Sharp XV-Z30000 3D DLP - Page 8

I'm sure the Runco and other very high priced projectors get the best of care over the lets get some numbers sold projectors. Good for the Runco owners.

One thing I can tell future Z30000 owners. I don't know if there's a .65 dark chip 3 but if there is I suspect it's in their machine. I can't get the details but if they focus their projector to it's best and go up to the screen. If the lines around each pixel are extremely tight / thin then it's a Dark chip 3. That's what I see on my Z17000. This was the first thing we all noticed when the DC3s first appeared.
Edited by guitarman - 3/16/13 at 1:09am

It depends on which Runco and which part you are speaking of, these come from DLP kits MFR'd by a bunch of unpronouncable Tawianese and Chinese manufacturers which source parts for the kits that are based on TI's designs of how to build DLP's. They copy the TI designs, then the "named MFR's" re-spec customizations and Mods back to them. Yes, some of the these PJ's share parts and what not, but there are variances in the designs and lenses as they are re-spec'd by Americans/Japanese and sometimes European engineers back to the Chinese/Taiwanese/Malaysia OEM manufacturers.

The biggest difference is the LENS, DLP Chip, the color wheels, and the software / firmware.
Edited by coderguy - 3/16/13 at 1:37am

I edited my previous post to be careful, you get what I mean now.

The Runco is .95" for what it matters, but the reason I think the Runco is better is just from people that have compared it in the forums have generally said that. Until I've compared a Runco and hd8600/hd87 myself, why would I disagree with the majority, I won't. I agree they are high-priced, but you said the best DLP was the hd8600, not the best under a certain price.

I was thinking more the best under $10,000.

Just wanted the new Sharp owners to know it was such a sharp detailed image with great blacks and detail in blacks like the HD8600. But with a even better dynamic black tuning. It surprised me also.

Somebody out there can make a great DLP projector when they want to. Thanks who ever you are. Little devils

That's cool, .65" DC 3 is good, but the one lacking thing on the Sharp is lack of FI in 3d and no Triple Flash, and not as bright as some other 3D projectors. If I were buying a single projector solution, 2D is definitely more important anyways. Sounds like it has really good blacks though and a very sharp image, and it's at a great price.

It's also really loaded feature-wise with all the motorized functions. I would love to try one out.

I get 1230 lumens for 3d on a 106" screen which is pretty good. I'll have to check the light drop with the tone of the glasses which does seem lighter than the HD3300 I tested. I'll post that up when I find out.

It's been fun chatting with ya, but it's late I'm smoking my cigars by the fireplace sippin a little wine, watching a blu ray 24 episode. It's about time to check out. 2am cal time.

Love this high end video stuff. enjoy
Edited by guitarman - 3/16/13 at 1:52am

The Sharp is better otherwise though, at least it sounds like it.

If this projector had been available at that price when I ordered the Benq, I would have bought the Sharp instead most likely, if I knew now what we know now
We didn't know now then, what we know right now, now, if you get my drift...
Edited by coderguy - 3/16/13 at 3:26am

I watched Life of Pi on my new Z30000 last night. This is a very nice projector for the money. I found the brightness just right on my 120" screen using Movie 1 mode with Iris 1- High Contrast, Iris 2-On. The picture is pretty sharp and I haven't hooked the Darbee to it yet.
This projector is as RBE-free as you can get. I saw maybe 2 rainbows the whole movie and they are very very minor. Honestly I forgot I was watching a DLP.. The 2D picture quality is super silky and smooth; very HW30-like like someone mentioned before.

Thanks for the review.
Please let us know how it works with the Darbee.

What other projectors did you have in the past to compare it to? I'd like some frame of reference to know how the contrast / black floor is in comparison to some of the other models. The HC8000 by all accounts should have been very good with it's specs, but I was let down by the black floor in comparison to the HW50 and the Epson 5020, let alone the JVC which was on another planet compared to the HC800 in regard to contrast / black floor.

How are the included 3D glasses?

I had the 8500UB and the black floor is similiar. The Z30000 has much higher intra-scene contrast. The blacks is not close to 5020, HW50, RS45 but my environment is not optimum (family room with white ceiling and tan/brown walls and carpets). This projector is perfect for hi-power screens as the lens center is aligned to screen center. Oh, this projector can do 1080p/24 just fine.

