Originally Posted by HLdan
Good for you. I'm not hating on the ST50 but some of the forum members here conveniently leave out important features in order to compare the GT50 with the ST50 so the ST50 comes out the clear winner. My favorite line, "Oh just calibrate the ST50 and it's a better choice over the GT50" Really, how so? How does calibrating the ST50 suddenly make it better than the GT50?
Everybody has different needs so please, to the people that don't find any use for the extra features of the GT50 don't make it sound like if you don't need it no one else does either.
For me connectivity is crucial when I'm spending money and the ST50 is limited against the GT50 and VT50. Also I have to look it daily and IMO the ST50 just looks cheap in comparison to how handsome and professional looking the GT50 and VT50 are. Understandably so since it's the entry level model in it's class. Right now the prices are coming down quite a bit on the GT50 so it makes it an easier choice over the ST50.
You're either taking my posts out of context (and I think that you are considering it's similar to my wording), or you're quoting someone else. What I said was, that a calibrated ST50 has better PQ than an uncalibrated
GT50 in THX mode (fact). The savings from the ST50 can be put towards a pro calibration. If you're calibrating an ST50 yourself and the additional features and aesthetics don't interest you, then I still think the ST50 is a better choice simply because it's cheaper.
That's why a calibrated ST50 is a better choice...
I don't know if you're including me in this, but to anyone who has asked, any of my posts recommending the ST50 over the GT50, I clearly state that I'm speaking in terms of PQ and that the only reason to get the GT50 is if you're not getting it calibrated, you prefer the styling, or the extra features interest you; so I'm not leaving anything out. I'm sure most people are aware of the differences between the two as far as features anyway... they're listed right on the Panasonic website. And I'm not going around telling people that the ST50 looks better aesthetically, nor am I going around criticizing people for purchasing a GT50; if you did, then I'm happy for you... you got a great set and you chose it for your own reasons. But if you're coming to AVS, then most likely you're asking about the PQ differences.
Everything I say is a fact and I'm simply giving my recommendation. Take it or leave it. Am I not allowed to give my opinion? If I came here asking this question, I'd be happy to know that I can save some money because the additional features don't appeal to me at all, and the miniscule differences in PQ after calibration aren't worth the extra money. I'd be happy to know that the money saved can go towards a calibration and that it will look better than an uncalibrated GT50. I would consider that good advice.
As a matter of fact, I'm in the same position... before I saw the calibration reports and reviews, I was set on buying a GT50. But because I'm calibrating my TV myself and the additional features don't appeal to me, I changed my mind.
Originally Posted by coolcoyote
Here's to hoping that the ST50 chest beaters eat some serious crow when D-Nice posts his GT50 calibration results and recommendations.
"If it's war they want... it's war they'll get!"
D-Nice is one of the "ST50 chest beaters", if by that you mean that he also recommends the ST50 over the GT50.
And we have already seen calibration reports for both sets. I wouldn't just go around saying what I do based on nothing.
The only reason people are arguing is because people are being defensive about their purchasing decisions when they shouldn't be... they have their reasons.