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post #1141 of 1582
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Originally Posted by Highjinx View Post

Zombie10k...I sure hope these projector manufactures are giving you major discounts on their products.....you have inspired many(my self included) to make purchases

that would be nice but I pay the same price as everyone else . smile.gif It's been a lot of fun comparing the different model.


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Originally Posted by RickAVManiac View Post

This projector seem really interesting for a 3D duty. I've read that it's now Zombie prefered 3D projector for is room.

I was interested myself but just found a review that mention no frame interpolation at all eek.gif

Zombie, you prefer the Sharp over the BenQ 7000 even if the Z30000 have no frame interpolation?

Rick, Hi I prefer the 30K over the W7000 even without the FI. I'm not sure what kind of pull down they are doing, but it's very good processing and motion isn't an issue in 3D, it looks quite smooth. The major benefit over the BQ is the contrast in 3D, it's really a noticeable difference in a direct A/B comparison. I think it's partly due to the DC3 vs. DC2 but primarily IR vs. DLP Link. I'd did some tests a while back with the Acer 5360 which can use IR or DLP Link and it's easy to see how much better the IR is with perceived contrast. The DLP flash signal IMO is hurting the contrast.

The caveat is that it's not a light canon, we're only looking at ~700 lumens in 3D mode, so it's best matched with a high power screen. The Sharp G20 glasses are the icing on the cake, without a doubt the best 3D glasses I've used and I've tested quite a few.

one other benefit is inexpensive factory lamps. Rarely can we hunt down the real original lamp, but it's available for the 30k for a great price.

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Originally Posted by Willie View Post

I can't speak for Zombie, however the 30K provides the the nicest 3D I have ever seen. That would include the W7000 and W1070. Did not see any need for frame interpolation; motion is smooth without it. FWIW, I watch 3D ripped to mkv using a Mede8er.

+1, The Sharp 30k has some of the best 3D i've seen yet in my HT for any of the under 10K projectors. it's likely going to exceed even the expensive VW1000 in 1 critical area for those who are sensitive to flicker.

I'm convinced that flicker (whether obvious to the viewer or not) is one of the root causes of eye fatigue with the active shutter glasses.

Mitsubishi HC5

Sony HW50

BenQ W7000/Sharp 30k

The DLP image is as solid in 3D as it is in 2D so when we put the glasses on, there is no flicker and the image is easier on the eyes than the non DLP models.

In this regard from worst to best:

JVC < Sony HW30/50/95 = Mitsubishi HC5/HC9000 < Epson 5020 ~ Panasonic 8000 < BenQ W7000 / Sharp 30K .

The 30K's high speed color wheel also makes RBE practically non-existent in 3D mode, even for those who are highly sensitive.
post #1142 of 1582
someone just got a heck of a deal on a brand new 30K on ebay. Hopefully someone from the forums.
post #1143 of 1582
It wasn't me.
post #1144 of 1582
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Originally Posted by zombie10k View Post

someone just got a heck of a deal on a brand new 30K on ebay. Hopefully someone from the forums.

Ug..mad.gif

What you talkin bout? Don't see any new sold listings ..
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Item # 400514693635
post #1146 of 1582
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Originally Posted by airscapes View Post

Ug..mad.gif

What you talkin bout? Don't see any new sold listings ..

I don't know where it went but I remember seeing one that's bid was around $1200 a few days ago.
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Is there a service menu to get into and tweak settings more?
post #1149 of 1582
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Originally Posted by biliam1982 View Post

Is there a service menu to get into and tweak settings more?

that's a good question. airscapes sent me some codes from other sharp models to try out, but I didn't have any luck. I would have a field day with this projector if there was some tinkering to be done in the SM.
post #1150 of 1582
In some post I read that if the lens cap was put on then the lenshift not working.

But I guess you can move first the lens with lenshift and then put the lens cap once it is focused.
Or once I use lenshift then I can not put the lens cap?

Thanks
Edited by fpr - 6/28/13 at 12:38am
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Originally Posted by fpr View Post

In some post I read that if the lens cap was put on then the lenshift not working.

But I guess you can move first the lens with lenshift and then put the lens cap once it is focused.
Or once I use lenshift then I can not put the lens cap?

Thanks

I have no problem using lens shift, be it horizontal or vertical, w/ the lens cap on.

It's just a piece of plastic w/ a clear plastic piece for the light to shine through.

Where it snaps in, I can't see any sensors that would be needed for the projector to tell if it was on and be able to turn off the lens shift.
post #1152 of 1582
The new arrival is in the bottom bunk.....eye on a 106" and 92" HP...2.4/2.8 respectively.

