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post #7411 of 7721
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Originally Posted by mariob33 View Post

Ok, you think what you must, but for two years time it will take you to recoup that HTPC DVR , tuner, HD and extenders I will have spent less for more than you have. All you have is capability to watch and record 4 shows at once. Can you record 4 yet still watch 8? I riddle you that. No I can and it will cost me in equipment alone to accomplish is a 4 Room MRDvr $46.99 pack and and extra 16.99 for the second DVR. I could get bold grab 2 esata 2tb harddrives $99 each and we have equal storage. So your super available only in your land versus mine available to the masses.

I can record 12 shows if I want. Can't say why I would want to nor have I tried. I absolutely can record 8 shows and watch 5. I'm guessing the 4 pack you mention is in addition to the FIOS service and ditto the second DVR? Also, my break even was much quicker than 2 years but my previous hypothetical was for all new equipment and a 4 zone system. I like the hobby, as stated but the math is still on the Ceton's side. I also can't stand math that does not include taxes. your $46.99 deal would be about $60 here out of my pocket.So, if you are going to compare compare total true monthly cost for equipment charges. That is what we are really talking about. What does it cost in monthly lease charges to get the system you mention. A simple eSata drive solution des not build in any fault protection. That solution can just as eaily be accomplished with an HTPC for minimal dollars.

BTW, I do not work for Ceton nor do I work in the industry. My math is just simple and straight forward. I still don't get why you can't just quote a soup to nuts monthly costy $46.95 is not that number.
post #7412 of 7721
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Originally Posted by SeattleHTGuy View Post

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Originally Posted by ajhieb View Post

Then stop harping about the financial benefits, if you're not willing to acknowledge the financial downsides.

Dismissing it as a hobby is no different than mariob dismissing your "advantages" as things that he could do without.

You act as if everybody not using a cablecard/WMC setup is pissing money out the window every month, and that is not necessarily the case. It may be for you, but your case is FAR from typical.

But those financial benefits are real. Hobby is real too. So let's try adding. 1 Ceton Card $200. 1 simple PC $400. 3 WME's $250. 4 Zones $850. Can anyone else offer that for the cost of the lowest level cable packake and what would have to be 4 DVR's? Is it bugproof? No, is it difficult to use absolutely no. Math wins. Here it Washington there simply is no other low cost solution.


http://www.directv.com/technology/genie_receiver
post #7413 of 7721
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Originally Posted by mariob33 View Post

http://www.directv.com/technology/genie_receiver

Did you do the math on the Direct TV? It's $43 a month for equipment charges for 4 boxes. You get some discount to start but that's it. Also, the package is about $80 per month. You get some discounts to start as well but what do I do for the laundry room, kitchen, and other locations? More boxes, more cost. Granted most consumers don't have that many zones but for me, I can get a simple digital cable box from Comcast ( up to 3) for free and cover more zones. Also, all costs are quoted without tax. So now I am up over $50 for equipment alone and I get a whopping 1TB of storage, no ability to consolidate content, no movies, no music library, no MOG. and not enough viewing areas covered for our home.

I understand ease of use is often better elsewhere than a HTPC based system. If you argued this point I would give in easily but not cost. You are not offering cost solutions. Yes, an extra $1K per year I use on toys but it gives me the $1K to budget for fun. As opposed to flushing dollars away forever. Going down to watch a show. I am not going to convince anyone here. However, why do those who hate the HTPC solution spend so much time at an HTPC/WME thread? Envy, who knows....
post #7414 of 7721
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Originally Posted by SeattleHTGuy View Post

But those financial benefits are real. Hobby is real too. So let's try adding. 1 Ceton Card $200. 1 simple PC $400. 3 WME's $250. 4 Zones $850. Can anyone else offer that for the cost of the lowest level cable packake and what would have to be 4 DVR's? Is it bugproof? No, is it difficult to use absolutely no. Math wins. Here it Washington there simply is no other low cost solution.

It is a hobby for you. So you discount the value of your time.

When people mention the value of their time you ignore it. Are you suggesting that it should be a hobby for everyone or are you talking out both sides of your mouth?

