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post #2941 of 3484
Old Sony BDP-S790: U2
P-49865550-0
501-1005421-90
POS Bar Code: 027242845336

New Sony BDP-S790: CA2
P-49865722-P
501-8500124-6
POS Bar Code: 027242868007

Audio settings:
Audio (HDMI): Auto
DSD Output: Off
Dolby Digital: Bitstream/DTS
DTS NED:6 : Cinema
Audio DRC: Auto
Downmix: Surround

Played the whole Total Recall 2012 Extended Version Without a Dropout, nor Video Problems!
Edited by p5browne - 9/7/13 at 6:22am
post #2942 of 3484
Because some people don't just use one setting for everything, drhankz? It doesn't make what his player is doing right.

Btw, I tested a short clip file in 1080p X264/DTS/MKV burned to a CD-RW. The thing stutter like crazy. Testing it off of other media it plays fine.

I realize it is probably a CD limitation, but is it possible that a CD-R can be read faster than a CD-RW (since RWs have a different maximum read speed) or is this a CD limitation in general?
Sure, blank CDs are cheap, but I figured I'd ask before burning one just to test it.

p5browne: The unit I got a couple weeks back has the "P-49865550-0" number as well. I don't see a U.S. vs CA indication (on the box anyway).

Is there really evidence of hardware change?

Edit: Burn tested CD-R. It was a failure. I wouldn't recommend CDs for MKV video.
Edited by DoctorM - 9/7/13 at 10:39pm
post #2943 of 3484
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Originally Posted by DoctorM View Post

Because some people don't just use one setting for everything, drhankz? It doesn't make what his player is doing right.

Btw, I tested a short clip file in 1080p X264/DTS/MKV burned to a CD-RW. The thing stutter like crazy. Testing it off of other media it plays fine.

I realize it is probably a CD limitation, but is it possible that a CD-R can be read faster than a CD-RW (since RWs have a different maximum read speed) or is this a CD limitation in general?
Sure, blank CDs are cheap, but I figured I'd ask before burning one just to test it.

p5browne: The unit I got a couple weeks back has the "P-49865550-0" number as well. I don't see a U.S. vs CA indication (on the box anyway).

Is there really evidence of hardware change?

NOTE:

OLD Sony BDP-S790: US - OLD from over a year ago!

U2 (United States) (Upper Left hand corner of Label)

P-49865550-0
501-1005421-90
POS Bar Code: 027242845336

NEW: CA2 (Canada) - NEW - Just received.
P-49865722-P
Edited by p5browne - 9/7/13 at 6:46am
post #2944 of 3484
What is the general consensus regarding this player vs. the OPPO 103 for regular 2D unenhanced PQ? In the OPPO thread, some say the 103 is slightly better (i.e. clearer) running in 'direct' mode.
post #2945 of 3484
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Originally Posted by RWetmore View Post

What is the general consensus regarding this player vs. the OPPO 103 for regular 2D unenhanced PQ? In the OPPO thread, some say the 103 is slightly better (i.e. clearer) running in 'direct' mode.

What do you expect from the OPPO Thread?

I doubt you will see any improvement.

I do not own an OPPO - TOO MUCH MONEY.

The S-790 is GREAT on my 144" Screen.
post #2946 of 3484
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Originally Posted by RWetmore View Post

What is the general consensus regarding this player vs. the OPPO 103 for regular 2D unenhanced PQ? In the OPPO thread, some say the 103 is slightly better (i.e. clearer) running in 'direct' mode.

They are both excellent since Sony resolved the color space issue several months back. I personally prefer the Oppo because the Sony's in general seems to have a slightly hotter picture than the Oppo. Some refer to this as the picture having more pop, detail, etc. I've seen this in my previous BDP-S1000ES and my current BDP-S790. However, I don't really notice this in my BDP-S5000ES.

Long story short base your buying decision on features and not on PQ, because that is what differentiates the 2 players.smile.gif
post #2947 of 3484
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Originally Posted by drhankz View Post

What do you expect from the OPPO Thread?
I doubt you will see any improvement.

I do not own an OPPO - TOO MUCH MONEY.

The S-790 is GREAT on my 144" Screen.

This has been stated on this thread also (preference for the Oppo).smile.gif I agree that the Oppo is too much money if your only requirements are blu-ray, DVD, 3D and possibly streaming. Actually you can get these features for less than the BDP-S790.smile.gif
post #2948 of 3484
I want to ask the question again. I just bought an S790 in the past few weeks. It definitely has the U2 (U.S.) designation on the box.

