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post #5461 of 7562
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Originally Posted by Sammy2 View Post

That's correct.
Looks to be a pretty good one. Let's see how it works out. You go first!

Have updated both my echos and looks good. Dimming works well, and FF RW bug is gone. Audio and visuals still look ok for now. Obviously haven't done any extensive testing.
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Dimming? It's either on or off.
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Finaly got those LED's to turn off, eh?
post #5464 of 7562
Where is that option to turn off those LEDs. I updated firmware and the setting app and I didn't see the option.
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Originally Posted by drtdiver View Post

Where is that option to turn off those LEDs. I updated firmware and the setting app and I didn't see the option.
It's in the device webpage.
post #5466 of 7562
Anybody else ever hear their center channel speaker make a low-volume *pop* sound while pressing 30-second-skip on the Echo?
post #5467 of 7562
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Originally Posted by Sammy2 View Post

Nope. Still on the 2013.122 f/w.

Dang! I was in hopes....

Here after using the 2013.122 for a while is what I think.

1. Picture quality is very good to excellent for me in "native" mode on my "picky" Pioneer Elite Panels.
2. Have had one lock up but otherwise, very stable.

We have gotten used to the new scan window for >> and <<. They do need to make that window larger. As it stands, it is just a little too small which makes it easy to overrun in to the recorded show. I like the idea though. Also, it seems you need to "mute" the sound as it will continue to play in the background...

Growing pains! smile.gif

I can tell you that on my pioneer plasma or panasonic sets, certain content played back via the echo is unwatchable. The same content via other extenders - same setup (settings) is night and day difference. But, not actually fully putting It on Ceton, yet!

IMO it appears to be the provider that causes the echo to trip up versus the actual source programming. I say this only because my brother grabbed an echo to try out and same channels that look wacked on my fios system look pretty good on his comcast system. This is all based off latest official non- beta FW and same Panasonic TV.
post #5468 of 7562
2013.129 is the best yet!
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Originally Posted by Sammy2 View Post

2013.129 is the best yet!
I've had it reboot on me a couple of times after fast forwarding.
post #5470 of 7562
I finally gave up on the Echo (for now) and got the much-cheaper XBox ($199.99 - $50 gift card rebate - $12.50 FatWallet CashBack). After limited testing, the recorded TV shows that caused problems on the Echo play fine. No 29/59 bug is apparent and deinterlacing seems to work. The image appears a bit softer and darker than the Echo, but I don't have a side-by-side comparison so I could be wrong.

Eventually I'll try the XBox wirelessly upstairs. The XBox controller is quite a trip to use as a TV remote. Maybe an MCE remote is in my future, or I'll break down and reprogram my Harmony.

It's hard to see a future for the Echo unless Microsoft sells out of its stock of cheap XBox 360's and charges $$$$ for the coming XBox 720. Ceton waited too long and then screwed up the Echo roll-out.
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So far so good for me. I am so glad they corrected the >> <<! Makes it easier to use and the WAF had returned!

WMC is becoming the workhorse in the house. I am slowly getting away from DirecTV. Goal is WMC for OTA stuff we like to watch, and Apple TV / iTunes for the "cable" shows we like.

I smell savings in the future! But, I will wait it out until the Echo is super stable... Just in case.
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Originally Posted by Ken.F View Post

I've had it reboot on me a couple of times after fast forwarding.

I have not had enough time to test thoroughly to see if this happens.
post #5473 of 7562
We ran through 2 shows last night, an hour each. No issues with FF and rebooting for us....
post #5474 of 7562
Latest beta still ocassionally boot up with off spec timing for video signal. Causing my monitor to not display any thing other than a warning message that the signal format is not supported. Same **** as before.
post #5475 of 7562
In limited testing >> , << , >| , |< work exactly as they do in WMC on the host HTPC as there is no preview balloon window using << or >> . The echo has not crashed. The PQ and AQ is every bit as good as my HTPC for those formats it does play.
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Sent back my products yesterday. The Echo and Infini4. I'm deciding to give up on cable altogether. Time Warner just can't support CableCard and I was having issue after issue with them. Sorry Ceton, loved the idea behind the products. However, when you are dependent on a company as inept as TWC you are going to lose out. I'm going to keep following this thread as I look to cut the cord completely and go straight OTA. If the Echo ever gets close to the 360, I may certainly revisit it for future needs.
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When using a USB ir receiver is there a way to turn off the internal ir receiver? Also when using a USB ir receiver does the remote still act goofy with button presses? (Like double presses and such)
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Can I jump in with a quick question? Our Echo is in a loft above the same room with the HTPC, no walls etc. Use a Harmony 990 for the HTPC, but want to get a Harmony Remote (650 or a refirb 990) to use on the Echo. Any chance we are going to have signal conflicts? The Echo's Harmony will first turn on the same brand of TV (Sony) as the HTPC, then switch inputs over to the Ceton's, then all commands will run in the Ceton's WMC. The HTPC's WMC programming into the 990 was done via an Ortek remote and uses its USB dongle.
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Originally Posted by sgbroimp View Post

Can I jump in with a quick question? Our Echo is in a loft above the same room with the HTPC, no walls etc. Use a Harmony 990 for the HTPC, but want to get a Harmony Remote (650 or a refirb 990) to use on the Echo. Any chance we are going to have signal conflicts? The Echo's Harmony will first turn on the same brand of TV (Sony) as the HTPC, then switch inputs over to the Ceton's, then all commands will run in the Ceton's WMC. The HTPC's WMC programming into the 990 was done via an Ortek remote and uses its USB dongle.

Do you mean 890? That's an RF remote and could cause issues. If it is a IR remote like the 880 then it probably won't.

