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post #2341 of 3486
Is there a way to output stereo when playing a CD? Both HDMI & optical out show up as PCM on my receiver when playing a CD. I don't want the blu ray player doing to the D/A conversion but rather the receiver as it has the better hardware.

Or there is no way around it?
post #2342 of 3486
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Originally Posted by arshishb View Post

Is there a way to output stereo when playing a CD? Both HDMI & optical out show up as PCM on my receiver when playing a CD. I don't want the blu ray player doing to the D/A conversion but rather the receiver as it has the better hardware.

Or there is no way around it?

If it says PCM it is Digital and NOT Analog.
post #2343 of 3486
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Originally Posted by drhankz View Post

If it says PCM it is Digital and NOT Analog.



Let me rephrase. I want the blu ray player to leave the CD output alone & just pass it on to the receiver. I want the receiver to decide to output it as stereo. Make sense?

I had an old Pioneer DVD player prior to this & playing CDs in them always showed up as 92/xxx stereo. And that was outputting through the optical out.
post #2344 of 3486
I think all you need to do is pick bitstream rather than PCM.
post #2345 of 3486
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Originally Posted by arshishb View Post

Let me rephrase. I want the blu ray player to leave the CD output alone & just pass it on to the receiver. I want the receiver to decide to output it as stereo. Make sense?

I had an old Pioneer DVD player prior to this & playing CDs in them always showed up as 92/xxx stereo. And that was outputting through the optical out.

CD - DVD - BLU-RAY are all recorded digitally.

Unless you are using the RED and WHITE Analog outputs the player is passing digital data.

Did I rephrase my answer correctly. It does now matter what your AVR says.

Unless you are using the RED and WHITE Analog outputs from the Player to AVR

BOTH Bitstream and PCM are DIGITAL formats.
post #2346 of 3486
Blu Rays & DVDs bit stream no problem. They show up as DD/DTS whatever that the format is.

CDs do not bitstream & that is what irks me as I do not want the blu ray player decoding it for me.

Oh well.
post #2347 of 3486
Standard RedBook CDs use 16 bit, 44.1 samples/sec PCM encoding on the disc, so that's what the receiver shows when they're "bitstreamed".

Of course, there are several non-RedBook audio disc formats that people often call CDs. (HDCD, DTS, DAD, DVD-A, SACD, etc.) Sony's Blu-ray players show the details about the audio stream on whatever format of disc they're playing. I don't have an Oppo or other "universal" player, but I suspect they do, too. Many receivers don't show all of the details about PCM signals.
post #2348 of 3486
Another day, another issue.

Has anyone had problems using Skype? I have connectedup one of the Sony-recommended webcams but the Skype app is dodgy ad hell. If the data stream drops too low, for instance if the remote end of a call has a low data rate, the entire unit has a propensity to crash and can only be revived with a power cycle.

Has anyone had similar experiences?
post #2349 of 3486
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Originally Posted by Fox-UK View Post

Another day, another issue.

Has anyone had problems using Skype? I have connectedup one of the Sony-recommended webcams but the Skype app is dodgy ad hell. If the data stream drops too low, for instance if the remote end of a call has a low data rate, the entire unit has a propensity to crash and can only be revived with a power cycle.

Has anyone had similar experiences?

Are you using a wired or wireless connection to the net?
post #2350 of 3486
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Originally Posted by Selden Ball View Post

Standard RedBook CDs use 16 bit, 44.1 samples/sec PCM encoding on the disc, so that's what the receiver shows when they're "bitstreamed".

Of course, there are several non-RedBook audio disc formats that people often call CDs. (HDCD, DTS, DAD, DVD-A, SACD, etc.) Sony's Blu-ray players show the details about the audio stream on whatever format of disc they're playing. I don't have an Oppo or other "universal" player, but I suspect they do, too. Many receivers don't show all of the details about PCM signals.

Thanks, that is good insight.

Perhaps I should just shut up & assume that my receiver is decoding the CD.
post #2351 of 3486
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Originally Posted by arshishb View Post

Thanks, that is good insight.

Perhaps I should just shut up & assume that my receiver is decoding the CD.
Why don't you try both your old and new players and do a listening test. If you can't tell any difference, then don't worry about it.
post #2352 of 3486
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Originally Posted by InfernoST View Post

Are you using a wired or wireless connection to the net?

Wired
post #2353 of 3486
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Originally Posted by dcarroll View Post

i'm not getting HD when streaming netflix HD content. they tell me i don't have enough MBS through the player. i think thats boloney. anybody know where i can find the MBS to check?

Maybe try the VuDu app on the player? It has a network test in the settings that can help determine if you can run their movies in HDX mode, 1080p. At least it might help show if you have steaming issues.
post #2354 of 3486
Anyone with 790 hack experience out there?