Since it can still be returned at this point, is there actually a hardware change or other reason I should try to exchange it?
post #2949 of 3484
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Originally Posted by DoctorM View Post

I want to ask the question again. I just bought an S790 in the past few weeks. It definitely has the U2 (U.S.) designation on the box.

Since it can still be returned at this point, is there actually a hardware change or other reason I should try to exchange it?

NO
post #2950 of 3484
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Originally Posted by drhankz View Post

NO
Are you sure? You don't sound so sure. smile.gif
post #2951 of 3484
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Originally Posted by DoctorM View Post

Are you sure? You don't sound so sure. smile.gif

If you have the Total Recall 2012, play it with all the Audio set for Bitstream. If you have freezing, and audio dropouts, especially going from Scene 8 into 9, and during 9, you have the old 790, if it plays through without issues, or having to go to PCM you have the New 790. (There are some other Blu-ray Films having the same issue, but I don't think I have any of them to test, just the TR 2012.)
post #2952 of 3484
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Originally Posted by p5browne View Post

If you have the Total Recall 2012, play it with all the Audio set for Bitstream. If you have freezing, and audio dropouts, especially going from Scene 8 into 9, and during 9, you have the old 790, if it plays through without issues, or having to go to PCM you have the New 790. (There are some other Blu-ray Films having the same issue, but I don't think I have any of them to test, just the TR 2012.)

I have the old one. Any ideas on getting Sony to trade it out?
post #2953 of 3484
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Originally Posted by p5browne View Post

If you have the Total Recall 2012, play it with all the Audio set for Bitstream. If you have freezing, and audio dropouts, especially going from Scene 8 into 9, and during 9, you have the old 790, if it plays through without issues, or having to go to PCM you have the New 790. (There are some other Blu-ray Films having the same issue, but I don't think I have any of them to test, just the TR 2012.)
Are you talking about the 2012 release of the Schwarzenegger version or the 2012 remake?

The thing is, I seem to remember something about this and the studio acknowledge an error with the disc... I'll be googling that now.

Edit: Yeah, http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=212328
I can't see how that is a hardware issue.
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Originally Posted by DoctorM View Post

Are you talking about the 2012 release of the Schwarzenegger version or the 2012 remake?

The thing is, I seem to remember something about this and the studio acknowledge an error with the disc... I'll be googling that now.

Edit: Yeah, http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=212328
I can't see how that is a hardware issue.

Not the one with Arnie!
Trying to get info out of Sony Support.
Noticed I ran the Blu-ray on Auto last night - changed Video Source to Direct, and retried Scene 8, then into 9 - no issues. On my older 5000 - beginning of Scene 9, it used to freeze just as they came through the door.
Sony never acknowledged an issue with the disc - OPPO - when I requested a fix from them for the same issue, stated that Sony released a defective Mix. So, Sony HAS CHANGED something since I'm playing the same Blu-ray, but, will they admit it? (How many units would have to be recalled?)
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Why would Sony replace hardware on a unit that is possibly on it's way out?confused.gif
post #2956 of 3484
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Originally Posted by bakerwi View Post

Why would Sony replace hardware on a unit that is possibly on it's way out?confused.gif
Because the S790 is a carry over model. It is their flagship for both 2012 and 2013.

@p5browne - I'm pretty sure that link I posted is Sony admitting a problem.

Edit: p5browne - Can you confirm that you've tried that Total Recall disc on 2 different S790 players that are both running the same firmware with different results?
Edited by DoctorM - 9/7/13 at 8:13pm
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Originally Posted by DoctorM View Post

Because the S790 is a carry over model. It is their flagship for both 2012 and 2013.

@p5browne - I'm pretty sure that link I posted is Sony admitting a problem.

Edit: p5browne - Can you confirm that you've tried that Total Recall disc on 2 different S790 players that are both running the same firmware with different results?

Both had the same May FW Updates. Same Total Recall 2012 Blu-ray was played on both. The New FW did improve the Old 790 to where there weren't as many issues, but playing Scene 8, and letting it run into Scene 9, there was still the hesitation as he entered the door at the beginning of Scene 9, and a couple of others in Scene 9. New Sony 790 - no hesitations. Maybe Canada got a somewhat different version due to CSA requirements?
Edited by p5browne - 9/8/13 at 6:13am
post #2958 of 3484
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Originally Posted by p5browne View Post

Both had the same May FW Updates. Same Total Recall 2012 Blu-ray was played on both. The New FW did improve the Old 790 to where there weren't as many issues, but playing Scene 8, and letting it run into Scene 9, there was still the hesitation as he entered the door at the beginning of Scene 9, and a couple of others in Scene 9. New Sony 790 - no hesitations. Maybe Canada got a somewhat different version due to CSA requirements?

