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post #4081 of 7588
12/7/12 at 1:15pm
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Originally Posted by reggie14 View Post

I didn't mean to say otherwise. I was just saying that I think all the OCUR tuners currently use PlayReady, although it sounds like SiliconDust will be supporting DCTP-IP pretty soon, too.
I don't know much about Helix DRM (the other approved scheme), but its my understanding that DCTP-IP is set up for just protecting content during transmission, not storage. So I'm assuming DCTP-IP is off the table if you want to create a DVR.

Helix is no longer required by CableLabs. AFIK, PlayReady and DTCP-IP are the only two DRM schemes on the table. DTCP has been around since 2003, it is what protected content via 1394, and up until now has been useless. DTCP-IP has been CableLabs approved for 5 years, I don't know of a single successful implementation.

The other interesting thing to remember, is that the Echo supports PlayTo, otherwise known as a DLNA Digital Media Renderer. So if SD makes a DMC that can control its tuner, schedule recordings and play content to DMRs, then it could leverage the Echo to render the content on a TV -- assuming the Echo supports DTCP-IP.
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post #4082 of 7588
12/7/12 at 1:15pm
I'm using the HD Homerun Prime and was confirmed by Cox that we don't need a tuning adapter here in Las Vegas.

Is there any signal or notification provided when the library is finished loading? And I'd imagine that for a recorded program, it shouldn't take more than a few minutes for the ceton to be able to access it through the network. It's been over an hour now.
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post #4083 of 7588
12/7/12 at 1:34pm
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Originally Posted by Sammy2 View Post

Where does this leave people like me who have have a HDHR Prime and an echo if it is some sort of software soloution that ends up on the HTPC for the InfiniTV4??

You never know, maybe the ReadyNAS (http://www.readynas.com/?p=6658) will kick off the big change when DTCP is completed for the Prime.
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post #4084 of 7588
12/7/12 at 1:39pm
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Originally Posted by Bellagiofan View Post

I'm using the HD Homerun Prime and was confirmed by Cox that we don't need a tuning adapter here in Las Vegas.

Is there any signal or notification provided when the library is finished loading? And I'd imagine that for a recorded program, it shouldn't take more than a few minutes for the ceton to be able to access it through the network. It's been over an hour now.

are all your recordings WTV?
Make sure you have no extra codecs on your PC breaking things.
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post #4085 of 7588
12/7/12 at 1:57pm
They are all in WTV and the only codec I installed was Shark007 for viewing mkv files.
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post #4086 of 7588
12/7/12 at 1:57pm
Subject: Echo Settings Plugin Not Working

I cannot get the Echo Settings Plugin to show up in WMC. I followed the install instructions very carefully several times. The Echo is working as advertised.

I am using Echo version (2012.1202.1302) and Settings Plugin version (w7_20121204_12_12_04_0935).

I have set a firewall rule on the WMC PC to allow all IP connections (incoming/outgoing) for the Ceton's MAC address.

Any ideas??? Any work arounds to access to Echo settings??
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post #4087 of 7588
12/7/12 at 2:25pm
Are you accessing the settings from the Echo? Thats were they are.
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post #4088 of 7588
12/7/12 at 2:31pm
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Originally Posted by mariob33 View Post

I think no matter what you will need a secured location to store the content. In other words a PC/Device like the PS3 etc. The content no matter what is written to the device where it was set to be recorded.
I haven't tried, but with the hdhomerun if I record a copy protected show to HTPC HD1 can I watch that content on another HTPC? Not the extender but with another PC. I am betting no but would have to test. I bet it will work with a PS3 by recording to the drive in the PS. People like us with the HDhomerun better hope that usb port on the echo is for attaching external disks someday. then a plugin sounds feasible. Then again im just hoping again for more than the echo was planned to be smile.gif ..We can all hope cant we biggrin.gif .
At least from WMC, the file itself is secure and can be stored anywhere on your home network. But it will only play on the PC that originally recorded it - you can stream it over a network share to that PC though.
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post #4089 of 7588
12/7/12 at 2:45pm
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Originally Posted by mariob33 View Post

the green screen was introduced with this latest FW. Try simply changing sources on your AVR/TV or seat/reseat the HDMI cable. It seems to only impact certain TV's. I have a Pioneer 114 and get it whenever I don't follow a specific power on sequence of devices.

The 2012.1206 update should address this. I will post instructions on how to opt-in to this beta update shortly.
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post #4090 of 7588
12/7/12 at 2:47pm
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Originally Posted by Bellagiofan View Post

They are all in WTV and the only codec I installed was Shark007 for viewing mkv files.

there are certain settings which break liveTV in Shark
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post #4091 of 7588
12/7/12 at 2:56pm
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Originally Posted by mariob33 View Post

there are certain settings which break liveTV in Shark

But I'm talking about recorded TV. Live TV for the most part is working.
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post #4092 of 7588
12/7/12 at 3:03pm
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Originally Posted by Bellagiofan View Post

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Originally Posted by mariob33 View Post

there are certain settings which break liveTV in Shark

But I'm talking about recorded TV. Live TV for the most part is working.

