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post #3241 of 3484
Never heard of MVC is that an MKV interpretation of frame packing (what BDs do) or some custom sequential frame thing? [see Edit Below]

Is MVC what you're using jah.volunteer?

Edit: Got it. For those of you playing at home...

Blu-ray 3d is frame packed, which is pretty much two full HD frames stacked on top of each other.


MVC is a weird H264 format:
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Basically, what happens is that two data streams L & R eyes are recorded to one frame. How this is accomplished is that the Left data stream is recorded at full resolution and the Right data stream is what's called a Delta stream meaning that it only reflects the differences between it and and the Left stream. In decompression, this missing data is filled in from the Left data to make two complete data streams.

MVC apparently is incompatible, there is no reason the most common re-encoding method of Half Side-By-Side shouldn't work fine for the Sony s790.

Although it would be very large, a remux of the movie should also play since the Sony is capable of playing BD M2TS files.

Edit 2: This may not be true either... I apparently have no idea what I'm talking about.
Edited by DoctorM - 1/23/14 at 10:14am
post #3242 of 3484
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Originally Posted by skinimin View Post

Hi, Thanks for you reply.

I have a 3D TV, Non 3D Receiver & Non 3D projector. I want to be able to plug the S790 Main HDMI out into the TV for 3D video and Sub HDMI into the receiver for audio but also want to be able to send non 3D video through the receiver to the projector. The receiver has two HDMI outs so I can send all of my other sources to the TV or projector.

I have come to understand that HDMI queries a plugged in devices capabilities even when not powered on, causing 3D players to revert to 2D when non compatible devices are attached even if they are not turned on?

I don't want to be plugging HDMI cables in & out to enable 3D, I was hoping that it might "just work" or I would have to delve into the menu's & turn off video to the sub HDMI.

In short, I don't know. There is too much HDMI voodoo and variance between player behavior when it comes to 3D that I think the best answer anyone else could give you is YMMV ("your mileage may vary"). The better answers will be learned through trial and error. But I would suspect that it will NOT "just work."
post #3243 of 3484
i have successfully coonverted my S790 into a region-free DVD player. I have read that no easy way exists for circumventing the Blu-Ray region coding. So how come completely "region-free" versions of S790 can be bought on eBay, although at a rather high price?
post #3244 of 3484
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Originally Posted by unifexx View Post

i have successfully coonverted my S790 into a region-free DVD player. I have read that no easy way exists for circumventing the Blu-Ray region coding. So how come completely "region-free" versions of S790 can be bought on eBay, although at a rather high price?
Because they've been converted the hard way. And since it's hard to do and requires some extra circuitry, they can charge for the material, knowledge and labor.
post #3245 of 3484
At one point someone was selling hardware region free bd mods for the s790 (as well as 5100, 3100 etc). It involved a good bit of soldering and adding additional hardware. Not for the faint hearted. Seems shutdown now.

At the end of the day ... Your just wasting your money anyway, Any North American 790 can play PAL or 50i material via M2TS backups.
post #3246 of 3484
I am thinking about either getting this or a Pioneer BDP 160 ( I am in Europe ) . I like the s790 but I already have a PS3 slim and I am getting a little tired of the X media bar interface.
But how easy / hard is it to make this player region code free on DVDs? smile.gif
How much noise does the player have?
post #3247 of 3484
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Originally Posted by Ted99 View Post

I ordered the BDP S 790 from the Sony Store at the "Cyber Monday" sale price of $199 because I just got a $60 gift card from the 1080p settlement on my Q 007. A day later got a message from Sony cancelling the order because of "no stock". Called customer support to complain (Sony web site showed in stock) and was told that the S 790 was being discontinued and no stock remaining at Sony. Any one know what is replacing it?

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what for the CDs show

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ces show

I'm hoping S790 replacement will have improved build quality and support gap-less, multi-channel FLAC files via USB 3.0 port. biggrin.gif
post #3248 of 3484
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Originally Posted by Iain- View Post



I'm hoping S790 replacement will have improved build quality and support gap-less, multi-channel FLAC files via USB 3.0 port. biggrin.gif

Plus HDMI 2.0, and or Display Port 1.3 with the New Codecs .265
post #3249 of 3484
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Originally Posted by kristoffer77 View Post

But how easy / hard is it to make this player region code free on DVDs? smile.gif
How much noise does the player have?