Tweak fest ahead.......the Sharp's 3D brightness from behind the glasses is on par with the JVC's (HD750/RS20) 2D with iris on -15.

Thanks Zombie10k....for taking the time to provide valuable info.....manufacturers....give this man some discounts!






Having some sync issues....will experiment with emmiter angle/placement.
post #1153 of 1582
Hi, that's a great looking dual projector setup. Can you tell me about this mount? is the top piece suspended from the ceiling?

Do you have the G20 glasses as well, or just the original that shipping (G10) ?
post #1154 of 1582
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Originally Posted by zombie10k View Post

Hi, that's a great looking dual projector setup. Can you tell me about this mount? is the top piece suspended from the ceiling?

Do you have the G20 glasses as well, or just the original that shipping (G10) ?

Thanks Zombie.....the mount I designed with the JVC HD100/RS2 in mind and had built, all solid aluminium construction, except for the handles(stainless steel) and service platform tracks. It's built like a tank. Originally the plan was to have the top section purely suspended from the ceiling, Peerless tube and other bits were used to secure the projector cradle/mount to the ceiling using threaded rods and KD hard wood above the joists etc, rock solid....except when the service platform was brought into the service position, the cradle would rock about 20degrees. So I decided to add the bottom supports.

Cradle: I'm sure I have the drawings somewhere!





With Epson TW2000(as the JVC RS2 had no CMS!) in 2008 front view:



Got the G20 glasses as well....charging as I type!


The other end:



Twin Screen in action:

Edited by Highjinx - 6/29/13 at 8:38pm
post #1155 of 1582
wow that is a great dual screen setup! The whole setup looks clean and professionally built. Which screen are you using with the Sharp?

I've been playing around with some contrast measurements on the 30K and found some interesting behavior with the 2nd iris. It seems to behave more like a fixed iris vs. dynamic (despite the diagram below). It noticeably lowers the black floor measures without the side effects of the typical DI. With my recent room blackout, it's easy to see iris pumping on the HP screen.

sharp-iris-4.jpg

I've looked around but can't find much info about this iris design they are using.
post #1156 of 1582
Thanks...I can use either...but ATM with the 106" 2.4.

It's on HC mode, high lamp, switching to low lamp, is a bit dimmer, prefer the high lamp with the glasses....the projector is too bright without the glasses with those screen sizes, so no 2D, that's the JVC's forte anyway.

Had to build new speakers as the larger screen blocked most of the sound of the original ESS speakers, so I used the same mid and high frequency drivers and needed slim bass drivers, so I used Tymphany LAT 8ohm 2 per side (the last new ones on the planet I was told!)

Interesting info on the iris, so far I haven't noticed iris in action....perhaps in the HC mode due to the lower light level reaching the screen, the dynamic iris's action is less pronounced?
post #1157 of 1582
with the 3D mode, I run it in Stage setting, high brightness on the first iris and the 2nd iris set to 'ON'.

I was watching the dark scenes in Jurassic Park tonight to tune the gamma settings in 3D. The overall perceived contrast in 3D is surprisingly good for a DC3 DLP.

The color saturation in this stage mode is a bit hot, I pulled down the color control to -5 to tame it a bit and it looks good with this setting.

Let me know how the G20 glasses work for you. I like switching back and forth between the 2D and 3D switch. It makes me appreciate the decent conversion they did with JP.
post #1158 of 1582
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Originally Posted by zombie10k View Post

I've been playing around with some contrast measurements on the 30K and found some interesting behavior with the 2nd iris. It seems to behave more like a fixed iris vs. dynamic (despite the diagram below). It noticeably lowers the black floor measures without the side effects of the typical DI. With my recent room blackout, it's easy to see iris pumping on the HP screen.

So are you saying that you don't see brightness pumping? I've been watching TV on my Z30k to break it in, and I can easily see brightness pumping on a dark show like True Blood.
post #1159 of 1582
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Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post

So are you saying that you don't see brightness pumping? I've been watching TV on my Z30k to break it in, and I can easily see brightness pumping on a dark show like True Blood.

I see it occasionally, but I really have to look for it.

It depends on the material and it's pretty rare.

Even when I do see it, it's very subtle and doesn't bother me too much.
post #1160 of 1582
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Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post

So are you saying that you don't see brightness pumping? I've been watching TV on my Z30k to break it in, and I can easily see brightness pumping on a dark show like True Blood.

I'm mainly using this projector for 3D and cannot detect the iris in this mode. I watched some regular TV last night and didn't see it. My large HP screen + blacked out rooms makes it easy to see on the HW50. I'll look at it closer with lower APL content in 2D mode.
post #1161 of 1582
I saw that someone had problems of synchronization with Sharp IR emitter and glasses.

