This may be straying off topic, but I will answer your question. A Tivo DVR (Premiere XL4) + a couple of IP STB's (Tivo Minis) would be more or less the same as the Ceton Q + Ceton Echos setup and more or less the same as the whole-home DVR system offered by cable company X. No doubt, what Ceton was going to deliver would best the Tivo, but alas. Still, you can buy a lifetime Tivo subscription upfront with the Tivo DVR for $399, then connect a couple of Minis to it and break even over the cable company (in my case FiOS) in just over 2 years time. YMMV, but I'd prefer to stop paying FiOS to rent their STB's each month. Tivo will be the only way for me to do that now, unless I decide to build and maintain an HTPC. Not likely.