 

 

It is very easy - you have to buy a One for all remote on Amazon and google for instructions (which buttons to press). I'm not sure whether the forum rules allow me to post more detailed instructions here, but trust me, this is really all there is to it. Apart from the Amazon delivery, the whole process (including googling) takes about 5 minutes.


Edited by unifexx - 12/18/13 at 1:34pm
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Originally Posted by apw2607 View Post

At one point someone was selling hardware region free bd mods for the s790 (as well as 5100, 3100 etc). It involved a good bit of soldering and adding additional hardware. Not for the faint hearted. Seems shutdown now.

At the end of the day ... Your just wasting your money anyway, Any North American 790 can play PAL or 50i material via M2TS backups.

 

 

As I am in Europe myself, I'm more concerned with the European players playing US disks. The two reasons for this is that I like to watch movies in their original language (which is English for 90% of what I'm watching) and second, prices on Amazon.com and Amazon.de can be very different sometimes. I also have a large number of US DVDs. It's easy to make the player play those, but with the Blu-Rays it's a different story. I did see those hardware kits sold on eBay, but honestly, I can't be bothered to solder some unknown chip to my player.

 

Now, what did you mean by m2ts backups? Did you mean the digital copy that is sometimes sold together with the disk or did you mean a home-made rip?

post #3251 of 3484
Nothing wrong with posting the remote hacks when available. You just can't post outside links to forums that host hacked firmware.

S~
post #3252 of 3484
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Originally Posted by unifexx View Post


It is very easy - you have to buy a One for all remote on Amazon and google for instructions (which buttons to press). I'm not sure whether the forum rules allow me to post more detailed instructions here, but trust me, this is really all there is to it. Apart from the Amazon delivery, the whole process (including googling) takes about 5 minutes.

This method is only suppose to work for European players and not North American players
post #3253 of 3484
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Originally Posted by apw2607 View Post

This method is only suppose to work for European players and not North American players

I am sure I have mentioned that I am in Europe myself smile.gifsmile.gif
post #3254 of 3484
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Originally Posted by unifexx View Post

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Originally Posted by apw2607 View Post

This method is only suppose to work for European players and not North American players

I am sure I have mentioned that I am in Europe myself smile.gifsmile.gif

Please consider adding that Location information to your AVS profile.

We don't all manage to remember who made which posts: there are just too many.
post #3255 of 3484
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Originally Posted by WarrenD View Post

Hi! right on! The deep blacks on Direct mode are fantastic.

I agree that with a poor DVD transfer, then that would be a case to engage these enhancements.

Sorry to resurrect a topic of over a year ago but I just got this thng and am wondering about the quality of transfers. My personal collections of DVD's and concerts look fine, but the so called Bly-ray version of Hangover II from NETFLIX is absolutely horrible. The colors are really pushed, bloom like it was made from a 480i 1950's movies. I had to go into Custom and back off the COLOR setting as much as possible. Red push is bad too, so I adjusted the HUE. Is this normal, or just bad quality on the part of NetFlix discs?

2nd - Anyone have a problem with me using CUSTOM and playing with the Color and Hue settings while leaving everything else as Direct?

Thanks for saving me the time of not having gone thru 100 pages of this thread!
post #3256 of 3484
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Originally Posted by John Frank View Post

Sorry to resurrect a topic of over a year ago but I just got this thng and am wondering about the quality of transfers. My personal collections of DVD's and concerts look fine, but the so called Bly-ray version of Hangover II from NETFLIX is absolutely horrible. The colors are really pushed, bloom like it was made from a 480i 1950's movies. I had to go into Custom and back off the COLOR setting as much as possible. Red push is bad too, so I adjusted the HUE. Is this normal, or just bad quality on the part of NetFlix discs?

2nd - Anyone have a problem with me using CUSTOM and playing with the Color and Hue settings while leaving everything else as Direct?

Thanks for saving me the time of not having gone thru 100 pages of this thread!

