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Sony brings new streaming Network Media Player box and a new remote running Google TV.
Sony NSZ-GS7 Network Media Player

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Edited by avf5 - 6/17/12 at 8:17pm
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Does anyone know about this?
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Sony Google TV set-to box (Sony NSZ-GS7) available to pre-order - here.
Edited by avf5 - 6/28/12 at 5:09am
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They have a GoogleTV based Blu-ray player in the works too so I wonder if that will come with Cinavia, I certainly hope not.
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Originally Posted by Alx330 View Post

They have a GoogleTV based Blu-ray player in the works too so I wonder if that will come with Cinavia, I certainly hope not.

Processor: Dual-core Marvell 1.2Ghz chip - here.
Edited by avf5 - 7/1/12 at 6:24am
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It appears it supports Plex. I'll wait until it goes on sale for $49.99 and get one.
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Here’re some key specs for Sony (NSZ-GS7) GTV set-top box and Sony video here.

Processor: dual-core Marvell 1.2Ghz chip and 8GB memory (4MB for system + 4MB for storage)
a Universal remote control w/ back-lit QWERTY keyboard & 3-Axis motion sensor for gaming: included

24p True Cinema: supported
Sony Entertainment Network: supported
3D - Streaming/ Video(from camcorder)/ Photo: supported

Dolby Digital Plus Decode-ability: supported
Dolby Digital Plus bit-stream : supported
Dolby digital to 5.1ch LPCM : supported
Dolby downmix to 2ch LPCM : supported
LPCM 2ch/ 6ch/ 8ch: supported

DLNA (DMP) : supported
2 USB ports/ FAT32/NTFS: supported

Auto Power Off (Auto Stand-by): supported
Power: 21W / Less than 0.5W/ 60Hz / AC 120V
Energy Star Compliant: Yes

HDMI-CEC: supported
Video Noise Reduction: supported
Parental Control: supported
Individual Speaker Setting: supported

Speaker (Bluetooth): Optional
OnLive Gaming Controller/ USB dongle: Optional

Supported Video formats
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3gpp/H264...................Yes (*.3gp, *.3g2)
3gpp/H264 -AVC...........Yes (*.3gp, *.3g2)
3gpp/ MPEG4-SP...........Yes (*.3gp9
AVI/H.264....................Yes (*.avi)
AVI/MPEG4 SP..............Yes (*.avi)
FLV.............................Yes (*.flv, *f4v)
MKV/H.264...................Yes (*.mkv)
MOV............................Yes (*.mov)
MPEG1 Video/PS...........Yes (*.mpg/*. mpe/* .mpeg)
MPEG2 Video/PS...........Yes (*.mpg/*. mpe/* .mpeg)
MPEG2 Video/TS...........Yes (*.m2t/*. mts/*.m2ts)
..................................Yes (*.mp4/*. m4v/*.mov/*.qt)
..................................Yes (*.mp4/*. m4v/*.mov/*.qt)
MPEG4/ MPEG4-SP........Yes (*.mp4/*. m4v/*.mov/*.qt)
MVC............................Yes (*.mvc)
WMV/ WMV10...............Yes (*.wmv/*. asf)
Xvid............................Yes (*.avi) firmware update



Supported Media - Music
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3gpp (AAC LC/LTP)...............Yes (*.3gp/*.3gpp)
3gpp (HE- AACv1/v2)............Yes (*.3gp/*.3gpp)
AAC LC/LTP.........................Yes (*.3gp/*. m4a/*.mp4)
AAC-LC...............................Yes (*.3gp/*. m4a/*.mp4)
AC3/DD...............................Yes (*.divx/*. mp4/*.mts)
HE-AACv1/ v2......................Yes (*.3gp/*. m4a/*.mp4)
LPCM/WAV..........................Yes (*.wav)
MDI....................................Yes (*.mid/*. xmf/*.mxmf/*. rttl/*.rtx/*.ota/*. imy)
MP3....................................Yes (*.mp3)
MPEG4- AAC-LC/LTP.............Yes (*.mp4/*. m4a)
MPEG4- AAC........................Yes (*.mp4/*. m4a)
MPEG4-HE- AACv1/v2...........Yes (*.mp4/*. m4a)
Ogg Vorbis..........................Yes (*.ogg)
WMA..................................Yes (*.asf/*. wma)


btw, this long list “Sony GTV box (second generation) Vs Logitech Revue” shows the device got considerable hardware upgrade & file support over Revue.
Edited by avf5 - 6/29/12 at 5:58pm
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This seems to be an updated version of the Revue. Much better hardware, neat remote. It has better file support, comes with Plex, updated OS but Google TV doesn't seem that much different. It is fairly pricey though not outrageous.It might make a nice Plex box but the Roku is half the price and does Plex quite well. The reviews are not all terrible but not great. It's very tempting even for someone who thinks Google TV is going nowhere (tempting because of Plex and the idea of Google TV ).