I will try this projector next IF I can sell my w7000 for a decent price and IF and WHEN I do sell it I can still get the Sharp at a good price at that time. Looks interesting.
I don't actually need the 3D as bright as some anyhow, using a 106" HP screen still.

thanks for the feedback. With my recently blacked out room, average contrast / black floor has become very noticeable to me know. There is an obvious difference between the W7000 and the 5020/HW50 in regard to black level performance in 3D mode.

Even the well spec'd HC8000 was a let down, it wasn't in the same range as the HW50/5020. I don't expect the Z30000 will be much better in this regards vs the HC8000.

I'm trying to figure out what my next 3D projector will be. slight crosstalk / flicker but very good contrast / black floor or average black level performance, but solid flicker / crosstalk performance.

I think historically speaking the Sharp IRIS's have been better than the Mits IRIS's.
Not sure about on/off between the two.

My Z30000 is extremely tight/ thin as you described; very similar to JVC Dila. The fill ratio is very high for this projector.

The Sharp's IRIS is excellent. I couldn't detect any pumping while watching Life of Pi. The 2D picture quality is extremely smooth and solid. Will test 3D soon.

Might as well ask for an opinion here. I am choosing between DNP Supernova 08-85 and 23-23 for this projector. The screen will be 16:9 84". My main concern is that 3D isn't going to be bright enough on 08-85 screen (having 0.8 gain). What do you think?

Then it's a DC3 for sure.

With all the experts here and industry insiders, how do we not know yet if it has a DC3 or not?

Not sure about industry insiders on this forum relative to Sharp projectors. There is nothing anywhere in Sharp's marketing literature or manuals to identify which DLP chip is used in the 30000.

I am not an expert. Speaking for myself, the Sharp offers a more pleasing 3D image and fluid display than the BenQ 1070 and 7000. As always YMMV.

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I'll bet you're right on that conclusion. These sharps are pretty hot, wow great 2D and great 3D what more can you want. Reliable most likely but I still have a 3yr warranty. One thing I know about the more recent DLPs is the colorwheel technology has advanced. No more glued to a slab color panels, now they are clamped in a wheel case from both sides. My engineer buddy explained this to me when I complained about 3 sharp z2000 with shattered pains from being just glued at one side. It was really an Achilles heel for the very old models. Glad they fixed that all up. Now you have DLP's that can crank and crank some more. The DLP chip isn't going to degrade, image and color will remain intact.

Makes sense, a lot of manufacturers now have better color wheel designs, color wheel failures are now (thankfully) VERY rare. The Sharp sounds good with better contrast, I would love to grab one if I can get one under 2k.

Well the previous Z17000 has it. So why would they downgrade. I asked owners to eyeball the border around each pixel as being super thin. This is a way to detect if it's DC3. Owners concluded the fill is extremely thin, so it's a DC3 no downgrade. Which makes sense.

I would hope so, my SP-7210 is a DC3 and that was a model 8 years ago!.....I got a new AVR with a HDMI switch built in and I cannot get the HDMI sources to play except for one. Not sure if it is a handshake issue or what. The Z30K is most likely my next upgrade so waiting on the next sale.

I watched some 3D Hugo and Avengers tonight on my 120" WA DW screen. Really good 3D with excellent blacks and contrast on Hugo. I am using Dynamic mode/ with Iris-High Brightness and brightness is not an issue. I think it's pumping out around 400 lumens. I am very happy with this projector for 2D and 3D. It's a very balanced projector like the HW50.

Just figure the sq ft of your 120" screen and work off the 37ft candles I got in dynamic same stetup high lamp, bright boost on. That 37ft candles gave me 1230 lumens off a 106" screen so figure at least I'm viewing 615 lumens for 3D, maybe more because the tint on the sharp glasses seems much lighter then the Optoma glasses I tested on the HD3300. TIme the sq ft by the 37ft candels you'll get your lumens.

I'm preparing to set up the 3D system on the Sharp.
I would like to put the 3D emitter up by the projector and not have to run cable across the cathedral ceiling to another location.
Has anyone tried a long throw (perhaps 20 feet) ceiling mount, bouncing the 3D IR system off the screen to reach the seating area?
Will the reflected IR fill the room with a strong signal, even if it's not directly in a line of site from the transmitter?
Thanks:)

Why don't you try it and tell us?

20 feet isn't considered a crazy distance to throw an image. You should be fine with the IR emitter.