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post #391 of 969
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Originally Posted by WilliamR View Post

So did Idol win Thursday night in the ratings or did Big Bang beat it? I was confused by the article that starts with Fox wins Thursday night with Idol.

Big Bang beat it, which it has done for several weeks in a row. The final ratings were a 4.7 for BB, and a 4.4 for Idol. That 4.4 was the 2 hour rating (ratings generally go up for a particular show as the night goes on, so it was probably lower for that first half hour versus BB), which enabled Fox to "win" Thursday night when the other time periods are included.
post #392 of 969
In my humble opinion..

Jessica, is clearly the best singer in this competition.For her age,The girl is just way MORE advanced than everyone else. Really doesn't need to win Idol,and will get a contract regardless.

Skylar, has the potential to have a nice little country career.Didn't say she was great,but I could see her having a career.

Philip, is a love hate I think with most people. I actually love what he brings! Great performer,and sounds good,to me. If judges didn't constantly promote colton he could be right there at the end.

Colton is okay to me.. Got the good story going.

Hollie, for some reason only sounds good when shes belting out the higher,louder part of the sounds...Randy even noticed this.

Elise, really came on strong..Was impressed,but she won't win.

Everyone else don't really care about..Jimmy has essentially taken simon's more critical judging role. All 3 judges on stage are really,useless. Although do enjoy looking at me some J Lo!

brickie
post #393 of 969
Agree, Jimmy should really be on the judges' panel.
post #394 of 969
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Originally Posted by Jarod M View Post

Big Bang beat it, which it has done for several weeks in a row. The final ratings were a 4.7 for BB, and a 4.4 for Idol. That 4.4 was the 2 hour rating (ratings generally go up for a particular show as the night goes on, so it was probably lower for that first half hour versus BB), which enabled Fox to "win" Thursday night when the other time periods are included.

Idol only airs for 60 minutes on Thursdays.
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Idol only airs for 60 minutes on Thursdays.

That's still about 50 minutes more than it needs....
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Originally Posted by filtor View Post

That's still about 50 minutes more than it needs....

well said ....
post #397 of 969
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Originally Posted by filtor View Post

That's still about 50 minutes more than it needs....

Takes me about 5 minutes to watch it. I stop the DVR when Jimmy gives his assessments, and then I watch the final trainwreck performance of a save-me song.
post #398 of 969
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Originally Posted by skyehill View Post

Idol only airs for 60 minutes on Thursdays.

oops. similar effect though for what I was talking about. It's amazing that as bad and bloated as the results shows are now, they were even worse back when Simon was on the show. It used to be a lot of stalling until the end, when the loser would have to sing the song again that caused them to be kicked off the show. Made absolutely no sense.
post #399 of 969
Deandre - Yawn

Elise - Welcome back to the bottom 3. Truly awful. She needs to be great or she's at risk for going home every week.

Phillip - odd start, but great finish

Jacob - same as always. Belongs in church. Does nothing for me.

Hollie - Enjoy your stay in the bottom 3. Passionless. How often do you have to be told to stop over-thinking it before you listen? Her chance of making the finals is all but dead unless she finds some way to infuse passion into her singing.

Jessica - Good singer, but is bland beyond belief.

Colton - sounds like a million other "rock" singers over the past decade. When the best part of your song is your drummer, you failed. Yawn

Skylar - thank god she didn't sing that crapfest 9-to-5. She was over-praised for her off-key performance of Wind Beneath My Wings, but overall she was one of the best of the night.

Hated the duets with the exception of Elise and Phillip. I look forward to hearing Jimmy's feedback tomorrow.
post #400 of 969
OK - just now watching tonite's show on DVR (and up WAY tooo damn late) but felt COMPELLED to post (during watching) that the duet with Colton and Skylar of frikken 'Islands in The Stream' is .... wait ... am I reallllly watching/hearing this piece of cow dung on my DVR at this late of an hour? .... Must be a nightmare and I'm passed out ... nope = pinched myself and it's reallllly on my projection screen (what a waste of lamp-life)....

Seriously WHO in the ever-lovin HELL thought that was a good song for them to do??????????????? I mean HOLY SHIIIIIIIT - that's gotta be the absolute WORST waste of airtime EVAR in the history of broadcast television!!

And in case you couldn't tell .... I thought it absolutely sucked ... royally....

EDIT -- and can't BELIEVE the 'judges' actually praised that piece of crap... and with that 'performance' -- Folks - AI officially has Jumped The Shark.