How is the Sharp IR emitter compared to the JVC IR emitter ?

I have a JVC RS45 and I am considering purchasing the Sharp. With the JVC emitter never had problems in my Home Theater room.

Thanks.
post #1162 of 1582
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Originally Posted by fpr View Post

I saw that someone had problems of synchronization with Sharp IR emitter and glasses.

How is the Sharp IR emitter compared to the JVC IR emitter ?

I have a JVC RS45 and I am considering purchasing the Sharp. With the JVC emitter never had problems in my Home Theater room.

Thanks.

each room will be different, but I have the 30K ~ 17 feet from my 142" HP screen with the sender sitting on top of the projector, close to the edge of the front. I haven't experienced any IR dropout with the G20 glasses. I haven't really tried the glasses it came with because I find them to be a bit too small.
post #1163 of 1582
So just an update on my repair situation. Sharp has zero parts in stock to repair an XV-Z30000 projector. They would previously issue you a refurbished model as a replacement which, in my experience, was never refurbished as the one I received was broken on arrival. I was issued another RMA 3 weeks ago and sent in the refurbished model for repair. Got a call that 'We do not have parts or a refurbished model to send you'. I have called for the past 2 weeks on status and each time was told 'Waiting for upper management to tell us what to do'.

Called today and was told that the upper management person in charge was out of office until Monday. As this has pissed me off that I paid for a new projector that was broken, replaced with a refurbished model that was also broken, I open a BBB complaint on the situation. If there isn't any reconciliation by middle of next week my Attorney General will be getting a phone call.
post #1164 of 1582
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Originally Posted by almostinsane View Post

So just an update on my repair situation. Sharp has zero parts in stock to repair an XV-Z30000 projector. They would previously issue you a refurbished model as a replacement which, in my experience, was never refurbished as the one I received was broken on arrival. I was issued another RMA 3 weeks ago and sent in the refurbished model for repair. Got a call that 'We do not have parts or a refurbished model to send you'. I have called for the past 2 weeks on status and each time was told 'Waiting for upper management to tell us what to do'.

Called today and was told that the upper management person in charge was out of office until Monday. As this has pissed me off that I paid for a new projector that was broken, replaced with a refurbished model that was also broken, I open a BBB complaint on the situation. If there isn't any reconciliation by middle of next week my Attorney General will be getting a phone call.

WOW!!! That's horrible. Sorry to hear about your troubles. eek.gif

Makes me wonder if all the Groupon/Woot deals were to clear out inventory and now there's no stock left. What will they do for others in the future? confused.gif

Maybe we'll get lucky and they'll have a new FPJ @ CEDIA to give out as replacements. biggrin.gif
post #1165 of 1582
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Originally Posted by biliam1982 View Post

WOW!!! That's horrible. Sorry to hear about your troubles. eek.gif

Makes me wonder if all the Groupon/Woot deals were to clear out inventory and now there's no stock left. What will they do for others in the future? confused.gif

Maybe we'll get lucky and they'll have a new FPJ @ CEDIA to give out as replacements. biggrin.gif

+1 on biliam's sentiments.
I'm sure that he speaks for all of us.
Please keep us posted on your progress. The three year warranty was a big reason that I took a chance on this one. Sharp is not a JCL company. They have been around the block a few times...
I hope it gets resolved soon. smile.gif
post #1166 of 1582
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Originally Posted by almostinsane View Post

my Attorney General will be getting a phone call.

What state are you in?
post #1167 of 1582
Washington.
post #1168 of 1582

According to the sad story you no longer have the original or any projector. Simply call your credit card company and they will freeze the purchase price. Unless you receive a projector you are happy with either return it or refuse shipment. As long as they have the goods you will receive a full refund. Some credit card companies (mine has in the past) will even give you an account credit to offset the return shipping (if it was on your dime).

post #1169 of 1582
Funny you post that - I did just that 10 minutes ago.
post #1170 of 1582
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Originally Posted by biliam1982 View Post


Makes me wonder if all the Groupon/Woot deals were to clear out inventory and now there's no stock left. What will they do for others in the future? confused.gif

I expressed these concerns early on in the thread. Their financial situation and obvious exit from the front projector HT market makes it a bit of a risk. After the holiday week, I would have given it 1 more shot to escalate and see if someone there will do the right thing.

understood on the frustration of the situation though, so if the CC: company helps, that is good news. It's likely WOOT bought the remaining stock, they had the least expensive price by $400 vs. the typical ebay sales.
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