Originally Posted by HLdan
Okay, so what you're saying is a calibrated ST50 is better than an UNcalibrated GT50's THX modes? I haven't seen, nor do I know where D-NICE's information in regards to the calibration results are for the ST50 and GT50. So are you saying that D-NICE calibrated both models and saw zero difference? Or are you saying that he only calibrated the ST50 and found it equal to the GT50 uncalibrated? I'm just asking so you don't think I'm taking your words out of context.
. Also, you do realize that calibration isn't permanent and the THX modes are?
Since you don't believe what I say anyway, D-Nice has already answered this.
Also most of the time I don't see many post of people saying, "Could someone tell me the difference between the ST50 and the GT50 as far as PQ ONLY?" Most of the time question is "What's the difference between the ST50 and the GT50 or is it worth it to get the GT50?"
I didn't say anyone asked that question specifically, but why does it matter? I give my recommendation then give my reasoning for it and tell them the reasons to get a GT50 afterwards.
Usually the answers come from the ST50 owners and they only answer the question in regards to PQ. People do come here asking questions about the TV's for more than just about PQ. And as far as going to the Panasonic website to get all the specs, get over yourself. If people only did that a forum wouldn't necessarily be needed. Other than asking people's opinions on how well their TV is working the website can tell us everything according to you.
That may seem that way, because you're so defensive of the GT50. And FWIW, technically I'm not an ST50 owner (yet).
Again, I don't leave anything out. I say that if the extra features appeal to them, then go for the GT50. The specs/features are listed on almost any site that lists the TVs and you can even directly compare them on the Panasonic website. By features, I mean inputs, the dual core processor etc. What AVSForum is good for is to help people understand the actual differences between models performance wise, and that's exactly what I do.
I never mentioned anything about "ST50 chest beaters" so don't quote me and put that your post. Quote the correct person please because your tone towards me is already way below friendly.
Umm, I didn't quote you... clearly I quoted the person who made that comment.
Prices are coming down quite a bit for the GT50 so it's even more of a better buy for people that no only want PQ but connectivity features and styling as well. Afterall, what's the point of paying for a smart TV if you can't get the best out of it? And before you reply back saying that some of the features are forced upon us, well yes they are but why spend money and get half-assed features when you can spend a bit more and get a lot better.
I can't imagine anyone saying they would prefer to have limited connectivity.
If you consider the ST50 half-assed as far as features, then to each their own.
At least I can talk to you in a fair tone, you're talking about other people being defensive, sir you're very defensive. I was trying to speak up for people who like the GT50, you're trying to speak against them.
My previous post wasn't even close to being in an aggressive manner... I don't know how you got that.
When have I EVER been defensive about the ST50 when someone recommends the GT50? If I ever was even remotely defensive, it was because false information was given. The only reason I'm being defensive right now is because you're singling me out and taking my posts out of context. All I have done is give my opinion and you're always the one who comes to the defense of the GT50. If you want to make your argument for the GT50, go for it... I'm not stopping you.
I think part of the reason you're being so defensive towards me, is that you only believe what pro calibrators or the manufacturers say (and I understand that). It's quite obvious that you're a little
more kind to D-Nice when he says some of the things I have already said. You have flat out told me that I don't know what I'm talking about before. What you have to understand is, many people on these boards calibrate themselves or at least understand how to read calibration reports and what all the numbers mean. I have done a lot of research on the 2012 Panasonic plasmas as I plan on purchasing one myself. I'm not someone to go around spreading false information to backup my opinion.