You keep talking about the math, but you ignore the tangible quantifiable value of a person's time that must be invested to get a setup like you describe operational. Math wins, but only if you include all of the numbers.

You have a system that works for you and you're happy with it. That's great. I wish everyone could be happy with their TV setup, but what you've described for you, simply isn't viable for the VAST MAJORITY of people.

If you're just trying to make a case for why you like your system, point taken, and congrats. It sound like you have a great setup that works well for you and your family as well as your tech-savvy friends. If you're trying to suggest that using a WMC setup is a cheaper and thus better solution for the rest of the cable-watching world, you are quite simply wrong. Not everyone has a provider that offers the same service at the same cost as yours. Not everyone considers farting around with their whole home DVR as a hobby. I'm actually on your side. I have a CC tuner and am using extenders in my home. I really like my setup now. I have two Echo's that I'm eager to put back in service once the meet or exceed the performance and features of the XBox as an extender. But to suggest that any idiot can slap together some computer parts and make a functional HTPC is just flat out wrong. You think it's easy because it is your hobby, and because you've been working with this stuff and because you've taken a great deal of knowledge that you've accumulated over the years for granted. Most people don't have 1/20th the knowledge that you or I or most of the people around here have when it comes to putting together an HTPC.

And one last thought for you, since you're so fond of economics... Look into "supply and demand" and let me know how much you think those "cheap" extenders that aren't being produced anymore will be going for if everybody decides to go the HTPC route. You get cheap Extenders because WMC setups are complex and beyond the average person. If it was the "best" way to get a whole home DVR for the majority of people, Linksys et al would still be making extenders, and you wouldn't be able to pick them up for a fraction of their retail price on eBay. To quote the movie Road Trip Of course it's harder, that's what makes it a shortcut. If it was easier, it would just be "the way"
post #7415 of 7721
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Originally Posted by mariob33 View Post

http://www.directv.com/technology/genie_receiver

Did you do the math on the Direct TV? It's $43 a month for equipment charges for 4 boxes. You get some discount to start but that's it. Also, the package is about $80 per month. You get some discounts to start as well but what do I do for the laundry room, kitchen, and other locations? More boxes, more cost. Granted most consumers don't have that many zones but for me, I can get a simple digital cable box from Comcast ( up to 3) for free and cover more zones. Also, all costs are quoted without tax. So now I am up over $50 for equipment alone and I get a whopping 1TB of storage, no ability to consolidate content, no movies, no music library, no MOG. and not enough viewing areas covered for our home.

I understand ease of use is often better elsewhere than a HTPC based system. If you argued this point I would give in easily but not cost. You are not offering cost solutions. Yes, an extra $1K per year I use on toys but it gives me the $1K to budget for fun. As opposed to flushing dollars away forever. Going down to watch a show. I am not going to convince anyone here. However, why do those who hate the HTPC solution spend so much time at an HTPC/WME thread? Envy, who knows....

Since senility is setting in and something you didn't need is on TV..ill leave you with my current setup via fios..

https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=2BF37497C006AC6A!116&authkey=!AMAWcOpUrvzLjTM


Not 400 but covers the whole home and when these two CETON devices work as well as the linksys/xbox I can get the inlaws to use em. NET I sunk 249, 650, and 159 on nothing but unfulfilled promiss.

Enjoy your movie!
post #7416 of 7721
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Originally Posted by SeattleHTGuy View Post

Did you do the math on the Direct TV? It's $43 a month for equipment charges for 4 boxes. You get some discount to start but that's it. Also, the package is about $80 per month. You get some discounts to start as well but what do I do for the laundry room, kitchen, and other locations? More boxes, more cost. Granted most consumers don't have that many zones but for me, I can get a simple digital cable box from Comcast ( up to 3) for free and cover more zones. Also, all costs are quoted without tax. So now I am up over $50 for equipment alone and I get a whopping 1TB of storage, no ability to consolidate content, no movies, no music library, no MOG. and not enough viewing areas covered for our home.