The real question is what is Sony doing. Do they want this competing with the PS3 or have they given up on the PS3 as a media centre? They are making odd moves especially with Microsoft making interesting moves with their XBox.

They are releasing this in a number of countries with what appears to be almost zero content in terms of coordination with cable companies and the like. At $100 it would make for a neat experiment. $200 is another issue.

It seems as though no-one is getting the TV. Still, one of the more interesting recent media players which says something about the current state of them.

philip
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So far, I still find the new iteration of GTV a hard sell, especially at this price point. For local playback, file support looks decent, but no mention of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD/MA bitstreaming, nor ISO support. For online playback, Roku still looks considerably better. The cable/satellite TV integration is one of GTV's main selling points, but it's more gimmicky than useful. Now, if it allowed you to record at least OTA, that would be something. I recall seeing this hardware earlier, so if it ever shows up, GTV may be more appealing, at least on the OTA/recording/DVR front, with their acquision of SageTV paying off.
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I am a bit excited to give GoogleTV a try this time around. I am undecided to go with this device or wait for the one that also has a blu-ray drive. There are a few apps in the Play Store that allows some pretty cool things that I would like to try. If the Nexus Q is as workable as they are alluding it to be that plus one of these GoogleTV boxes could mean whole house TV for me.
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Maybe it’s a little early to tell, but this long list “Sony GTV box (second generation) Vs Logitech Revue” shows the device got considerable hardware upgrade & file support over the Revue.
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If this thing sells well I wonder if Sony would incorporate GoogleTV into the PS4. Might help them compete with the Xbox a little more.
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If this thing sells well I wonder if Sony would incorporate GoogleTV into the PS4. Might help them compete with the Xbox a little more.

Nice hardware but Google TV is a bit too undefined to be appealing to most people. They would hurt the PS3 by doing this. I am quite surprised that Sony keeps supporting GTV. Perhaps Google is funding them. As it is they seem to be all over the map.

philip
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Nice hardware but Google TV is a bit too undefined to be appealing to most people. They would hurt the PS3 by doing this. I am quite surprised that Sony keeps supporting GTV. Perhaps Google is funding them. As it is they seem to be all over the map.
philip

Maybe but i guess with the added TV and ability to purchase movies from the Play store the usability of GoogleTV becomes something more to consider.
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Originally Posted by pmcd View Post

Nice hardware but Google TV is a bit too undefined to be appealing to most people. They would hurt the PS3 by doing this. I am quite surprised that Sony keeps supporting GTV. Perhaps Google is funding them. As it is they seem to be all over the map.
philip

Maybe but i guess with the added TV and ability to purchase movies from the Play store the usability of GoogleTV becomes something more to consider.

The thing is more is not always better. Sony already has access to content. They don't need GTV to deliver that. They have a great brand and the PS3 and their TV line are well thought of. They have nothing to gain by confusing the public. If they continue down the road of Android, Sony Smart TV, PS3, Windows laptops, Android phones and tablets they will ruin the company. They have to make up their minds. They are caught in a funny bind between iOS, Android and Windows. Pick one and stick with it. LG sort of had this problem and they have scaled back tablets. Their Smart TV's are turning into a confused mix of Android and their own approach.

It's an odd dilemma. Microsoft is making it hard for OEM's to make money in the mobile area, Apple doesn't want hardware partners and Samsung is the only one making money with Android. I can't help but think that Sony is making a mistake putting so much faith into Google but perhaps they had no choice.

Philip
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So far, I still find the new iteration of GTV a hard sell, especially at this price point. For local playback, file support looks decent, but no mention of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD/MA bitstreaming, nor ISO support. For online playback, Roku still looks considerably better. The cable/satellite TV integration is one of GTV's main selling points, but it's more gimmicky than useful. Now, if it allowed you to record at least OTA, that would be something. I recall seeing this hardware earlier, so if it ever shows up, GTV may be more appealing, at least on the OTA/recording/DVR front, with their acquision of SageTV paying off.

They do support Dolby audio. ISO will never be supported probably due to legal issues. I should imagine similar reasons might apply to HD audio. The Roku is indeed very nice. The $200 price for the Sony might prevent it from selling, but it's cheaper than a Smart TV!

On the one hand you have these companies pushing to make backups illegal (if they aren't already) and then they sell this. I just don't get it.

The cable integration is fraught with difficulties since those companies want GTV and anything like it to fail.