OK - 'nuther EDIT -- simply felt compelled again to post that PP's attempt at Genesis' "That's All" was nearly equally atrocious ... and the blatant buttclenching effort to get his Bro'nLaw on the AI stage was nearly equally Shark-taser-esque. Evidently PP and his guitarist Bro are also related to Billy Bob as I was just waiting for Bro to ask for some 'biskits and mustard'.... And then the AI Judge seals flapped their flippers in approval... damn.... what a waste of airtime....
post #401 of 969
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Originally Posted by filtor View Post

OK - just now watching tonite's show on DVR (and up WAY tooo damn late) but felt COMPELLED to post (during watching) that the duet with Colton and Skylar of frikken 'Islands in The Stream' is .... wait ... am I reallllly watching/hearing this piece of cow dung on my DVR at this late of an hour? .... Must be a nightmare and I'm passed out ... nope = pinched myself and it's reallllly on my projection screen (what a waste of lamp-life)....

Seriously WHO in the ever-lovin HELL thought that was a good song for them to do??????????????? I mean HOLY SHIIIIIIIT - that's gotta be the absolute WORST waste of airtime EVAR in the history of broadcast television!!

And in case you couldn't tell .... I thought it absolutely sucked ... royally....

EDIT -- and can't BELIEVE the 'judges' actually praised that piece of crap... and with that 'performance' -- Folks - AI officially has Jumped The Shark.

OK - 'nuther EDIT -- simply felt compelled again to post that PP's attempt at Genesis' "That's All" was nearly equally atrocious ... and the blatant buttclenching effort to get his Bro'nLaw on the AI stage was nearly equally Shark-taser-esque. Evidently PP and his guitarist Bro are also related to Billy Bob as I was just waiting for Bro to ask for some 'biskits and mustard'.... And then the AI Judge seals flapped their flippers in approval... damn.... what a waste of airtime....

Uhhh, tell us what you really think next time.
post #402 of 969
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Originally Posted by skyehill View Post

Deandre - Yawn

Elise - Welcome back to the bottom 3. Truly awful. She needs to be great or she's at risk for going home every week.

Phillip - odd start, but great finish

Jacob - same as always. Belongs in church. Does nothing for me.

Hollie - Enjoy your stay in the bottom 3. Passionless. How often do you have to be told to stop over-thinking it before you listen? Her chance of making the finals is all but dead unless she finds some way to infuse passion into her singing.

Jessica - Good singer, but is bland beyond belief.

Colton - sounds like a million other "rock" singers over the past decade. When the best part of your song is your drummer, you failed. Yawn

Skylar - thank god she didn't sing that crapfest 9-to-5. She was over-praised for her off-key performance of Wind Beneath My Wings, but overall she was one of the best of the night.

Hated the duets with the exception of Elise and Phillip. I look forward to hearing Jimmy's feedback tomorrow.

Good analysis. I disagree that Skylar was over-praised. She was easily one of the best (if not THE best) of the night. She was the only singer on the show who was vastly improved over prior performances. My bottom three for the night had to be DeAndre and, unfortunately, Elise and Hollie. I'm guessing the judges will use their save tonight.

By the way, Skylar is so much better on AI than Raelyn is on the Voice that Blake Shelton must be envious.
post #403 of 969
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By the way, Skylar is so much better on AI than Raelyn is on the Voice that Blake Shelton must be envious.

Without a doubt. The networks should adopt Simon's idea and have a showdown of the top 4 people from each show. Run it during the summer and alternate the network it's on. It's still early on The Voice, but at this point I'd take 3 or 4 of Idol's "new" talent over Voice's second-chance talent.
post #404 of 969
Steven Tyler, who generally gives new meaning to the term 'nonsensical' had a rare moment of clarity last night when he made a throw away remark late in the proceedings saying something to the effect, "these singers of today can't handle 80's songs". How true. Kids today don't learn how to sing a melody (and the breath control, support, and pitch required), they learn how to riff. Riffing covers a multitude of sins. Never more evident when you heard them massacre songs with big melodies.
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Originally Posted by jandron View Post

Steven Tyler, who generally gives new meaning to the term 'nonsensical' had a rare moment of clarity last night when he made a throw away remark late in the proceedings saying something to the effect, "these singers of today can't handle 80's songs". How true. Kids today don't learn how to sing a melody (and the breath control, support, and pitch required), they learn how to riff. Riffing covers a multitude of sins. Never more evident when you heard them massacre songs with big melodies.

What's also amazing is that many of them are singing songs that they say they've never even heard before. When I was a kid, I listened to the "music of the day" (both rock and country) but was also very familiar with songs written and sung long before I was born including many other genres.
post #406 of 969
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Originally Posted by jandron View Post

Steven Tyler, who generally gives new meaning to the term 'nonsensical' had a rare moment of clarity last night when he made a throw away remark late in the proceedings saying something to the effect, "these singers of today can't handle 80's songs". How true. Kids today don't learn how to sing a melody (and the breath control, support, and pitch required), they learn how to riff. Riffing covers a multitude of sins. Never more evident when you heard them massacre songs with big melodies.

