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post #1501 of 3484
This seems like a very elementary question after reading up on this thread, LOL, but it's driving me nuts and is the difference between me keeping this player and returning it.

I am very happy performance-wise with this system. My previous Panasonic crapped the bed last week, and I wanted something with dual HDMI as I will be upgrading my sound system soon, and this seemed like the best in the price class before going up to Oppo levels. One feature I have fallen in love with is the skip-back 10 seconds - such a simple thing, but a lot of the time I may want to see a snippet again but don't bother because of the time it takes, over shooting the mark, etc.

My problem is: auto-shut off when paused.

It seems to stay in pause for approximately 30 minutes before the system auto-shuts down. Of course, with Blu-rays with no resume (i.e. most of the ones I play), that means another two minutes just to get it loaded, past all the filler crap, and finally get to a menu - then I have to figure out where I was. This may not seem huge, but it's a deal breaker for me since I often have a Blu paused for an hour or two when it's time to cook dinner, or any other activities.

I have combed the settings and searched online, and can't figure out what is causing it. Anything remotely related I have turned off - no HDMI control, etc. It's not my TV telling it - the TV doesn't shut off until after it senses the Blu-ray player has been off for awhile, not the other way around.

I feel kind of silly as I am sure I must just be missing something - can anyone enlighten me?

Thank you!
post #1502 of 3484
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Originally Posted by awadew View Post

My problem is: auto-shut off when paused.

They all do it Sony, Panny etc.

Live with it - it is the NEW ENERGY DESIGN.
Edited by drhankz - 7/31/12 at 10:33am
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Originally Posted by drhankz View Post

They all do it Sony, Panny etc.
Live with it - it is the NEW ENERGY DESIGN.

My last Panasonic did not.

If there is no way to turn off auto-shutdown - that's pretty silly since there is a "quick start up" mode that you can turn on which keeps the fan (!!) going all the time so they player starts up a little quicker. That's definitely not energy efficient - keeping your fan going constantly and the system basically on, when all I want it to do is stay on when I tell it to.

Honestly, I watch Blu-rays in such chunks I can't live with it - if that's the case that it's set to such a short duration and I can't adjust it or shut it off, then back to the store it goes. Will have to research one that doesn't, even if I have to get an older model. May seem like a silly reason to some, but I get to watch a Blu-ray all the way through once in a Blu-moon, LOL - for a myriad of reasons I need to be able to pause for a lot longer than that.

Of course, it's crazy that no sort of resume provision wasn't put forth in the standard by the BDA for Java-discs, and that Blu-ray disc releases don't all just do it anyway since it is technically possible, but since they did/are not, I'm not going to spend five minutes every time I pause getting back where i was when I may have to pause it 3-4 times during a movie for 1/2 hour or longer.
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Originally Posted by awadew View Post

My last Panasonic did not. .

It was more than TWO YEARS OLD.
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Originally Posted by drhankz View Post

It was more than TWO YEARS OLD.

Thank you for your input.
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my disc door wont open. when i press eject button the GUI reads D On. but it won't open. any help? Thanks:mad:
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That happened to me when I first received my 790. I think it was a victim of the UPS toss. I popped the door off but was unable to free it. I returned it to ABT and they exchanged it on the spot, busted door and everything. There was at least one other occurrence of the tray not opening on this thread.
post #1508 of 3484
I have a 790 and really love it. just one thing every once in a while it just freezees up. I have to unploug to get it back to normal. I have had it about 2 months only happened about 3-4 times anyone else have this issue. at all.
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Hey guys I just received my new issue of Home Theater Magazine from the mail and read the review for the Sony S790. It received 5 stars for performance, 5 stars for features, 4 1/2 stars for ergonomics, and 4 1/2 stars for value. 5 stars is the max score for people that don't know. Basically, they loved it and they say that it rivals the Oppo BDP-93 in every way except for build quality. Also, they said the "Sony has flawless Blu-ray playback, outstanding DVD upconversion, and more streaming services than you can shake a stick at." At half the price of the Oppo, its an amazing deal.

