Official Ceton Echo Extender Info Thread - Page 142  

Yes that is correct. I help my review in the hopes that it would be fixed and gave up waiting after about a week without any updates.

Hey, it did me a favor since I could just learn the discreet on/discrete off and put it away. Otherwise I would have had to go off in search of the discrete codes.

xnappo

I've talked with a few people at Ceton, all of them are very confident that they'll be able to work out the problem with their partner. It really comes down to trying to get the latest and greatest hardware to work as advertised.

ROI on a DVR, that always makes me laugh. You do one when you buy a car too? I suspect if people did, more might ride the bus.

For ppl without universal learning remote, it is kind of odd and useless. But for ppl with universal learning remote, it is godsend. How can you ever get to the on/off discrete code easily without it? Ceton is a small company and places like Logitech Harmony won't bother to ask Ceton for its On/Off codes.

Although a small amount, I figure power savings from this unit over my Dish 922 to be ~$3/month, and less heat for the A/C to remove in the summer. I would assume most of Charter's equipment likely draw a bit more as some of Dish's boxes just a couple years older were drawing 10+ more watts than the 922.

Yes, TallWalrus is right. Andy is right about the remote, the idea I got is that they didn't like any of the available remotes, so they went with the one that would impact the price of the Echo the least. Building a "good" remote is a much bigger project than making an extender, most will just use the one they have. Initially I had planned to, but it seems that what the Echo can play right now is far from what Ceton wants it to be able to do, so it would've just been another, might be great if sections. This is actually a bit of an oversight. I finished most of the review before this was announced and then later decided not to add it for pretty much the reason you surmised.

It is useful for people with crapy programmable remotes that you can't enter hex codes into.

Thanks for the updated information. I hope they get it sorted out.

Well I'm just looking at how many months of renting a DVR from the cable company it takes to break even on the purchase of an echo. This one is maybe 7 months due to the DVR fee of $20/month but the next one would be 32 months because the DVR fees are already absorbed by the first one.. HAHA! I don't know how to put a value on the charter EPG with its clunky-ness and advertisement too. The WMC guide with Channel Logos plugin is pretty good.

I do consider the cost or ROI of buying a car, that's why my truck is nearly 12 years old now as it is a negative return in pure dollar terms. Plus, I ride a train to work every day.
Edited by Sammy2 - 12/11/12 at 2:24pm

Sorry for the slight detour, but if you're the same xnappo that hangs out in the JP1 forums, would you please post your upgrade over there? And if not, can you post those discretes here as pronto hex or JP1 codes?
TIA

Completely understood that, without the discrete on/off you can't program the discrete IR codet for automation.
That is a good thing to have so the discretes can be programmed, unless a CCF (pronto) file is released.

As to the remote it self, it is completly usless. Totally agree. My fingers can't even hit the buttons withput me looking at the remote, or the wrong ones are hit.

Yes, and I even setup a test one, because of the state of the Echo. I am trying to decide the best way to go. I would perfer not to have a pc in my HT. As would others. Not saying it's a bad thing. just for me I would perfer not to. I don't want to have to fix it every once in a while etc.

My test one is great, fanless and motion less. cheap and silent. I just don't want my movie store there as well, and if that is the main 7MC box, yada yada yada ...

It's much nicer haveing a VM and a server store, thats all.
Edited by skybolt - 12/11/12 at 2:44pm

I don't have to fix it once in a while. Tinker, yes. Fix, no. Although I am going to swap the SSD soon.

Most stuff I can do remotely from my office anyhow. It is only items specific to the setting (graphics and audio) that need to be adjusted in the HT and that is all set so there's nothing really to do.

I think you were rather nice in the review. I can see that they have earned some goodwill over the years.

Sure Dave - I didn't bother since it is just one code.

xnappo

Update on the remote.. or should I say re-hash.

I do remember jeremy or michael saying something about getting Echo listed as a device with logitec with the remote codes available there. I'm pretty sure that this is low priority for them right now.

Be careful with that statement. You can't enter hex codes for Logitech remotes IIRC. You have to send them over to Logitech support to enter them for you. I did that a while back.

Reported on the beta forums less than an hour ago (I just checked):

I won't be home for nearly 3 hours. Anybody else get this f/w update yet?

Not showing up on mine as available. Must be in beta testers queue only.

Not seeing one here.

Do you have your echo set for the beta server?

I know Omega was filtered by MAC ID previously. I think I got that one first. Just happened to be home at the time. I will check for Austin as soon as I get home tonight.

I checked beta and stable, not under either

You can enter Hex codes yourself... I followed this a while ago but have since switched to a URC MX-900 so I dont know if it's still valid

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Log in to your account on members.harmonyremote.com, then go to THIS link. You don't have to learn a button first. You create it on the fly. On that page, first click "Select an Active Device" and pick your device. Then click "Manual", paste your hex into the Data Value box under Pronto, then click "Process". If it's valid, click "Next' and you get the option to name your new command and click "Add".

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Careful? That is exactly why I said it. The Harmony might be the most popular programable remote, but it'll always be crap in my book because it isn't programmable enough. You can have your hand held while you go through a wizard if you want. Logitech bought the Harmony remote and then ruined it.

I think we have both said it time and time again... Harmony remotes = the best of the worst.

It can be done if you follow this guide,

No Austin f/w for me either.. yet.

JP1.

It's a shame Philips killed the Pronto lines. So much could be done with those remotes.

Just checked this morning - no firmware updates available for me yet.

Ray

So has anyone actually confirmed this? I'm still running the latest stable, is it worth changing to the beta track for firmware?