Sharp 2012 models - Page 3

some hints say the 4k will be the revised "elite" series. all speculation of course.

Why is it, the only thing I can find on the Sharp 9 series is the paragraph in the first post? Didn't someone see it at CES? Why hasn't anyone reported on the PQ?

I would assume this 9 series will see some "hand me downs" from the Elite? If that is the case it could be the bargain of the year...or am I mistaken?

IF it bests the PQ of all the sets except the Elite (and perhaps the OLED options late year) that looks like a major win for Sharp, especially considering their pricing is at premium levels like Sony for example.

Can anyone tell me if there is going to be an entry level 80 inch or only the $6,500 model 844?

That sounds very possible to me- especially if Sharp wants to continue the Elite brand. They have already announced bringing local dimming to "regular" Sharp TV's. Giving the Elite 4K capabilities would enable them to continue to differentiate the Elite brand.

Yes- it's already out (pre CES). This is the 632U model. It lists for $5K, but can be had for less. Check out the dedicated thread for that model:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1363281

I asked because the first post in this thread seems to list the 2012 lineup and the 632 isn't mentioned. So, I wasn't sure if the 632 would be continued or if Sharp is trying to take the 80 inch model upmarket with only the $6,500 944 model being available (once the 632's sell out).

Unless the 944 turns out to be killer, I could probably be very happy with the 632 for $1,000 or more less than the 944.

Good Thinking! In my mind, the main reason for getting the LC-80LE844U is for 3D (which I personally care little about). It does remain to be seen what other visible increase in performance the 844 offers- it is a Quattron panel. I'll keep an open mind. The local dimming 80" might be much more of an upgrade- but when and at what cost?

I don't see how they can make the Elite in any way other than 4k. Sharp will have 4k this year. Not having it on the Elite would make the Elite seem very second best.

so besides the 2012 Elite, what upcoming non-Elite model is the closest to the Elite in terms of PQ?

I meant what upcoming (non-Elite) Sharp model in 2012 is closest to the Elite?...seems like Sharp is releasing a slew of new TV's in 2012 and some of them sound promising

It's 945, not 934. But yes, it will be close to the Elite. That said, probably no THX, ISF modes and maybe no IVC.

So with the 945 coming out we should see a nice decrease in price maybe for the 735u...

Just getting my hopes up

I would be interested to hear your thoughts on the Elite's handling of motion and how this may impact the 934 and how the 934's overall PQ could get some "trickle down".

As you may remember I contacted you last year regarding the 929 and the VT30, ultimately decided I wanted something that was 60 inches, as stepping up 5 inches from my 5080 made it not worth it.

So I didn't buy anything. I'm waiting to see what 60's are available this year. The Elite is sick but I don't want to spend 4000+ on a set. I figure the 60 inch 9 series will MSRP for somewhere around 3,500 to 4,000 and street price after a couple months significantly lower.

Which means if I get a PQ jump AND 10 more inches I'd probably make leap.

It can now be had for MUCH less. Check the thread in the LCD deals forum area...


It also supposedly uses a 240 native panel as opposed to creating it via processing (which of course many people hate the look of).

If true, this might be a significant difference!

Yup in the press release they didn't delve, but they refer to it as a "new" panel that's 240, *and* there was no mention of aqua option plus or whatever they called the processing in the 2011 '240' sets. I am cautiously optimistic although based on current street pricing on the existing 80" I may not be able to wait too much longer.

I read that the 9 series will have something similar (if not the same) as IVS (or IVC).

It apparently uses something called micro-dimming, which Sharp is being reticent about regarding how many zones of dimming. Do you have any idea?

I don't hear about any improvements in off angle viewing.

Does Sharp do in-plane-switching?

- Rich

I thought only LG (and Vizio) currently use IPS panels.

I"m not a TV expert, but I've had my eyes on a large screen TV from Sharp (because of their low price/good quality) and I went to CES hoping to see the 80" 3D on display (guessing that they would have it), which they did, but the picture quality just wasn't as good as other large displays from LG or Samsung.

The Sharps just looked "dull" compared to the other TVs. It could be because of the matt screens as the new 70" 945 which has a glossy screen did look good, but still not as good as the Samsung.

I think that I'll need to postpone my purchase until these sets hit the streets, but I'm guessing that Sharp will still be the best choice when comparing price vs quality.

It's my understanding that Microdimming and Local Dimming are completely different? Local dimming actually dims or shuts off an LED behind a specified area of the screen. Micro dimming is for edge lit sets that can actually shut off or dim certain sections of that edge light?

The 9 series is supposed to be local dimmed (the better of the two solutions). Is "Micro dimming" being thrown around in a different context now?

Just remember, Sharp actually has 70 & 80 inch TVs on the market.

Samsung has barely managed a small and limited release and their quality has been spotty at best. At CES they hand pick their displays and Samsung is a master of putting on a good show.

They had both.

To me, unless you wanted 3D, the 632 looked just fine.

Michael

if you have the links, please post them

Check out page 7 of Home Theater's 2012 CES coverage for starters. You'll find both the 4K and 80" local dimming teasers there. There are some other interviews..... CNET maybe? I'm in CES overload, and after a couple of bottles of wine, I thought I was lucky to "re-find" the ones in Home Theater mag.

Were you at CES and saw the 80 inch 632 and 844 together for comparison ?

Cheers
Davyo

I don't know. The marketnews article I read used the term microdimming in reference to the new models, which are full array backlit.

In one of the videos I saw, the Sharp Rep was reticent about how many dimming zones were being used. So I guess we'll have to wait.

But yes, it's a bit confusing.

I wish there was more info on the upcoming 9 series. Any impressions from those who saw one? Any pricing/ availability info?