Sharp XV-Z30000 3D DLP - Page 34

I beg to differ.
The Z30K has very good lens shift for a DLP. You can place the center of the lens anywhere below the top edge of the screen and be OK. That's where ours is now...
Also, if you need maximum gain, then getting the location near the center of the High Power screen (and close to eye level) is important. However, you will get a gain boost with a ceiling mount on the High Power. Each situation is a little different, but I've read 1.3 to 1.4 gain, and on our set up, it seems about this much. It's almost too bright in Movie 1, but OK in Stage (3D).

Yes, that is what I said,, within the screen.. not below or above..
I do not really agree with your statement about gain from a ceiling mounted projector and an HP screen unless you have a long drop poll. I have been using the HP screen for 3 years and any more the 24" over you head and the gain is gone.. at least with the 2.8 which I have, and I have test the 2.4 which in my book is even more narrow as there is less gain to start with. Anyway not the thread to debate the HP.
Just moved mine to a 48" tall cabinet that should just about center it but it is now going to be father out of my visual plane when reclined than when table mounted.. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr . Guess I will have to build something so I can have an adjustable shelf. I also noticed the focus issue I had read about where you are real sharp on one side and not the other when I had it close to max shift. I hope that is reduce when I am in the center with little to no shift.

The 2.4 gain starts out less, but it actually drops off way slower than the 2.8 gain. If he mounted the PJ just below the top of the screen, he is getting some decent gain usually, depends on how high his screen is off the ground, how high he sits, and all that jazz.

I'm on the edge about ordering the Z30000. A few questions for those have a better grasp than I. (please note if you've seen any of these models first hand)

A little background. I have light controlled black/brown room theater room. Black ceiling and front wall, Dark brown carpet with lighter brown side walls. The first 4.5ft from the screen will be blacked out on the side walls. I sit about 12.5ft back. I can mount the Z30K directly in the middle or near the top of my screen (mostly likely near the top) at 18ft. I'm satisfied with the brightness my Sanyo PLV-Z000 outputs on a 92" in Eco mode (new bulb)... but.....

1: Lumens: I've already built the false wall/frame for a 138" CIH (2.35:1) Spandex (White/Silver) acoustically transparent screen. I'm not a brightness freak by any means (sensitive eyes) but I do like the image to retain a certain level of "Pop". Will this size/AT screen lose too many lumens with the Z30K? I'm guessing it will be fine on 2D, but 2.35:1 3D might be a bit much at 138"? I may have to use lens memory to downsize it to 16x9"?. My only other CIH choices would be JVC's RS40, RS45, RS46, Panasonic's PT-AE8000 and Mitsubishi's HC5 (motorized lens workaround). My concerns are JVC's bulbs and the poor 3D. As well as Panasonic's PT-AE8000 non-sealed light path (aka dust blobs).

2: Black Level: Do I have this down in order? Deeper blacks to lighter? JVC DLA-RS46, Epson 5020UB, Sony VPL-HW50ES, Panasonic PT-AE8000 < followed closely by > Mitsubishi HC5, Sony VPL-HW30ES < followed closely by > Sharp XV-Z30000? (Black levels are important to me, but I'm guessing any of these would be a nice step up over my PLV-Z2000. I assume I'd be happy with any of them *hoping*

3: Operating Cost: What is the lowest cost people have encountered for Z30000 original OEM bulbs?

Bottom line: This year I was going to go all out, but to get a projector that does nearly everything right is going to put me way above what I'd like to spend. I might as well wait a few more years with a stepping-stone projector that will hold me over until 4K comes down to real world pricing. I'm stuck between two poisons (Sharp's great 3D and satisfactory black levels or JVC's great black levels and laughable 3D) ... I put black levels above 3D, but having great 3D is something I would like to have as well.. Wow factor for guests. I'm also a sharpness freak and that's another talking point for the Z30K ... I hate tough decisions

edit: Looks as though the Mitsubishi HC5 is on my watch list with it's motorized lens.. decisions... decisions
Edited by saginawjuggalo - Yesterday at 3:36 pm

Is the Woot deal still available? Does anyone have a link to it? Just curious. Thanks.

In my setup, the Sharp 30K is ~ 16 feet from my 142" 16:9. I measured ~950 D65 lumens in Stage Mode. Sony HW50 is ~1000, BQ W7000 is ~1100 and Epson 5020 in the torch mode can be tamed to near D65 @ ~1200 lumens.

For 3D, I calibrate behind the glasses which does cost some lumens. 30k = ~600, HW50 = ~800, BQ W7000 = ~900, 5020 = ~ 1000.

This gives you some frame of reference between some of the popular models.The W7000 is a comparable price point with the benefits of some extra lumens vs. a noticeable contrast difference . The contrast difference is mainly seen during dark scenes in a lights out scenario. This is a tough price point $1799 since there isn't a lot of competition here. mid 2k+ for the entry JVC, 5020 and 3K+ for the HW50.


@ josh - 1 day left. ..

http://moofi.woot.com/offers/sharp-full-hd-3d-2d-dlp-projector-3

Hmm, 138" 2.35 with no gain, errr, I think you are ok I guess with the Sharp but you might prefer it in its brighter modes. At least the Sharp has "ok looking" near absolute brightest mode according to Art @ PR. I personally wouldn't do a 1.0 gain screen that large with any of these projectors other than a Sony vw1000es, but that's just me.

I think more than likely it goes like this:
JVC > Sony hw50 >= Mits 9000d (not sure if sony really beats it, maybe not) > Sony hw30 >= Epson 5020 > Panasonic PT-AE8000 > Sharp xvz-30000

We will know for sure after Zombie tests the hc5 / hc9000d in an A/B.
Edited by coderguy - Yesterday at 2:25 pm

One question. To not use this projector lens shift we place:

- In the middle of the screen respect to the horizontal
- At the top or bottom of the screen respect to the vertically.

Is this correct?

To not use lens shift the projector gets placed dead center of the screen.