This professional review is a great example of how spot on JoeRod has been with his reviews. JoeRod really knows his stuff and has only strengthened his reputation in my eyes with his review of the Sony S790.
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Originally Posted by SED <--- Rules View Post

Hey guys I just received my new issue of Home Theater Magazine from the mail and read the review for the Sony S790. It received 5 stars for performance, 5 stars for features, 4 1/2 stars for ergonomics, and 4 1/2 stars for value. 5 stars is the max score for people that don't know. Basically, they loved it and they say that it rivals the Oppo BDP-93 in every way except for build quality. Also, they said the "Sony has flawless Blu-ray playback, outstanding DVD upconversion, and more streaming services than you can shake a stick at." At half the price of the Oppo, its an amazing deal.
This professional review is a great example of how spot on JoeRod has been with his reviews. JoeRod really knows his stuff and has only strengthened his reputation in my eyes with his review of the Sony S790.

Considering I was the guy who wrote the review, I agree with you 100% biggrin.gif

That being said, I also stated NOT to use any of the "special enhancements" available in the player in order to have the best picture quality. This is one area where Joe and I disagree.
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Originally Posted by SED <--- Rules View Post

Hey guys I just received my new issue of Home Theater Magazine from the mail and read the review for the Sony S790. It received 5 stars for performance, 5 stars for features, 4 1/2 stars for ergonomics, and 4 1/2 stars for value. 5 stars is the max score for people that don't know. Basically, they loved it and they say that it rivals the Oppo BDP-93 in every way except for build quality. Also, they said the "Sony has flawless Blu-ray playback, outstanding DVD upconversion, and more streaming services than you can shake a stick at." At half the price of the Oppo, its an amazing deal.
This professional review is a great example of how spot on JoeRod has been with his reviews. JoeRod really knows his stuff and has only strengthened his reputation in my eyes with his review of the Sony S790.

Your spot on with the review and your statement on Joerod. Cannot wait to get my copy and read Daves review. Cool
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Originally Posted by Dave Vaughn View Post

Considering I was the guy who wrote the review, I agree with you 100% biggrin.gif
That being said, I also stated NOT to use any of the "special enhancements" available in the player in order to have the best picture quality. This is one area where Joe and I disagree.

This is a surprise. I did not expect one of the actual Home Theater Magazine reviewers to respond to my post! biggrin.gif Very nice to meet you Dave! The use (or not) of those enhancements is really subjective and differs from person to person. In my eyes, I do prefer not to use any enhancements like you Dave since I like to the the most "pure and untampered" picture possible. But again, there are people that are tweakers and love to tweak, tweak, tweak like JoeRod. smile.gif

I'd also like to add that Home Theater Magazine is simply awesome. I'm really happy every time I see a new issue in my mailbox! I've seen other A/V magazines but HTM is definitely the best one out there and I highly recommend it to anybody that is even remotely interested in home theater. Keep up the outstanding work guys!
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Originally Posted by SED <--- Rules View Post

This is a surprise. I did not expect one of the actual Home Theater Magazine reviewers to respond to my post! biggrin.gif Very nice to meet you Dave! The use (or not) of those enhancements is really subjective and differs from person to person. In my eyes, I do prefer not to use any enhancements like you Dave since I like to the the most "pure and untampered" picture possible. But again, there are people that are tweakers and love to tweak, tweak, tweak like JoeRod. smile.gif
I'd also like to add that Home Theater Magazine is simply awesome. I'm really happy every time I see a new issue in my mailbox! I've seen other A/V magazines but HTM is definitely the best one out there and I highly recommend it to anybody that is even remotely interested in home theater. Keep up the outstanding work guys!

Thanks for the kind words. My colleagues at Home Theater are an outstanding group of men and women who are truly passionate about home theater. Thanks for reading!
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When is the review going to be posted online?
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Originally Posted by Cortiz View Post

When is the review going to be posted online?