Philip
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The previous Sony box supported all HD audio formats since it was a Blu-Ray player. I'm not sure it output them properly as a DLNA player because I only have it hooked up to a TV in the bedroom. The new box may not have the support to save on licensing costs.
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Sony includes three digital movies from Google Play/YouTube (a $45 value) with Sony NSZ-GS7 (in-stock) - here
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I streamed few movies and shows from Netflix on the new Sony NSZ-GS7.
Here is what I found so far,

A new Netflix App,
  1. Includes “Netflix” and “Netflix just for Kids”.
  2. HD content video support in 1080p resolution & adaptive-streaming - PQ is great.
  3. HD 5.1 content audio support via HDMI in “5.1 Dolby Digital Plus” (5.1DD+) pass-through (bitstream) with global-settings options to transcode 5.1DD+ to either “5.1DD bitstream” or to “5.1PCM” - it doesn’t seem to be that many streaming players out there that offer all three audio-out (5.1DD+/5.1DD/5.1PCM) options from Netflix & support any old/new AVR.
  4. HD 5.1 content audio support via Optical in “5.1 Dolby Digital” (5.1DD) bitstream with global-settings options to output “5.1PCM”.
  5. HD & SD Stereo content audio support via HDMI or Optical in “2ch PCM” with sound simulation support (ex. PLII & Neo:6) - not like Revue 7.1 issues.
  6. Netflix App loading time is about the same as before but once it’s loaded the pages/thumbnails/icons display instantly.

In short, from what I’ve seen so fare, it’s a keeper – here.
Edited by avf5 - 7/7/12 at 11:36am
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If possible could you test out streaming .mkv blu-ray rips made with makemkv. I would like to know if the HD audio works without problems. I think you would need to use the GTVbox app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.gtvbox.videoplayer&hl=en If it works then I think I could use this to replace my Boxee Box finally. If this streamer doesn't support it any thoughts on the next GoogleTV blu-ray player that Sony is set to release after the NSZ-GS7 this fall having support for the HD audio.
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^^^
Hi, here is a recent HD audio test via HDMI-in. about .mkv I don’t use DLNA & as far as I know no word yet on the next GTV/BDP.

btw, i tested .mkv from a usb flash drive & it worked.
Edited by avf5 - 7/9/12 at 10:03am
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Thanks for the info. I went ahead and ordered one to test out.
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Thanks for the info. I went ahead and ordered one to test out.

Yes, I ordered one also mainly as a Plex client. It really does sound good.

Philip
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Originally Posted by pmcd View Post

Yes, I ordered one also mainly as a Plex client. It really does sound good.
Philip

I received my Sony GTV box yesterday and first impressions are that its a bit clunky. I tried out the GTVbox app and most of my media wouldn't play. I am now using Plex and that has mostly worked. A couple of shows won't display the video but that is a format issue. MKV's do work mostly. No HD Audio formats. One issue with Plex is that I hate the way shows are being displayed in the App. Each episode is showing as separate from the initial My TV Shows selection. Its possible it is supposed to be this way but its rather annoying to me. I see now why people say the GoogleTV experience isn't there yet and I hope an overhaul to the software is in order this summer.
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@cstmstyle

Hmm .., GTVBox worked great on my Revue. It played almost everything. The Plex UI on GTV is not ideal but the Plex people will fix that.

Direct Play should work great as there is good codec support. The overall GTV UI is a mess. They might never get it right. No consistency. Still, I had better hopes for the Sony. Could you perhaps give a few more details on the hardware and so on ...

Always the HD audio issue. None of these DLNA type things will do that. Fortunately it's not a priority for me. HD Audio seems to generate the most problem on all media players.

Philip
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I am still getting a feel for things as this is my first GoogleTV product with that said initially there is a lot of room for improvement to the software. The hardware in the Sony box seems capable enough. I tested out a few Blu-ray rips I did using MakeMkv and the videos played fine thru the Plex app. The Audio showed as Dolby Digital on my Denon receiver. The Sony media player app still shows as coming soon so hopefully now that the boxes are shipping that will get updated. I do like that I can now use Google Music in my living room without having to use my phone. I will continue to play around with stuff and update this thread.
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@cstmstyle
HD Audio seems to generate the most problem on all media players.
Philip

Why do you say that? I don't have any issues playing HD audio via Dune or PCH to my Onkyo AVR.
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Why do you say that? I don't have any issues playing HD audio via Dune or PCH to my Onkyo AVR.

You are talking higher end media players not using DLNA. Even the A300 seems to have some issues with some HD audio. The Boxee Box was criticized for its lack of HD audio support. It just seems to me that every time I read a complaint about some media player it involves audio or lack of disk image support or lack of certain subtitle support.

I don't think that HD audio is high on the list of priorities for people buying a $100 media player. Now, as far as Sony goes they presumably want people to buy Blu-ray players and disks. There is no incentive to make it easy to run iso full menu copies of disks, to run digital copies of video at the same quality as Blu-ray, etc... . They want you to run lower quality digital copies. I don't blame them although they do seem to be losing the battle.

The Dune and PCH are very niche products. The Dune in particular appeals to people wanting a no hassle experience playing their Blu-ray backups. That collection of people is tiny. The main use of mkv media players, as I have said many times, is to play content from dubious sources.

philip
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Spent some more time playing around and can't get the Plex app to play anything. Keeps saying this error message "player timed out while trying to load the video file" This happens on every file and pretty much right after I hit play. I did a search and seems like one other person on the plex app forum had the same issue and was waiting for a response. Anyone know what could be happening?
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