I understand ease of use is often better elsewhere than a HTPC based system. If you argued this point I would give in easily but not cost. You are not offering cost solutions. Yes, an extra $1K per year I use on toys but it gives me the $1K to budget for fun. As opposed to flushing dollars away forever. Going down to watch a show. I am not going to convince anyone here. However, why do those who hate the HTPC solution spend so much time at an HTPC/WME thread? Envy, who knows....

Ease of Use (specifically installation) has been brought up multiple times and you've dismissed it, not given in, so I'm calling bull**** on that.

The cost of time has been brought up multiple times and you've dismissed it because you consider it a hobby, so I'm calling bull**** on that one too.

And nobody here hates the HTPC solution. I have one and I'm quite happy with it. We are simply pointing out that it isn't the best solution in every case, which is a point that seems you are incapable of grasping. You seem to determined too look down your nose at everyone that doesn't have a HTPC solution at home.

Screw it. I'm tired of arguing. You're right everyone else is wrong. Everyone should go on eBay right now, and buy some extenders, and a cablecard tuner. Slap it all together (since everyone is evidently born with the innate ability to assemble and configure a WMC PC) and let the savings begin!
post #7417 of 7721
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Originally Posted by mariob33 View Post

No, your missing the point! Two fios DVR's (including MRDVR) and 6 HD STB's (1st MRDvr + 4 hd stbs are $46.99 sold as a bundle) would cost me an extra appx $80 (appx) dollars per month. My triple play gives me access to all premium channels, 75/35 Internet, and home phone for 119 per month all delivered via fiber to my home then coax distributed internally. NET: total monthly outlay would equal $200 + about $20 in taxes. That's 220 total monthly.

I do not use extenders since I have only one TV room, but I do have a Ceton tuner and the FiOS Ultimate HD triple play 50/25 plan. Therefor I only have the cablecard expense and nothing else, wrt STBs. DRVs, etc. Viewing the bill on www.myverizon.com says:

Total Amount Due
by May 16, 2013
$90.88

My plan is actually $79.99 and an additional $3.99 for the cable card. Taxes have to be included in the cost of your service because my lack of additional rented hardware means my taxes are far lower, I pay a total of only $6.90 in taxes and surcharges since I cannot be charged taxes and other fees for the items I am not renting.

I did a check and I can upgrade to the 75/35 plan for an additional $10 a month, which I will assume would increase my bill to $110 a month to make the math easy (most likely it is lower, but I like easy math and I would need a second CableCard to get more than 4 shows at once). If your total is $220 a month and mine would be $110 a month then I am saving $110 a month by not renting the STBs and PVRs and such. In one year, that would be $1,320. That is a lot of money. Of course, the Verizon extenders have more capability than the current batch of WMC extenders do (or at least do it better), so for straight up TV watching they are superior. Also, I cannot use On Demand - but I never used it when I had a STB so for me that is not an issue.
post #7418 of 7721
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Originally Posted by mariob33 View Post

No, your missing the point! Two fios DVR's (including MRDVR) and 6 HD STB's (1st MRDvr + 4 hd stbs are $46.99 sold as a bundle) would cost me an extra appx $80 (appx) dollars per month. My triple play gives me access to all premium channels, 75/35 Internet, and home phone for 119 per month all delivered via fiber to my home then coax distributed internally. NET: total monthly outlay would equal $200 + about $20 in taxes. That's 220 total monthly.

I do not use extenders since I have only one TV room, but I do have a Ceton tuner and the FiOS Ultimate HD triple play 50/25 plan. Therefor I only have the cablecard expense and nothing else, wrt STBs. DRVs, etc. Viewing the bill on www.myverizon.com says:

Total Amount Due
by May 16, 2013
$90.88

My plan is actually $79.99 and an additional $3.99 for the cable card. Taxes have to be included in the cost of your service because my lack of additional rented hardware means my taxes are far lower, I pay a total of only $6.90 in taxes and surcharges since I cannot be charged taxes and other fees for the items I am not renting.