I think you're confused. There's no way sony would make a hardware change to the player during its 2nd year of availability. Like posts above say the s790 has at best a couple more months left. i doubt the thing is even being manufacured now. In any case what possible hardware change could they make to correct a disk authoring problem - and why would they? It would cost a fortune to change the production run. This was always a authoring issue that lots of players had and may possibly be addressed in a future firmware update.
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Originally Posted by apw2607 View Post

I think you're confused. There's no way sony would make a hardware change to the player during its 2nd year of availability. Like posts above say the s790 has at best a couple more months left. i doubt the thing is even being manufacured now. In any case what possible hardware change could they make to correct a disk authoring problem - and why would they? It would cost a fortune to change the production run. This was always a authoring issue that lots of players had and may possibly be addressed in a future firmware update.

So what you're saying is `I got lucky with this one!'
The Canadian 790 is in a different box, with different Apps and different Coding.

Has anyone got a current listing of the Blu-rays that are having issues on their 790s, and I'll see if there's issues on mine.
post #2960 of 3484
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Originally Posted by p5browne View Post

So what you're saying is `I got lucky with this one!'
The Canadian 790 is in a different box, with different Apps and different Coding.

Has anyone got a current listing of the Blu-rays that are having issues on their 790s, and I'll see if there's issues on mine.

Did you play both the theatrical and extended versions of the film? I found that the last firmware update on my Sony BDP-S790 pretty much fixed the audio issues in the theatrical cut but the extended cut only improved slightly...
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Originally Posted by Mattyo1612 View Post

Did you play both the theatrical and extended versions of the film? I found that the last firmware update on my Sony BDP-S790 pretty much fixed the audio issues in the theatrical cut but the extended cut only improved slightly...

Only play the Extended Version - one question that comes to mind is, has Sony now set up to drop to PCM, even when everything is set for Bitstream, when issues are encountered, but not saying anything? Like I've said - ran the Extended from Start to Finish, and not one dropout, or Video freezing.
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There should be an indicator on your receiver which shows what kind of audio stream it's getting: dts, dd, pcm, etc.
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Originally Posted by p5browne View Post

So what you're saying is `I got lucky with this one!'
The Canadian 790 is in a different box, with different Apps and different Coding.

Has anyone got a current listing of the Blu-rays that are having issues on their 790s, and I'll see if there's issues on mine.
Different Apps and coding? It's starting to sound like you got a model that was localized for Canada, and not a model ever intended to be sold in the U.S.
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They're back!
Fraction of a second Audio dropouts in Scene 9.
Yamaha was on 4K Upconvert from when I had the 50" Seiki 4K here - Reset back to Factory defaults.
Tried Direct Bypass - the dropouts still there. So, I guess I wasn't so lucky!
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Has anyone experienced a loud humming noise from their unit? My unit is making this sound and I can hear it from 12 feet away.
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I hope I don't. smile.gif
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Originally Posted by Mark the Red View Post

I'll take plastic over metal anyday with home electronics. My drive is whisper quiet and I have not had any issues whatsoever with this player. My family (children too) uses it daily. Rock solid.
I've had my 790 for almost a year and its whisper quiet. I cant hear a thing when its playing. Its had a ton of use as well.
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Originally Posted by cchunter View Post

I've had my 790 for almost a year and its whisper quiet. I cant hear a thing when its playing. Its had a ton of use as well.

Hi cchunter, same here. If my player is making noise I won't hear it because the cabinet door is closed eek.giftongue.gif.
post #2969 of 3484
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Originally Posted by p5browne View Post

They're back!
Fraction of a second Audio dropouts in Scene 9.
Yamaha was on 4K Upconvert from when I had the 50" Seiki 4K here - Reset back to Factory defaults.
Tried Direct Bypass - the dropouts still there. So, I guess I wasn't so lucky!

Hi p5browne, only counted two audio dropout and its at the beginning of scene 9 ... otherwise the disc plays fine.
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Originally Posted by JChin View Post

Hi cchunter, same here. If my player is making noise I won't hear it because the cabinet door is closed eek.giftongue.gif.
LOL well I dont have a cabinet door and I still hear nothing when its playing.
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