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post #1 of 13
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I've been out of the game for awhile, set up my first HTPC in the Mark Rejhon days (pre-2000) here in the HTPC forum. I'm amazed that people are still making these! In short, why?? This should be a sticky. Pardon my ignorance if that sort of thing is relegated to a FAQ outside the sub-forums, or something.

I'm not completely stupid. My guess is that the reasons for building an HTPC have changed. Originally it was mainly because of the video card. An ATI / Nvidia / Matrox and (*gasp*) 3dfx card had better hardware scaling than the early DVD players, and buying a dedicated scaler was cost prohibitive. Now it is probably Internet streaming, cheap upgradable storage, easy upgradability etc. that take center stage rather than image quality -- but what do I know? A sticky could address this for people stumbling on the forum, or returning to it.

Cost has always been a big reason of course. Excitement at the possibilities of what can be done in a weekend with a few parts from newegg and some coding skills. Software is usually free because a programming whiz can make a name for him/herself producing a utility to implement, say, a new 3:2 pulldown algorithm brainstormed by the community, and that's an enormous feeling of pride that rivals any money-based motivation, for many.

So I guess I answered my own question. But once in awhile it is good to step back and say, can I just buy a $99 box that does 90% of what I want? But HTPC will always be providing that last 10%-- innovation that some old rich guy can swipe and patent and burn into the firmware of tomorrow's $99 box!
post #2 of 13
My motivation dates back to our first HDTV. I wanted a replacement for our VCR and I wanted a “all in one” box that would act as:
  • DVR
  • Play on-line streaming content (HULU, Netflix, Amazon)
  • Play DVD’s
  • Play music / photos

My HTPC does all this and runs comskip, so I have not seen a commercial in years.

Today you could likely come close with a two box solution, a BR player with streaming capability and a channel master DVR
post #3 of 13
Windows 7 Media Center
Blu-Ray playback
Digital cablecard tuners
Full HD audio

These are but a few things that have evolved since your early HTPC days.
post #4 of 13
Yes, perfecting DVD playback was the main goal back in those days. Now we put much more demanding tasks on our HTPCs.

1. HD video playback (ripped and re-encoded BluRay)
2. HD TV recording and playback (world-class DVR, OTA, Satellite and CableCard)
3. HD Audio (latest audio codecs)
4. Streaming Video and Audio from internet (Netflix, Hulu, ESPN 3, Pandora, etc.)
5. Still just a good DVD playback (maybe even a bit better than a decade ago due to better GPUs and video renderers.)
6. Media Collection/Aggregation (My Movies, MediaBrowser, etc.)
7. Photo showoff (modern day equivilent to vacation slide shows)
8. 3D video
9. Frame Interpolation that is as good or better than the 120Hz TVs on the market.

And the list goes on.
post #5 of 13
Whole media entertainment system.

5 TV's, all run off HTPC, and get:

Encrypted cable content
Ability to pause, rewind and record the said content
Digital library (music, movies, recorded TV, pictures) access at every TV
On-line content (HULU, Netflix, Amazon...)

Saves money.

HTPC with 4 Media Center extenders: $1000

Cable Company DVR with 4 additional boxes: $60 - $80/month. HTPC paid it self off in a little over a year.
post #6 of 13
Mine is for DVR use. The cable companies DVR are slow, unreliable, buggy, overpriced pieces of junk. Paying $40+ a month for two of these junkers got old. Now I have a smooth running reliable HTPC that can store much more media and with a much better interface that is a pleasure to use.
post #7 of 13
WMC makes everything else look like garbage and you dont have to pay $20 a month for it.

Consolidating everything from games, movies, to TV into one unit is great.
post #8 of 13
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Originally Posted by blueiedgod View Post

Whole media entertainment system.

5 TV's, all run off HTPC, and get:

Encrypted cable content
Ability to pause, rewind and record the said content
Digital library (music, movies, recorded TV, pictures) access at every TV
On-line content (HULU, Netflix, Amazon...)

Saves money.

HTPC with 4 Media Center extenders: $1000

Cable Company DVR with 4 additional boxes: $60 - $80/month. HTPC paid it self off in a little over a year.


Is there an Amazon video plugin available for WMC or are you talking about the website via an internet browser?
post #9 of 13
Goto Amazon's site and you can download their Unbox software. Then add the download folder for unbox to your movie library.

Now every time you download a movie from Amazon (*NOTE:* Download this does not work with streaming) that movie will appear in your WMC Movies section.
post #10 of 13
No stand-alone box do ISO.
Unbelievably my brand new "smart" BR player doesn't do DVD+/-R.
That "smart" BR and also my "smart" TV hold me over but the interfaces are really jokes, I have to scroll pages through pages to find the file I want to play.

But it doesn't have to be either or, we can have both right.
post #11 of 13
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Originally Posted by bens View Post

Cost has always been a big reason of course.

... can I just buy a $99 box that does 90% of what I want? But HTPC will always be providing that last 10%-- innovation that some old rich guy can swipe and patent and burn into the firmware of tomorrow's $99 box!

If you don't need live TV on the same box (who doesn't have a way to get that somehow ... some way) , then for that 90% ... check of the new WD Live SMP for $90. You can have that up and running in a matter of minutes.

But for that extra 10% and unlimited custom functionality ... HTPC is the only way to go, IMO.
post #12 of 13
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Originally Posted by MrBobb View Post

No stand-alone box do ISO.

really?
I am sure all the Dune & PCH users will be disappointed to find out they need to stop doing ISO...
post #13 of 13
I can't speak for everyone, but for me...

-I got tired of monkeying around with Comcast. I got tired of having to renegotiate my bill every six months when my "promotion" would end.

-Related to the first, I got tired of paying over $100/month for something I would only use for a few hours on the weekend. The main thing I "gave up" was having a big guide to look through - usually never finding anything I really wanted to watch. We would DVR the shows we want to watch, but could only watch them in one room, unless we wanted to pay ANOTHER fee. $110/month for that crap.

-I got tired of the overly compressed HD, which hardly seemed to be like HD at all in some cases.

-I was in the market for a new PC anyway as my last one was about seven years old. Why not knock out two birds with one stone?

-I am a big fan of tweaks and customization. I love that my system is 100% unique. Nobody has a setup quite like mine. Similar, but not the same at all. I love that my TV has a 100% unique look that I personally coded that displays date, time (digital and analog), todays weather and three day forecast. I love that the screensaver is the WMC slideshow that shows pictures of my family, and that I can let it run when company is over. I love that I have a dedicated iPhone as a remote, and the remote controls literally everything from my TV to video functions (menu navigation, play/pause, etc), my AVR, my bedroom TV, and all PC functions, and it is one-of-a-kind because it was designed by my graphic designer wife. I love the time I put into figuring out how to accomplish everything I wanted to as far as functionality, and that it works nearly perfectly. I. Love. It.

-I love that my entire movie/TV collection is just a few clicks away, and that my DVDs are upscaled and look great.

-I love that in my copy of Ides of March, I have it set up to display my sister in the cast, right next to George Clooney (she was an extra).

-I love checking AVS every couple of days to see if there is something new to check out or tweak. I also love Assassin for making his guide which is worth every penny and is awesome.

-I love that when my friends/family are over they look at me like I'm some kind of tech guru when really I'm just a guy with some basic knowledge and intuition. And I love it when I show them how it works an that look of intimidation disappears because they see how easy it is.



I could keep going. All-in-all, I just love every bit of it. Especially that it will have paid for itself in about another 4 months. AND I love my wife for letting me do it all
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