I did a check and I can upgrade to the 75/35 plan for an additional $10 a month, which I will assume would increase my bill to $110 a month to make the math easy (most likely it is lower, but I like easy math and I would need a second CableCard to get more than 4 shows at once). If your total is $220 a month and mine would be $110 a month then I am saving $110 a month by not renting the STBs and PVRs and such. In one year, that would be $1,320. That is a lot of money. Of course, the Verizon extenders have more capability than the current batch of WMC extenders do (or at least do it better), so for straight up TV watching they are superior. Also, I cannot use On Demand - but I never used it when I had a STB so for me that is not an issue.

Like we originally started, to cover all my rooms I would need to spend to buy another tuners + another 4-5 echo's.

I currently pay this,

https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=2BF37497C006AC6A!116&authkey=!AMAWcOpUrvzLjTM

And the 119.00 + ~20 in taxes. I could drop build a fancy htpc then I'm the truck roll. Just no time for that. I do agree the value equation at on room scales real easily.
post #7419 of 7721
A few other things that need to be considered when comparing numbers...

Taxes should be included when looking at total cost, they vary greatly from state to state so comparing the taxes on one setup in one state is not an apples to apples comparison to another setup in a different state.

Just looking at equipment rental fees (and taxes) when comparing STBs to Extenders isn't a direct comparison either. You also have a maintenance agreement on the equipment that you rent. What does a replacement Extender cost if yours fails? I'll tell you what a replacement STB from the Cable Co would cost. $0.00

Time should be included as well. "time is money" isn't just a saying. It is a tangible quantifiable fact.

Utilities (specifically power) should also be included if you want to do it right.

Depreciation is important too. Your equipment will eventually be worthless and likely need to be replaced at some point. People leasing equipment don't have to worry about the value of their STB's dropping and they should always have relatively new equipment.

The point being, if you're going to make a legitimate cost/benefit analysis you need to look at TOTAL cost of ownership. If I'm working for a big company that's about to buy 1000 laser printers, I better look at more than just the cost of the equipment. I need to know the price of consumables, the rate they are consumed, the mtbf for the printers, and how much it's going to cost me to perform maintenance (scheduled and otherwise) on those printers (hint, the guy you're paying $20/hr usually costs the company around $30/hr when you include SS contribution and benefits, etc) and depreciation also comes into play as well.

Suffice it to say, there's a reason a lot of big companies lease equipment like that with a maintenance contract instead of buying it outright and doing their own maintenance. The reason is the bottom line. Sometimes it's cheaper to lease than it is to own.
post #7420 of 7721
Damn, here I thought the long awaited Android happened and this was the Ceton Echo extender thread. Silly wishful thinking me. Oh well, back to my DirecTV Genie until something REAL happens! rolleyes.gif
post #7421 of 7721
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Originally Posted by ajhieb View Post

Ease of Use (specifically installation) has been brought up multiple times and you've dismissed it, not given in, so I'm calling bull**** on that.

The cost of time has been brought up multiple times and you've dismissed it because you consider it a hobby, so I'm calling bull**** on that one too.

And nobody here hates the HTPC solution. I have one and I'm quite happy with it. We are simply pointing out that it isn't the best solution in every case, which is a point that seems you are incapable of grasping. You seem to determined too look down your nose at everyone that doesn't have a HTPC solution at home.

Screw it. I'm tired of arguing. You're right everyone else is wrong. Everyone should go on eBay right now, and buy some extenders, and a cablecard tuner. Slap it all together (since everyone is evidently born with the innate ability to assemble and configure a WMC PC) and let the savings begin!

What time does it take to open a box, plug it into a cat 5 cable, go to WMC and punch in an 8 digit code? Do this 3 times and you have a 4 location DVR. Yes, you have to one time tell WMC where to put your shows and one time run thru the Ceton stuff but that's it. Claim whatever you want but this stuff is not that difficult.

You do not need to build a PC as well. Just buy one. I keep typing this, you keep ignoring. Used WMEs have gone up in value due to the Ceton phenomenon but perhaps the Echo comes down in price? Who knows. Used XBox's are going to be everywhere in two weeks and much cheaper. I think you might see $40 XBox's soon.