I am actually suggesting that the codec pack is messing with the std MS deployed codecs needed to play WTV files. Try removing the pack test playback and then reinstall. You need to remove any variability or potential for conflict.
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post #4093 of 7588
12/7/12 at 3:07pm
FYI - The levels issues are fixed in FW 2012.1206.1720 (pre-beta ATM).
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post #4094 of 7588
12/7/12 at 3:08pm
Why cant i change video settings in the ceton echo plugin? all the other settings work.
the video settings use to work before the new firmware update.
How can i fix this?

Is there a new ceton echo plugin?

thanks
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post #4095 of 7588
12/7/12 at 3:26pm
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Originally Posted by mariob33 View Post

I am actually suggesting that the codec pack is messing with the std MS deployed codecs needed to play WTV files. Try removing the pack test playback and then reinstall. You need to remove any variability or potential for conflict.

This. Try uninstalling shark007 and see what happens. Next reinstall it and set shark to suggested settings and see what happens.

Also, can you play these in the HTPC outside the echo, though?
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post #4096 of 7588
12/7/12 at 3:27pm
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Originally Posted by babgvant View Post

FYI - The levels issues are fixed in FW 2012.1206.1720 (pre-beta ATM).

You mean color levels? How about 1080i? When did this go live, BTW?
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post #4097 of 7588
12/7/12 at 3:29pm
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Originally Posted by tootal2 View Post

Why cant i change video settings in the ceton echo plugin? all the other settings work.
the video settings use to work before the new firmware update.
How can i fix this?
Is there a new ceton echo plugin?
thanks

Which one do you have? The video settings were restored in the 1205 settings application release and the f/w after 1202 (was it 1204? I'm getting confused now!).
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post #4098 of 7588
12/7/12 at 3:38pm
I just downloaded the plugin and re installed it and it fixed the problem.

when i turn ceton on it says ceton then the tv says no single detected. I have to unplug ceton to fix this.
do you know how to fix this? Its kind of frustrating.

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Originally Posted by Sammy2 View Post

Which one do you have? The video settings were restored in the 1205 settings application release and the f/w after 1202 (was it 1204? I'm getting confused now!).
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post #4099 of 7588
12/7/12 at 3:45pm
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Originally Posted by bdraw View Post

The other interesting thing to remember, is that the Echo supports PlayTo, otherwise known as a DLNA Digital Media Renderer. So if SD makes a DMC that can control its tuner, schedule recordings and play content to DMRs, then it could leverage the Echo to render the content on a TV -- assuming the Echo supports DTCP-IP.

That would only work for live TV, wouldn't it?
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post #4100 of 7588
12/7/12 at 3:46pm
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Originally Posted by Sammy2 View Post

You mean color levels? How about 1080i? When did this go live, BTW?

The fix addresses incorrect handling of brightness and color processing. It does not include a fix for deinterlacing or jerky video when upscaling.
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post #4101 of 7588
12/7/12 at 3:51pm
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Originally Posted by tootal2 View Post

I just downloaded the plugin and re installed it and it fixed the problem.
when i turn ceton on it says ceton then the tv says no single detected. I have to unplug ceton to fix this.
do you know how to fix this? Its kind of frustrating.

This is an issue with EDID between the echo, TV and AVR if you have one. Power up order is important here but ceton is trying to make it less of an issue. I think that is where the green screen EDID/HDCP issue came from.
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post #4102 of 7588
12/7/12 at 3:52pm
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Originally Posted by babgvant View Post

The fix addresses incorrect handling of brightness and color processing. It does not include a fix for deinterlacing or jerky video when upscaling.

Well that is a step in the right direction. So now everybody isn't sun-burned anymore and flesh tones or more real?
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post #4103 of 7588
12/7/12 at 5:19pm
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Originally Posted by Bellagiofan View Post

Ok, I power cycled the ceton one more time and it fixed the green screen video problems. Everything is coming in clear now.
It crashed on its way over to ESPN from Fox News when I typed in 1030 (not hitting enter after). So I had to reboot it again.
I still can't get recorded shows or movies to play. They still get stuck on loading.
EDIT: And switching back to Fox News crashed it again. That's too frequent to keep crashing on channel changes.
EDIT AGAIN: I guess it's not necessarily a complete crash, more like a lockup, as I can hit the WMC button and access the menu and move up and down, even access the guide. I can get back to live TV by selecting a channel in the guide but the way it flashed and paused and flashed again (within a second or two) before eventually getting there makes it feel very unstable, and I'm noticing some very frequent pixelation on AMC HD now. So I just power cycled again and it took me right to AMC HD and the pixelation is much less than it was but still there. It's the end of an old film (Princess Bride) and soon Hannibal will start, so I'm going to leave it on this channel and see if the pixelation continues.