What I need for dual projection 3D, is independent right and left views. With the dual HDMI's there might be hope. Else I will stay with using a dual head card on a computer.

So, right and left views out the two different HDMI's with the S790? Any hope?

Larry
post #2355 of 3486
Does anyone have the TV code for a Vizio E601i-A3. Thanks, Mitch
post #2356 of 3486
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Originally Posted by vaidyabala View Post

I am relatively new to the forum. Just bought sony bdp-s790 after reading rave reviews on this forums. So far I am pleased.

My setup is Sony BDP-S790 ---> Sony STR-DA5300ES Receiver --->Sony KDS-60A3000 TV using HDMI. I also have PS3, Verizon Fios all connected to the Sony Receiver via HDMI as well.

Both Sony BDP-S790 and PS3 have wired TCP/IP connection. I connected the device to internet and it was updated the latest firmware

I have couple of questions that I am not fully clear of.

a) When I turn on the Sony BDP-S790 I see my TV screen flicker several times. The menu comes on and it disappears for a second and comes back, disappears again, come back. This happens 3 or 4 minutes before it settles down. Sometimes it does not stop. I have to physically turn off and turn on the player. I am not sure if this is due to HDMI handshake. Did anyone experience this as well? Is this normal? This happens while navigating through the menu, selecting video/audio apps etc as well.


b) Does the internal engine, scales the internet streaming videos to 1080 resolution also? I am noticing smooth picture quality. I signed up for new Indian TV Channels (yupptv). Just curious if the service itself is better and transmitting at higher resolution or my dvd player is doing to scaling as well. Is there a way to check if blu rayer is doing any scaling of incoming video stream?

So far this is my opinion about this blu-ray player

Pros

- Decent picture quality
- Even streaming video quality seems to be better compared to PS3
- wide variety of video/audio apps streaming support
- relatively fast
- 2 HDMI outs (somewhat future proof)
- Remote works easily with other sony devices without any programming
- Quick and easy setup. Firmware upgrade part went smoothly

Cons

- HDMI handshake is sketchy. Turning on the blue ray player the first time, make the tv screen flash several times (4-5 minutes), and it continues even if I start youtube video stream. Turning off the player and turning it on makes the problem go away. Tried switching on the TV/receiver first and then the player. It works sometimes but not always
- No way to remove unwanted Video apps or mark the ones you want as favorites. I talked to tech support as well about this. I use only a couple of streaming apps and I have to go through a long list of useless things everytime to locate them. Real pain. There is no way to install only the needed ones. Sony should provide a way to install/uninstall video apps. This is big miss as far as I am concerned mad.gif
- Remote is plasticy. Remote buttons give annoying clicking sound.

Played looper blu ray over the weekend, the picture seems little soft. I have not played with any settings in the player yet. Using just out of box settings. Did not have time to compare same video on PS3. Will do some more testing. Not tried to DLNA features yet.


Thanks

Did you ever solve the flickering picture issue? I am new to the forum and just purchased the BDP-S790. I am having same problem. Here is my configuration: BDP-S790 connected to Denon AVR-3808CI and output to a Benq W500 LED Projector. When connected via HDMI cables, at first it will say no connection, then it will appear and when in setup mode it flickers and eventually is lost completely. What is weird is playback of a Blu-ray DVD works just fine! I have switched out the cables, tried different ports on receiver all to no avail. Sony tech support was no help at all. When connecting with component cables (Sony's suggestion) it works fine. Sony says this is solution, I say no, the HDMI port should work. Is it my receiver or projector with the problem or is it the Sony? The receiver is equipped for HDMI version 1.3a (so no 3d thru the Denon), could that be the problem?

Sure hope someone has some suggestions or answers.


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post #2357 of 3486
Hey guys,

I was wondering what files the DLNA client support? I have a minidlna server and tried some avi files. They work fine on the Xbox 360 but the S790 says they are unsupported or corrupt
post #2358 of 3486
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Originally Posted by rjstill View Post

Did you ever solve the flickering picture issue? I am new to the forum and just purchased the BDP-S790. I am having same problem. Here is my configuration: BDP-S790 connected to Denon AVR-3808CI and output to a Benq W500 LED Projector. When connected via HDMI cables, at first it will say no connection, then it will appear and when in setup mode it flickers and eventually is lost completely. What is weird is playback of a Blu-ray DVD works just fine! I have switched out the cables, tried different ports on receiver all to no avail. Sony tech support was no help at all. When connecting with component cables (Sony's suggestion) it works fine. Sony says this is solution, I say no, the HDMI port should work. Is it my receiver or projector with the problem or is it the Sony? The receiver is equipped for HDMI version 1.3a (so no 3d thru the Denon), could that be the problem?

Sure hope someone has some suggestions or answers.