This is a hobby for me and I would not recommend a 10 zone distributed system for my parents but good lord you and Mariob keep hounding on cost and keep not getting the break even point. Leasing always, always, always costs more. If you are fine with that...... Good for you but as I keep typing math is math and your math blows. My total three service cable bill is $124. A similar cable distributed system would be three times or more that cost. Dish and Direct TV can't do it as far as I can tell or costs much more as well. I don't get all my content on one device with those other solutions. If you also think a wasted $1k per year over a lifetime is meaningless; it's not and that's why I can afford hobbies.

Bottom line. You won't find me on a Fios blog acting like An expert? I don't comment on Direct Tv or Dish either. You are on a WMC blog acting like a WMC expert. What's with that? As stated, haters hate. I also never said this solution was for everyone and all who do not go down my path are stupid. It's just that cost is not the reason for going with the package deals. Convenience yes, with restrictions. Cost no way.
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Originally Posted by SeattleHTGuy View Post

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Originally Posted by ajhieb View Post

Ease of Use (specifically installation) has been brought up multiple times and you've dismissed it, not given in, so I'm calling bull**** on that.

The cost of time has been brought up multiple times and you've dismissed it because you consider it a hobby, so I'm calling bull**** on that one too.

And nobody here hates the HTPC solution. I have one and I'm quite happy with it. We are simply pointing out that it isn't the best solution in every case, which is a point that seems you are incapable of grasping. You seem to determined too look down your nose at everyone that doesn't have a HTPC solution at home.

Screw it. I'm tired of arguing. You're right everyone else is wrong. Everyone should go on eBay right now, and buy some extenders, and a cablecard tuner. Slap it all together (since everyone is evidently born with the innate ability to assemble and configure a WMC PC) and let the savings begin!

What time does it take to open a box, plug it into a cat 5 cable, go to WMC and punch in an 8 digit code? Do this 3 times and you have a 4 location DVR. Yes, you have to one time tell WMC where to put your shows and one time run thru the Ceton stuff but that's it. Claim whatever you want but this stuff is not that difficult.

You do not need to build a PC as well. Just buy one. I keep typing this, you keep ignoring. Used WMEs have gone up in value due to the Ceton phenomenon but perhaps the Echo comes down in price? Who knows. Used XBox's are going to be everywhere in two weeks and much cheaper. I think you might see $40 XBox's soon.

This is a hobby for me and I would not recommend a 10 zone distributed system for my parents but good lord you and Mariob keep hounding on cost and keep not getting the break even point. Leasing always, always, always costs more. If you are fine with that...... Good for you but as I keep typing math is math and your math blows. My total three service cable bill is $124. A similar cable distributed system would be three times or more that cost. Dish and Direct TV can't do it as far as I can tell or costs much more as well. I don't get all my content on one device with those other solutions. If you also think a wasted $1k per year over a lifetime is meaningless; it's not and that's why I can afford hobbies.

Bottom line. You won't find me on a Fios blog acting like An expert? I don't comment on Direct Tv or Dish either. You are on a WMC blog acting like a WMC expert. What's with that? As stated, haters hate. I also never said this solution was for everyone and all who do not go down my path are stupid. It's just that cost is not the reason for going with the package deals. Convenience yes, with restrictions. Cost no way.

Yeah, we call you gotta be right hater. Normally in non geeks vill they don't last long. Good luck with your setup. This isn't the WMC blog, it's the wat has Ceton delivered now blog. Duh.
post #7423 of 7721
Ahjieb really, depreciation? I expensed every penny of the hardware in the equipment and compared as a total lost/sunk cost. How does one depreciate something written off in its entirety upfront? Can i lose more than I spent? That is the only way your argument works. Good Lord, can you count? Your math is ridiculous. It's actually totally non-sensical. Once I have accounted for all the upfront expenditure and found my personal break-even point as compared to lease amount and time frame, I could place each piece in a landfill and be fine. Funny thing though, as mentioned my old WME's are actually worth a bit more now than when I bought them. I figure I would get three years use and turn a profit on my WME's. Good luck arguing that one.
post #7424 of 7721
Holy thread hijack, batman!!!! Could the 3 of you please take the cost analysis discussion elsewhere?
post #7425 of 7721
Seriously. At this point it's called "feeding the troll".
post #7426 of 7721
Edit: Point taken. I'm not arguing with this guy anymore.
post #7427 of 7721
Guys, find your way back to the topic before posting again.
post #7428 of 7721
Scooting back to topic:
Has anyone else notices that if fast forwarding, then hitting play, the Echo resumes play at a point that's about 30 seconds after the last scene shown in fast forward mode? This is a lot less convenient that the Scientific Atlanta DVR, which skipped BACKWARDS two seconds from the last scene shown in fast forward.