I have no idea, but I'll try and find out. Usually a it will post a few weeks after the magazine hits newsstands.
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Sony updated the firmware on the BDP-S790 this morning and with it the RGB performance is now equal to that on the BDP-S590. it isn't perfect, but it's very close (I think the max average dE for one of the colors was 0.4 or less) compared to the previous errors. Now that it's been updated I'll finish off my review of the BDP-S790 and turn it in. To echo was David said, we've both found that it performs very well as a Blu-ray player, but it's not a magic box that can do things that no other player can do. I'd recommend it to people, and I wouldn't mind keeping it myself (but I already have enough players around), but it you put it next to the S590 or the Panasonic BDP-DMP210 or the Oppo 93 and watch a Blu-ray movie, you're going to see the exact same picture on each.
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Originally Posted by Smackrabbit View Post

Sony updated the firmware on the BDP-S790 this morning and with it the RGB performance is now equal to that on the BDP-S590. it isn't perfect, but it's very close (I think the max average dE for one of the colors was 0.4 or less) compared to the previous errors. Now that it's been updated I'll finish off my review of the BDP-S790 and turn it in. To echo was David said, we've both found that it performs very well as a Blu-ray player, but it's not a magic box that can do things that no other player can do. I'd recommend it to people, and I wouldn't mind keeping it myself (but I already have enough players around), but it you put it next to the S590 or the Panasonic BDP-DMP210 or the Oppo 93 and watch a Blu-ray movie, you're going to see the exact same picture on each.

Great news!...So which color space do you recommend? I have my player paired up with a new Sony KDL-45HX750. Will I notice any difference between the three color spaces on this set?

Thanks!
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Originally Posted by Cortiz View Post

Great news!...So which color space do you recommend? I have my player paired up with a new Sony KDL-45HX750. Will I notice any difference between the three color spaces on this set?
Thanks!

I'd read the primer here on colorspaces:

http://spearsandmunsil.com/articles/choosingacolorspace.html

Technically the YCbCr output is a little more accurate, but not by a degree that it would make you choose it. It should be picked based on what your display handles best. For example, the other Sony TV I had here handled 4:2:2 and RGB correctly, but not 4:4:4, so you really need to test it yourself and see what is handled best.
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Originally Posted by Smackrabbit View Post

I'd read the primer here on colorspaces:
http://spearsandmunsil.com/articles/choosingacolorspace.html
Technically the YCbCr output is a little more accurate, but not by a degree that it would make you choose it. It should be picked based on what your display handles best. For example, the other Sony TV I had here handled 4:2:2 and RGB correctly, but not 4:4:4, so you really need to test it yourself and see what is handled best.

I read that article a while back and I thought it was a little confusing but helpful. I'll go back and forth between the settings on my new tv and see what I like best. For movie watching (Blu ray) is there a preference between YCbCr and RGB?
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hi i have an oppo 93 which i love but at this price of the sony im tempted.how is the sound quality of sacd on this player?thanks
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Originally Posted by Smackrabbit View Post

Sony updated the firmware on the BDP-S790 this morning and with it the RGB performance is now equal to that on the BDP-S590. it isn't perfect, but it's very close (I think the max average dE for one of the colors was 0.4 or less) compared to the previous errors. Now that it's been updated I'll finish off my review of the BDP-S790 and turn it in. To echo was David said, we've both found that it performs very well as a Blu-ray player, but it's not a magic box that can do things that no other player can do. I'd recommend it to people, and I wouldn't mind keeping it myself (but I already have enough players around), but it you put it next to the S590 or the Panasonic BDP-DMP210 or the Oppo 93 and watch a Blu-ray movie, you're going to see the exact same picture on each.

What else did the firmware address. Was this an automatic update or do we have to download it?
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Originally Posted by electronics craz View Post

hi i have an oppo 93 which i love but at this price of the sony im tempted.how is the sound quality of sacd on this player?thanks

I recommend the Sony S790 - PERIOD.

I do not own any SACD disks - Juts keep the 93 until the S790 Arrives and Compare the two.

The Video Quality is better than any DVD player because of the 4K Scaler - even for 2K Displays.

The DUAL HDMI is why I bought it because my AVR does not support 3D.