Yeah, I was surprised at how terrible Elise(a music teacher) handled Foreigner.
post #407 of 969
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Originally Posted by BoilerJim View Post

By the way, Skylar is so much better on AI than Raelyn is on the Voice that Blake Shelton must be envious.

Skylar doesn't look like Raelyn. It's not necessarily about "the voice" on The Voice.

Elise is still the best singer on the show (is that saying much at this point?). Dumb song choice. That song and "Against All Odds" (and probably every other song originally sung by Phil Collins, like "That's All") should be permanently banned from the show. The biggest problem for Elise is that she has a tendency to come off as a lounge singer, which isn't helped when she starts off the song sitting on a table. Elise was much better in the duet.

Jessica choosing to do another Whitney song was idiotic, especially when that song's stunning original vocal went viral a few weeks ago. And if that was her "letting go" then she should really go home. So boring.

Colton really wants to go home as the "go home" percentage for singers the week that they sing a Cindy Lauper song is about 95%. That might not be the case this week since male singers on Idol are favored so much in the voting, and there are still several women on the show.

The Jessica/Jacob duet was sickening.
post #408 of 969
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Originally Posted by BoilerJim View Post

What's also amazing is that many of them are singing songs that they say they've never even heard before. When I was a kid, I listened to the "music of the day" (both rock and country) but was also very familiar with songs written and sung long before I was born including many other genres.

This goes to the point that there is also not much variety on Idol, this year or any year. It used to be that they couldn't get "clearance" on a lot of songs. Now I think it is more of a case that the singers have an extremely limited knowledge of music that mostly consists of the last 15 years. That really shouldn't be the case considering the resources that kids have now, like listening for free on youtube and downloading songs individually. That's a lot easier than having to wait for older songs to play on the radio and having to buy the entire album for one or two songs.

British music was pretty dominant on the charts in the 80s, and yet it is mostly ignored on Idol. Instead we are treated to an unknown El Debarge song and "What a Feeling." Ugh.
post #409 of 969
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Originally Posted by Jarod M View Post

This goes to the point that there is also not much variety on Idol, this year or any year. It used to be that they couldn't get "clearance" on a lot of songs. Now I think it is more of a case that the singers have an extremely limited knowledge of music that mostly consists of the last 15 years. That really shouldn't be the case considering the resources that kids have now, like listening for free on youtube and downloading songs individually. That's a lot easier than having to wait for older songs to play on the radio and having to buy the entire album for one or two songs.

British music was pretty dominant on the charts in the 80s, and yet it is mostly ignored on Idol. Instead we are treated to an unknown El Debarge song and "What a Feeling." Ugh.

All good points with which I totally agree.
post #410 of 969
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Originally Posted by BoilerJim View Post

What's also amazing is that many of them are singing songs that they say they've never even heard before. When I was a kid, I listened to the "music of the day" (both rock and country) but was also very familiar with songs written and sung long before I was born including many other genres.

The same with me. I remember listening to the radio with my Dad while in the car or listening to some of the music he would play on the turntable. I think we were just paying attention when introduced to music of all types. I can't figure it out the exposure to music is unlimited now with the internet. If a song is well written it will always have a lasting effect on people. Listen to all of the remakes of popular songs these days.
post #411 of 969
I still have no idea what people see or hear in Deandre. He comes across like a Weird Al impressionist at times. Other than that, mostly OK performances for me.

I thought that was the worst both Jessica and Phillip have been this season. Phillip just looks a little sick right now, and Jessica was very pale in comparison to Whitney. And she needs to get rid of the diva alter ego thing - good grief!

Skyler was pretty decent, although I missed her usual energy since she was singing a ballad. Hollie great voice, but is better off just standing and singing as she looks too uncomfortable moving around the stage..

Joshua sounded OK, if you like that style, which I don't. And he picks a song from the 70's!!! He has a decade of songs to choose from, and he stills breaks the rules.
post #412 of 969
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As a kid in the '50's, I'd go no where without my transistor radio .. and at night, when I was supposed to be a sleep, I'd have that little biege plastic original earbud in use, listening to some far away station ... and, as they still do today, the same tunes rotated in and out of play until you could not help but memorize ..

I find it personally sad that so many so-called singers are not that well versed in songs ..
post #413 of 969
The Good

The Joshua Ledet and Jessica Sanchez duet which from start to finish was the most consistent song of the night. I nice blend of voice that suited their styles. I thought Joshua was solid in his solo. I do not like the song Jessica sang so even though it was performed well I still did not like it that much.

Skylar Laine: If you just take the last part of her song she easily had the best performance of the night. It seemed to me she was over-thinking the first half of that song.

The OK

Phillip Phillips, Elise Testone, Hollie Cavanagh, and DeAndre Brackensick did not really move the needle either way.