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Try turning turn deep color off.
post #2359 of 3486
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Originally Posted by natas777 View Post

Hey guys,

I was wondering what files the DLNA client support? I have a minidlna server and tried some avi files. They work fine on the Xbox 360 but the S790 says they are unsupported or corrupt

AVI is just a container. What video and audio codec is it ?
post #2360 of 3486
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Originally Posted by apw2607 View Post

AVI is just a container. What video and audio codec is it ?

Right now I am not sure what codec the files are. However I bought DVD FAB so I can convert them to anything. What should I be selecting for audio and video codec?
post #2361 of 3486
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Originally Posted by natas777 View Post

Right now I am not sure what codec the files are. However I bought DVD FAB so I can convert them to anything. What should I be selecting for audio and video codec?

you could use media info to determine what they are. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaInfo

AVI is tricky. The Sony will support natively playing XVID for sure and divx for players in europe and canada ... but since AVIs can also contain mpeg2, mpeg1, wmv, h264, vc-1 ... etc I've personally not tested those codecs in that container.

The absolutely best container for Sony BD players is M2TS. You can just throw about anything in that and the Sony will play it without issue, but obviously you would be limited to H264, Mpeg2, Mpeg1, and VC-1

Have a read of this post, and you may want to reach out to this forum member. They had issues with miniDLNA on their NAS playing MKVs. It maybe related. Its all about how the DLNA server presents the files to the player.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1386151/official-2012-sony-bdp-s790-thread/2190#post_22861560
post #2362 of 3486
natas777 - few other things to think about.

Try playing the avi from a USB stick, directly connected to the Sony. If it plays, make a note of what the Sony thinks the file is, shown next to the file in a light grey box. See picks in this thread to understand what I mean.

Another thing you could try is throwing the AVI into a MKV container. Use MKV merge (mkvtoolnix) to do that, and make sure you disable Compression.

See this example :- (with a m4v to MKV)

post #2363 of 3486
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Originally Posted by arshishb View Post

Let me rephrase. I want the blu ray player to leave the CD output alone & just pass it on to the receiver. I want the receiver to decide to output it as stereo. Make sense?

I had an old Pioneer DVD player prior to this & playing CDs in them always showed up as 92/xxx stereo. And that was outputting through the optical out.
The output of a CD is two-channel PCM. There is no decoding involved, other than decoding of PCM digital to analog, which happens in the receiver whenever you use a digital connection between the player and the receiver. The only time the player decodes the audio to analog is when you use the analog audio connections between player and receiver.
post #2364 of 3486
It's my mini dlna server. I copied files to my USB thumb drive and they worked fine.
post #2365 of 3486
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Originally Posted by natas777 View Post

It's my mini dlna server. I copied files to my USB thumb drive and they worked fine.

Many people have found that the (free, multiplatform) serviio DLNA server works very well with Sony BD players if you select the Sony BraviaTV profile.
post #2366 of 3486
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Originally Posted by natas777 View Post

It's my mini dlna server. I copied files to my USB thumb drive and they worked fine.

Send a private post to "mark the red" and see if his custom build of miniDLNA may fix the issue for you.
post #2367 of 3486
More testing with Skype seems to indicate that the build on the s790 is just not very well put together. Even with an acceptable bit rate approaching one Meg the video feed is bad and the player randomly resets itself. If I were to guess I would say it's exhibiting some sort of memory leak. For a feature which Sony bigger up when promoting the drive I have to say I am deeply unimpressed.
post #2368 of 3486
i use skype all the time on the s790 using a microsoft hd camera. no issues with streaming nor have i seen any signs of "memory leaks".

my experience and i have had this 790 since last summer.
post #2369 of 3486
Just bought The 790 about a month ago. I can say this thing works flawless when streaming music from my laptop or streaming movies from Vudu. I'm streaming wireless for these as well. Perfect picture, sound etc... Great player indeed!! smile.gif
post #2370 of 3486
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Originally Posted by Fox-UK View Post

More testing with Skype seems to indicate that the build on the s790 is just not very well put together. Even with an acceptable bit rate approaching one Meg the video feed is bad and the player randomly resets itself. If I were to guess I would say it's exhibiting some sort of memory leak. For a feature which Sony bigger up when promoting the drive I have to say I am deeply unimpressed.

What type of network connection are you using, wired or wireless?

Wired will give much more reliable connectivity than wireless. There are just too many ways wireless connections can be interfered with. Realtime audio and video communication (like Skype) essentially requires that there be no network dropouts at all. Lost or corrupted packets aren't noticed when copying files or downloading Web pages. The network software automatically retries until it gets it right. Retries cause long pauses which disrupt videoconferences. Even with hard-wired connections, professional videoconferencing software (like Webex) often has to use traditional hard-wired telephone connections to get acceptable audio due to the unreliability of long-distance IP networking.

People often report almost as good results when using power-line network adapters as when using direct Cat-5 or Cat-6 ethernet cabling, but I don't know if power-line network adapters are available in the UK.
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