The green screen is more of a handshake thing with certain AV/TV sets, but we are fixing it up.

As for the locks on TV what is the power plugged into? are you using the power adapter that came with the unit?
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post #4104 of 7588
12/7/12 at 5:22pm
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Originally Posted by walkerct View Post

Subject: Echo Settings Plugin Not Working

I cannot get the Echo Settings Plugin to show up in WMC. I followed the install instructions very carefully several times. The Echo is working as advertised.
I am using Echo version (2012.1202.1302) and Settings Plugin version (w7_20121204_12_12_04_0935).
I have set a firewall rule on the WMC PC to allow all IP connections (incoming/outgoing) for the Ceton's MAC address.
Any ideas??? Any work arounds to access to Echo settings??

We have seen this for a few people and we hope to have it resolved in the next firmware update. From our findings it is a conflict with .net and the media center extensibility not registering it correctly..
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post #4105 of 7588
12/7/12 at 5:48pm
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Originally Posted by Sammy2 View Post

This. Try uninstalling shark007 and see what happens. Next reinstall it and set shark to suggested settings and see what happens.
Also, can you play these in the HTPC outside the echo, though?

Ok I uninstalled Shark007 codecs and was able to load the recorded program on the Ceton. Thanks for that.

I recognized that I'm having a sound problem with live tv where the audio just stops working after a few minutes. This was happening with the shark007 codecs installed so I was hoping I'd fix that issue when I removed them, but even after restarting the HTPC, it didn't solve the problem. Switching channels restores the audio. But staying on the same channel for more than 5-10 minutes and you lose the audio. Almost as if mute is activated, but there is a very slight crackling sound every now and then. It's really hard to notice with other noise going on in my office.

With Shark007 codecs removed, I'll need some other codec to play my mkv files.
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post #4106 of 7588
12/7/12 at 5:52pm
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Originally Posted by Bellagiofan View Post

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Originally Posted by Sammy2 View Post

This. Try uninstalling shark007 and see what happens. Next reinstall it and set shark to suggested settings and see what happens.
Also, can you play these in the HTPC outside the echo, though?

Ok I uninstalled Shark007 codecs and was able to load the recorded program on the Ceton. Thanks for that.

I recognized that I'm having a sound problem with live tv where the audio just stops working after a few minutes. This was happening with the shark007 codecs installed so I was hoping I'd fix that issue when I removed them, but even after restarting the HTPC, it didn't solve the problem. Switching channels restores the audio. But staying on the same channel for more than 5-10 minutes and you lose the audio. Almost as if mute is activated, but there is a very slight crackling sound every now and then. It's really hard to notice with other noise going on in my office.

With Shark007 codecs removed, I'll need some other codec to play my mkv files.

The crackling happen on the htpc directly as well? Try the various audio configurations under the echo plugin. If your bitstreaming the audio this may be the issue.
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post #4107 of 7588
12/7/12 at 6:08pm
Is FFWD on the echo for TV shows working SUPER S-L-O-W for anyone else? I hit the 30 second skip button, and it takes about 7 seconds to catch up and continue playing. Super annoying on shows with lots of commercials.
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post #4108 of 7588
12/7/12 at 7:36pm
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Originally Posted by mariob33 View Post

The crackling happen on the htpc directly as well? Try the various audio configurations under the echo plugin. If your bitstreaming the audio this may be the issue.

Ok so I reset everything completely, the HTPC, the ceton. I even took a shower. It looks like the audio cutting out issue is no longer happening. Maybe it was the shower.

I will still need an MKV codec though, what is the best one to use?
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post #4109 of 7588
12/7/12 at 7:55pm
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Originally Posted by Bellagiofan View Post

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Originally Posted by mariob33 View Post

The crackling happen on the htpc directly as well? Try the various audio configurations under the echo plugin. If your bitstreaming the audio this may be the issue.

Ok so I reset everything completely, the HTPC, the ceton. I even took a shower. It looks like the audio cutting out issue is no longer happening. Maybe it was the shower.

I will still need an MKV codec though, what is the best one to use?

I use LAV only.
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post #4110 of 7588
12/7/12 at 7:57pm
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Originally Posted by Munkee Boy View Post

Is FFWD on the echo for TV shows working SUPER S-L-O-W for anyone else? I hit the 30 second skip button, and it takes about 7 seconds to catch up and continue playing. Super annoying on shows with lots of commercials.

Mine seems ok. Not as snappy as direct on the htpc but less than 1-2 sec difference.
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