like this? I know it's not a true multipoint connection, but daisy chaining these would give you the effective equivalent of a bus topology.

Daisy-Chain-Repeater-HDBaseT




This was discussed a little upthread. Cascading consumer level gear still isn't that common, although this year's CES showed some interest in HDbaseT so maybe that situation will improve.
Edited by innatetech - 1/26/13 at 11:22am
post #100 of 108
Yes, HDBaseT can handle daisy chain and star topologies as well as point-to-point, although there are few consumer products that exploit this capability.
post #101 of 108
Hi guys

I have a couple of questions

My goal is to connect my PC to my living room TV to play a couple of games.

Now i looked at several solutions and HDbaseT seemed to be the most promising one

My setup is the following:

I have a gigabit LAN in my flat, running from a central station with a switch to four rooms. In one of them is the router with a DSL modem.
So between my room and the TV are at least 3 switches probably 4 when I would connect a HDMI extender in my room, since I still need ethernet and there is only one ehternet connection per room

So from what I understand, that will in no case work with HDbaseT? Is that also true for other hdmi extenders without the HDbaseT standard?
I also looked at whid solutions. But my TV and my PC are I guess 15 Meters apart with two walls between them. So I'm not sure if that will work.
Last solution would be to just run a 25m HDMI cable between the two and just unplug it when I don't need it.

Am I correct with my assumptions? Do you guys know of any other solution for me that doesn't involve running new cables through my walls?

Thanks for any suggestions
post #102 of 108
HDBaseT is not ethernet. You cannot connect HDBaseT devices to an ethernet network even though they use the same kind of cable. They require their own cabling.

There are devices that will take a HDMI signal, compress it, send it over ethernet, and uncompress it. Do a search on "HD over IP". They usually seem to run on dedicated networks with managed switches. I am not sure whether they would work in your environment.
post #103 of 108
Hi all,

I am new to the forum. I am in the process of building a new house. I have all cables( cat 5e for ethernet, cat 5e for video and speaker wire for distributed audio) home run to the basement.

My question is : Will the Atlona AT-PRO3HD44M with 4 AT-HDRX-IR receivers allow me to control and switch 4 devices located in the basement( 2 sat receivers.1 media player and 1 bluray player) at 4 different TV locations.

I will be using a logitech touch remote in each of the rooms.

Thank you
post #104 of 108
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Originally Posted by jmsc View Post

Will the Atlona AT-PRO3HD44M with 4 AT-HDRX-IR receivers allow me to control and switch 4 devices located in the basement( 2 sat receivers.1 media player and 1 bluray player) at 4 different TV locations.
Depends entirely on your IR gear. Think of the Atlona gear as a wire between the IR receiver in each room and your IR gear in the basement.
post #105 of 108
Thanks Colm,

Just so I am clear

The Atlona Matrix switch comes with 5 IR emitters. These should control the components connected to the switch in the basement.

The HT-HDRX-IR receiver- located behind each TV has an IR receiver that will transmit IR signal to switch from remote

So If I have an IR remote(logitech) at each location programmed to control the switch and the 4 connected components I should be able to control the switch and any of the connected components in any room?
post #106 of 108
If you happen to have two of any one Source (your Sat Receiver for example) and they are both the same box with the same IR codes the trick is to ensure the Matrix you go with allows for 'Routed' control so that you dont end up controlling two 'same box' Sources from one Zone.

Joe
post #107 of 108
great point, Thanks Joe!
post #108 of 108
Don't know if we'll ever see it, but wouldn't it be cool if most of the TVs for sale simply had an HDBaseT connector and that's it? Stick it on the wall and run a CAT6 cable to the box and you're done! No worrying about properly wiring AC power to a recessed box behind the TV and a myriad of other wires and related issues.

How would this affect a structured wiring system one might build? If you were certain this was the future you could just build a solid CAT6 structured wiring system and be ready.
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Originally Posted by Colm View Post

Keep in mind that for anything longer than a few feet, you want to use solid Cat 6 cable, for the same reasons you do with etherenet: the manufacturers are better able to control geometry, hence impedance and performance, with solid core than stranded. Long preterminated stranded patch cables may seem convenient, but they can hurt performance.
You don't like pre-terminated patch cables because they're stranded, not solid?

I've always been of the mind that cable should be done properly - runs tied down to patch panels and wall plates, patch cords for the final moveable connections. I cringe when I see a network cable run from one end of the house to the other with a couple of RJ45s crimped on each end. Always thought you should leave the crimping of ends to the machines in the factory.
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