Direct and that's it. No other issues.
post #3257 of 3484
@John Frank - If you look, the last post before yours wasn't even two days old. Although the BDP-790 came out in 2012, it was held over for a second year as Sony's flagship model.
Welcome to the tread.
post #3258 of 3484
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Originally Posted by WarrenD View Post

Thanks again. Some DVD's I have are poor transfers so that is useful. But on a good DVD transfer, I noticed on Direct mode, the picture is so good, that no additional enhancements need to be added. I took Superbit Mapping off. Blu Ray needs no revisions and Direct is the way to go.

Contrary to some of the purists, there ARE issues with Direct. I'm not making this up, Netflix Hangover II is unwatchable until you go to CUSTOM and back the COLOR all the way down and bump up the HUE a notch towards GREEN.

I was referring to this discussion around page 37-38 (for my browser) - June 2012
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1386151/official-2012-sony-bdp-s790-thread/1110


Thanks
post #3259 of 3484
I was referring to Blu-ray and DVD with Direct mode. Nothing more.

As for Netflix, that depends on their side and how they are streaming. I use Lovefilm and sometimes the quality is poor depending on bandwidth. I would avoid judging this player using say Youtube as a guide. A lot depends on the person uploading and what they have done.

The main reason I bought the Sony is for it's amazing upscaling abilities with DVD!
post #3260 of 3484
Hangover II was a Netflix disc, mail exchange program. I don't stream.

Crazy movie BTW, we laughed our butts off!
post #3261 of 3484
Has anyone tried these with Silicondust's new DLNA enabled hdhomeruns? I've been thinking of getting one, but I would need the Sony to access it.
I can find few details on their page about how it actually works. Do you navigate like you would files except they are channels? No clue how these work.
post #3262 of 3484
So how does one take apart the S790. I have removed the screws, but having difficulty opening it up.
post #3263 of 3484
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Originally Posted by California Joe View Post

So how does one take apart the S790. I have removed the screws, but having difficulty opening it up.

http://www.agoraquest.com/viewtopic.php?topic=40372&forum=66
post #3264 of 3484
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Thanks for replying back, much appreciative.
post #3265 of 3484
Just about ready to pull the trigger on this player, my only concern is the network streaming of movies from my WD NAS.I have several hundred movies in mkv containers in h264 format with audio codecs of ac3, aac, mp3, and DTS. Up till now I have been streaming to my lg blu ray player without issue. Do not need to run a dlna server because the lg is connected as a cifs share I believe. I hope I can duplicate this with the Sony.
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^^^
Sony is DLNA only, no shares.
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^^^
Sony is DLNA only, no shares.

Thanks, beside the oppo 103 any other player you can recommend that allows shares?
post #3268 of 3484
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Thanks, beside the oppo 103 any other player you can recommend that allows shares?
Panny might work. It does shares and a few files types including some mkv.
post #3269 of 3484
Have purchased the Boxing Sale Yamaha RX-V675 since I noticed it has several additional DTS Decoders available.

The Yamaha Website Comparisons show virtually no differences, but did find this website that did in the Decoder Areas:

http://receivers.findthebest.com/compare/223-240/RX-V675-vs-Yamaha-RX-V673

Have also gotten the wife to get me the Total Recall 4K ReMastered Bluray for Christmas .

Will test the TR 4K, and the Disney WOW Blu-ray that also had me take the Audio off Auto and onto PCM to get any sound. The 790 will get a reprieve maybe?
post #3270 of 3484
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Originally Posted by p5browne View Post

Have purchased the Boxing Sale Yamaha RX-V675 since I noticed it has several additional DTS Decoders available.

The Yamaha Website Comparisons show virtually no differences, but did find this website that did in the Decoder Areas:

http://receivers.findthebest.com/compare/223-240/RX-V675-vs-Yamaha-RX-V673

Have also gotten the wife to get me the Total Recall 4K ReMastered Bluray for Christmas .

Will test the TR 4K, and the Disney WOW Blu-ray that also had me take the Audio off Auto and onto PCM to get any sound. The 790 will get a reprieve maybe?

p5browne,

What exactly are you attempting to accomplish with the use of the Yamaha?
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