IT IS A GOD SEND in my book.
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Originally Posted by Smackrabbit View Post

Sony updated the firmware on the BDP-S790 this morning and with it the RGB performance is now equal to that on the BDP-S590. it isn't perfect, but it's very close (I think the max average dE for one of the colors was 0.4 or less) compared to the previous errors. Now that it's been updated I'll finish off my review of the BDP-S790 and turn it in. To echo was David said, we've both found that it performs very well as a Blu-ray player, but it's not a magic box that can do things that no other player can do. I'd recommend it to people, and I wouldn't mind keeping it myself (but I already have enough players around), but it you put it next to the S590 or the Panasonic BDP-DMP210 or the Oppo 93 and watch a Blu-ray movie, you're going to see the exact same picture on each.
If possible, please include a sentence or two in your review regarding it's SA-CD DSD to PCM conversion sampling rate. Is it the same as previous years models (176.4 kHz at 24 bits) or have Sony downgraded it to 88.2 kHz?
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Originally Posted by Cortiz View Post

I read that article a while back and I thought it was a little confusing but helpful. I'll go back and forth between the settings on my new tv and see what I like best. For movie watching (Blu ray) is there a preference between YCbCr and RGB?

Start with the luma multiburst and chroma multiburst patterns. If any of those are incorrect (missing information, too dark, use the online examples) then eliminate those color spaces. After that you can use the diamond one, which is hard to use until you've seen it work wrong. Then it's pretty easy to see as those bars are clearly not centered in the black diamonds, but are shifted to the right of them typically. With colorspace it isn't really a personal preference thing, but that you'll lose data with one of them if it's incorrect. Otherwise they should be identical.
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Originally Posted by vegashomes View Post

What else did the firmware address. Was this an automatic update or do we have to download it?

I have no idea what else it addressed, the player found it online and updated to it. I expected it earlier this week, but it's here now and RGB support is much improved.
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Originally Posted by Iain- View Post

If possible, please include a sentence or two in your review regarding it's SA-CD DSD to PCM conversion sampling rate. Is it the same as previous years models (176.4 kHz at 24 bits) or have Sony downgraded it to 88.2 kHz?

I'll have to check and see about this, I didn't play any SACDs with it in testing, so I'll try to do that before I have to ship it back on Monday.
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Originally Posted by drhankz View Post

The Video Quality is better than any DVD player because of the 4K Scaler - even for 2K Displays.

Not true. Using the 4K scaler is not even an option unless you have a 4K display.
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Originally Posted by Dave Vaughn View Post

Considering I was the guy who wrote the review, I agree with you 100% biggrin.gif
That being said, I also stated NOT to use any of the "special enhancements" available in the player in order to have the best picture quality. This is one area where Joe and I disagree.

Actually Dave since I have been using a Darblet with my Sony 790 and 1000ES I have backed off the 790's Enhancements quite a bit. I still use some of them but not far from the default settings. Yes, the Darblet is that good. smile.gif
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Originally Posted by SED <--- Rules View Post

This professional review is a great example of how spot on JoeRod has been with his reviews. JoeRod really knows his stuff and has only strengthened his reputation in my eyes with his review of the Sony S790.

I really appreciate your comments. As I move forward with my Onkyo 5 Receiver comparison (30 hours in) it truly makes it worth it. Thanks SED. smile.gif
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Originally Posted by william06 View Post

Your spot on with the review and your statement on Joerod. Cannot wait to get my copy and read Daves review. Cool

You too William! smile.gif
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These positive comments about the 790's DVD upconvert serve as a constant temptation to upgrade from a 590 to a 790. I am very happy with the 590 in most respects, except for a few quibbles.

1. 590 dvd upconvert is mediocre: panny 220 is significantly better

2. 590 remote is stubby and not ergo friendly

3. 590 will not zoom--panny 220 does

Otherwise, BR PQ is as good as any other player, file support is unsurpassed, and it is very quiet.

My only misgiving is the ethics of returning a perfectly working player for a full refund; seems like I'm renting a player for free, even if I am not in any way violating the retailer's return policy, in letter or spirt.
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Originally Posted by dpippel View Post

Not true. Using the 4K scaler is not even an option unless you have a 4K display.

Did you READ my STATEMENT
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