You may also like to take a look here for more information about changing the IR codeset for the echo and/or HTPC.
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Originally Posted by drtdiver View Post

When using a USB ir receiver is there a way to turn off the internal ir receiver? Also when using a USB ir receiver does the remote still act goofy with button presses? (Like double presses and such)

IDK the answer to your first question but I haven't had too much of an issue with remote sensitivity for a couple months now.
post #5481 of 7562
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Originally Posted by Sammy2 View Post

IDK the answer to your first question but I haven't had too much of an issue with remote sensitivity for a couple months now.

Yeah I've always had sensitivity issues with it. Unless I point the remote at an adjacent wall to the echo the remote function is pretty unreliable.
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Originally Posted by Sammy2 View Post

Do you mean 890? That's an RF remote and could cause issues. If it is a IR remote like the 880 then it probably won't.
confused.gif An RF remote should be less likely to cause issues than an IR remote in such a situation. The RF remote will send signals to a small box that then has IR emitters that attach to the devices you want to control. That should make it far less likely to accidentally control devices in the other area in the open space that sgbroimp asked about. The IR versions of the Harmony remotes send out a pretty strong IR signal, which would have a lot more potential to control both TV's, etc. at the same time.
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You may also like to take a look here for more information about changing the IR codeset for the echo and/or HTPC.
Yes, this is good advice.
post #5483 of 7562
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

confused.gif An RF remote should be less likely to cause issues than an IR remote in such a situation. The RF remote will send signals to a small box that then has IR emitters that attach to the devices you want to control. That should make it far less likely to accidentally control devices in the other area in the open space that sgbroimp asked about. The IR versions of the Harmony remotes send out a pretty strong IR signal, which would have a lot more potential to control both TV's, etc. at the same time.
Yes, this is good advice.

If an RF remote is used in both locations using the RF to IR repeater, yes it will cause problems. If the IR repeater is not used in one of the locations, you might as well go with an IR remote in that location. The IR signal will not get through the wall to the other room so IMHO it is less likely to cause the problems with which the OP is concerned.
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Originally Posted by RockinRay View Post

We ran through 2 shows last night, an hour each. No issues with FF and rebooting for us....
I moved the Echo to another room this morning and connected it directly to the router. I'm not having any trouble with it today. Maybe my trouble was network related.
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My bad. The unit is an 880 and I appreciate your inputs all. I guess if I am having no conflicts now and just copy the echo commands into it (as learned or raw) I should not have a conflict after I do that, right? I mean, I will try using s standard command set first of course....
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Originally Posted by Sammy2 View Post

If an RF remote is used in both locations using the RF to IR repeater, yes it will cause problems.
Unless there's a way to pair the remote to the RF to IR repeater, that would be true. I'm not familiar enough with the Harmony line to know if they pair them or not - if not, that would be a pretty major oversight as it could cause lots of issues for neighbors in apartment buildings if more than one is using a Harmony with RF.
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If the IR repeater is not used in one of the locations, you might as well go with an IR remote in that location. The IR signal will not get through the wall to the other room so IMHO it is less likely to cause the problems with which the OP is concerned.
He said that there isn't a wall separating the 2 areas:
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Our Echo is in a loft above the same room with the HTPC, no walls etc.

So stray IR commands could definitely cause issues for him depending on how the equipment is situated in the 2 areas.
post #5487 of 7562
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

Unless there's a way to pair the remote to the RF to IR repeater, that would be true. I'm not familiar enough with the Harmony line to know if they pair them or not - if not, that would be a pretty major oversight as it could cause lots of issues for neighbors in apartment buildings if more than one is using a Harmony with RF.

There are three actaully, the main IR repeater and two smaller IR repeaters that can be isolated to a piece of equipment. I have not bothered to do this with mh H-900 because I haven't had to.
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

He said that there isn't a wall separating the 2 areas:
So stray IR commands could definitely cause issues for him depending on how the equipment is situated in the 2 areas.

My bad. I thought he said there was a wall. Yeah, in that scenrio an IR remote could cause problems if the signal is bouncing off the ceiling or something and gets picked up in the adjacent space.
Edited by Sammy2 - 2/1/13 at 10:52am
post #5488 of 7562
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Originally Posted by BenJF3 View Post

Sent back my products yesterday. The Echo and Infini4. I'm deciding to give up on cable altogether. Time Warner just can't support CableCard and I was having issue after issue with them. Sorry Ceton, loved the idea behind the products. However, when you are dependent on a company as inept as TWC you are going to lose out. I'm going to keep following this thread as I look to cut the cord completely and go straight OTA. If the Echo ever gets close to the 360, I may certainly revisit it for future needs.
Did you open a support ticket with us? Please PM me your ticket number. TWC does most certainly support CableCARD. We have thousands and thousands of customers using the InfiniTV on TWC, including myself
post #5489 of 7562
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Originally Posted by sgbroimp View Post

My bad. The unit is an 880 and I appreciate your inputs all. I guess if I am having no conflicts now and just copy the echo commands into it (as learned or raw) I should not have a conflict after I do that, right? I mean, I will try using s standard command set first of course....

That is an IR remote (I have one and an H-900 too). Read above about issues with stray IR signals. You may want to look at this specific post on TGB.
post #5490 of 7562
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Originally Posted by BenJF3 View Post

Sent back my products yesterday. The Echo and Infini4. I'm deciding to give up on cable altogether. Time Warner just can't support CableCard and I was having issue after issue with them. Sorry Ceton, loved the idea behind the products. However, when you are dependent on a company as inept as TWC you are going to lose out. I'm going to keep following this thread as I look to cut the cord completely and go straight OTA. If the Echo ever gets close to the 360, I may certainly revisit it for future needs.

I tried that for a bit but never actually cut the cord as I could see losing content I enjoy. Using a tuner and extender saves me a boatload of money though.
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