The Painfully Average

Colton Dixon is in no danger of going home, but he had the only performance of the night that I immediately wanted to hit the fast forward button.
post #414 of 969
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Joshua sounded OK, if you like that style, which I don't. And he picks a song from the 70's!!! He has a decade of songs to choose from, and he stills breaks the rules.


He didn't break any rules. Simply Red did a version of the song in 1989 that charted to 20.
post #415 of 969
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OK - just now watching tonite's show on DVR (and up WAY tooo damn late) but felt COMPELLED to post (during watching) that the duet with Colton and Skylar of frikken 'Islands in The Stream' is .... wait ... am I reallllly watching/hearing this piece of cow dung on my DVR at this late of an hour? .... Must be a nightmare and I'm passed out ... nope = pinched myself and it's reallllly on my projection screen (what a waste of lamp-life)....

Seriously WHO in the ever-lovin HELL thought that was a good song for them to do???????????????

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Originally Posted by Jarod M View Post

British music was pretty dominant on the charts in the 80s, and yet it is mostly ignored on Idol. Instead we are treated to an unknown El Debarge song and "What a Feeling." Ugh.

Don't remember the El Debarge song or if it was very popular for that era, but this show has always been about keying upon only the very most popular music of all time. The biggest hits and the biggest artists to draw the most audience interest. Apart from that one truly bizarre moment for Idol when Iggy Pop performed, there are no quirky deviations from the formula.

I didn't expect music from the Jam, the Smiths or Echo and the Bunnymen on this 80's night. I think Tears for Fears and Eurthymics songs have been sung before (though not as part of some 80's theme night), but beyond that... music from the Top 10 of the pop/r&b/country charts of that era is probably all you could rightly expect to hear on Idol. Then again, there were some other very popular songs/bands that might be considered slightly more 'edgy' or 'hip' of that time which did also hit it really big on the charts, at least in small doses. INXS comes to mind for a couple songs...
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He didn't break any rules. Simply Red did a version of the song in 1989 that charted to 20.

I know he obviously didn't break the rules, but for me, doing a cover of a cover is not in the spirit of the genre themes. It just renders the whole idea of the theme irrelevant if they can choose covers of songs that weren't part of the original theme.

Same thing with X Factor's movie night, where they were singing Michael Jackson songs plucked from a documentary on Michael Jackson, or some song they liked that played in the background of some movie.
post #417 of 969
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Originally Posted by Jarod M View Post

This goes to the point that there is also not much variety on Idol, this year or any year. It used to be that they couldn't get "clearance" on a lot of songs. Now I think it is more of a case that the singers have an extremely limited knowledge of music that mostly consists of the last 15 years. That really shouldn't be the case considering the resources that kids have now, like listening for free on youtube and downloading songs individually. That's a lot easier than having to wait for older songs to play on the radio and having to buy the entire album for one or two songs.

....

There's a great interview where Rick Wakeman (keyboardist for Yes) makes that point that the Old Grey Whistle Test used to serve the purpose of exposing kids to a wide variety of music and how listening to current radio and TV shows is like going into a store and only finding three kinds of tea on the shelf while in some back room there's a locked cupboard full of hundreds of varieties.
post #418 of 969
"Later" with Jools Holland on BBC is a long-running live music variety show that still serves the same purpose. Fairly diverse artist list, some very popular and some not so much.
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Don't remember the El Debarge song or if it was very popular for that era, but this show has always been about keying upon only the very most popular music of all time. The biggest hits and the biggest artists to draw the most audience interest. Apart from that one truly bizarre moment for Idol when Iggy Pop performed, there are no quirky deviations from the formula.

I didn't expect music from the Jam, the Smiths or Echo and the Bunnymen on this 80's night. I think Tears for Fears and Eurthymics songs have been sung before (though not as part of some 80's theme night), but beyond that... music from the Top 10 of the pop/r&b/country charts of that era is probably all you could rightly expect to hear on Idol. Then again, there were some other very popular songs/bands that might be considered slightly more 'edgy' or 'hip' of that time which did also hit it really big on the charts, at least in small doses. INXS comes to mind for a couple songs...

Many British acts charted in the eighties. That's why it was called The Second British Invasion. And there were many numbers 1 songs by British acts too, and lots more that hit the Hot 100 if not the top 10. That success was dying out by the end of the decade, and by the nineties there was more of a clear separation between what was successful across the pond and over here.
post #420 of 969
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Originally Posted by Jarod M View Post

Many British acts charted in the eighties. That's why it was called The Second British Invasion. And there were many numbers 1 songs by British acts too, and lots more that hit the Hot 100 if not the top 10. That success was dying out by the end of the decade, and by the nineties there was more of a clear separation between what was successful across the pond and over here.

Speaking of #1 British songs, I'd like to have seen Elise or Skylar singing "Total Eclipse of the Heart" or Joshua crooning "Red, Red Wine."
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