Oppo-95 or Sony XA5400ES - Page 12

I don't remember seeing anyone who won't allow someone to have an opinion of certain kind. It has become quite tiresome to see such misconception about other posters on this board.

Wow, that's quite a stream you have there, good for you!

I've yet to see anyone say you can't have your own opinion.
That doesn't mean get to have your own facts.

The facts are, in his system, with his speakers, in his room and with his ears he is getting a certain result. It's not something that a graph can prove wrong, but that hasn't stopped the evangelists from preaching their gospel.

Yes, that's a fact, although the word "result" is a bit grandiose in this context.

But the way he arrived at that "result" tells us only about him. It doesn't tell us anything about the equipment he was listening to. That is also a fact.

I'm perfectly comfortable with a forum in which both these facts can be cited. Apparently, others are not.

+1 If some don't agree with his testing methodology and the tools he used to obtain those results then I say purchase the transports in question do your own comparison and report back.

Uh, no. You need his speakers and his room to have an idea what someone might be hearing, among other things.

Must you lie like this?:

No need as fortunately, the audio science here is well established. For the same reason we don't need to jump off of a tall building to validate gravity.

It's the responsibility of the individual making extraordinary claims to prove them.

Actually, it is posters who complain about people having different opinions than theirs that are trying to not allow other people to have an opinion.

It all depends. Some testing methodologies are proven to have fatal flaws. For example sighted evaluations are almost always positive for audible differences even when the items being compared are identical or even the very same item being presented as if it were two different things.

Really! And then what? It's not going to change his original preference.

It seems as though the internet has created too many experts. Even the so-called "Experts" can't agree and we seem to side with the expert that supports our argument. I don't know how some actually enjoy their setup when they are always looking for minute detail that most of the time is only measurable and not audible (though some will claim to hear this minute difference, which science may say it is impossibole to hear).

The only testing I do when trying to decide which transport I prefer is to trust my ears. I don't need fancy tools and measurements to tell mne what my ears are already telling me.

If only. The are too few experts, and too much opinion pretending to be expertise.
Which is fine for you, but irrelevant for anyone else.

That's where you are completely wrong, and is an arrogant thing to say. You can not decide for anyone else what is or is not irrelevant for them. One does not have to prove a thing, as if they need to prove it to you or anyone. Sharing one's impressions is just that. Take it or leave it. Demanding proof as if you are holding court is simply trolling.

You are confused. Try to understand the difference between presenting personal impression and presenting claim.

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If you ever have the opportunity to actually trust just what you hear and get your prejudices out of the way you will find that all transports that meet reasonable quality standards sound the same. People put too much credance in sloppy sighted evaluations wherein the differences they hear are artifacts of the things that they don't hold constant in their listening evaluations.

You are confused, you called me a liar when you can't read my mind.

No mind reading needed. You did lie when you posted this:
You had a chance to back that up with quotes (easy task if they existed) but you couldn't.

That is not a lie. That is an opinion you don't agree with. Call it whatever you want, but stop preaching at me.

I don't know if the prejudice comment was directed at me, but I have none. I maintain 3 transports (Oppo BDP-105, Sony BDP-S5000ES and Denon DVD-5910CI) and the best DAC implementation that I had heard (prior to selling my BDP-95) in my system was the Denon DVD-5910CI. I have also auditioned the Denon DVD-3000BDCI and the Pioneer Elite BDP-09FD.

I am not following your comment which I have bolded. Different DACs from the various manufacturers have their own sonic signature so how can they sound same.

"People put too much credance in sloppy sighted evaluations" This is why I NEVER ask for others opinions on audio performance.

I see. So, you don't like to use a phrase like "In my opinion" or "I think". By the way, what is your opinion based on, fiction?

How do you know that?

Because I hear differences between the 3 transports in my setup via my Zektor MAS7.1 audio switch. So I am satisfied that I do hear differences.

Did you listen to them at same volume? Try 2 transports of the same model and set them up at different volume levels. You will hear differences even though they are same models.

Yes!

What hobbyist or enthusiast (which I am both) would take the time and expense to setup two of the same model transports and to prove what exactly? This is a hobby that I thoroughly enjoy and I am satisfied with my findings as it pertains to my setup. However, I do respect those who wish to dig deeper into these comparisons and while that is taking place I will listen to a little Earth, Wind & Fire.

Whether their postings here is from their impressions , claims or with any intention , I would still to see more members expressing their experiences with some of the gears we do not own or would choose to buy . Most of us should know how to read postings and select threads that is useful to us . Even if we have the same OPPO 95 & Sony 5400 , it would perform differently depending on cables . amp. & speakers that we use to compare them with . Some system setup would favor 95 or 5400 so no absolute agreement here

Cheer .

Any proof?
Edited by kashmereino - 12/30/12 at 2:58pm

How did you set it up so that the signal strength from each player going to amplification section was identical?
Someone like you, one who contradicts known scientific findings by experts. There are many retailer that offer return policy or in-home trial option. It won't cost you anything except for some efforts to bring it home, set it up and return it when done. If that's too much for you, you can even use the one you already own and have someone change the volume without you knowing. Try it.

My opinion is based on something other than the dogmatic rigid zealotry that yours is based on.