And I want to make it clear: I hated the SciAtl DVR, with its wonderous abilities to randomly lose access to the external hard drive, drop scheduled shows from its to-be-recorded queue, etc. But this one thing, the backwards skip of 2 seconds after hitting play, this one thing they got right.

So once again: it it just my system, or is this the way the current Echo software works. Oh, I'm on the Beta channel for firmware.
post #7429 of 7721
My Echo doesn't do that. Play after FFWD resumes exactly when you press the button except when in the fastest mode, where is resumes a couple of seconds ahead. I attribute that to my reflexes. But I'm on the stable firmware. I do agree a small skip back to compensate for reaction time would be a nice feature. My satellite DVRs had that feature as well.
post #7430 of 7721
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

I do agree a small skip back to compensate for reaction time would be a nice feature. My satellite DVRs had that feature as well.
It may be my imagination, but I believe my Echo does this (skip back slightly on resume). I do sometimes find myself hitting the back button (-7 seconds) once or twice if there is an issue...I really need to implement Comksip.
post #7431 of 7721
I happen to see the post below at the Green Button and thought I would pass it along. One can only hope it all works out.
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Motz - May 6, 2013

As I posted early in the thread (or a different one, can't remember now) we are pouring tons of work into Android on the Echo. Implementing & finalizing designs, features, upgrade procedures, apps, and a flurry of other things all take time to get done. Rest assured we are working as hard as we can and when we are at the "reveal" point there will be a constant stream of updates about everything we have been working on.
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Originally Posted by Haba View Post

I happen to see the post below at the Green Button and thought I would pass it along. One can only hope it all works out.

Hallelujah!! I have renewed faith in the world.
post #7433 of 7721
I am getting what sounds like audio distortion (clipping?) on both my Echos in completely different setups. One is connected to a Marantz receiver, PCM digital input, other is analog to 27" TV (stereo inbuilt speakers). Clipping only occurs during loud events (e.g. explosions). Is there an audio gain setting or similar in WMC that might be causing this? I thought it was my receiver/speakers a while ago, but now I have noticed the little TV is also having issues.

Is it even possible to get high level audio distortion with a PCM feed to the receiver unless the problem is in the amp/receiver itself? I.e. something in my HTPC setup changing the digital audio level? I'm not familiar with the logic layer of PCM audio transmission...
post #7434 of 7721
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Originally Posted by th3Pil0t View Post

I am getting what sounds like audio distortion (clipping?) on both my Echos in completely different setups. One is connected to a Marantz receiver, PCM digital input, other is analog to 27" TV (stereo inbuilt speakers). Clipping only occurs during loud events (e.g. explosions). Is there an audio gain setting or similar in WMC that might be causing this? I thought it was my receiver/speakers a while ago, but now I have noticed the little TV is also having issues.

Is it even possible to get high level audio distortion with a PCM feed to the receiver unless the problem is in the amp/receiver itself? I.e. something in my HTPC setup changing the digital audio level? I'm not familiar with the logic layer of PCM audio transmission...

This may be a receiver issue. I suppose it could be some type of bitstream error, but I'm not aware of any other reports. If you are using toslink out, try another cable. Also does this happen on PCM stereo content, or just AC3?
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Originally Posted by erickotz View Post

This may be a receiver issue. I suppose it could be some type of bitstream error, but I'm not aware of any other reports. If you are using toslink out, try another cable. Also does this happen on PCM stereo content, or just AC3?

I'm not using toslink. It's a HDMI link from the first Echo to the receiver (PCM). Also a HDMI link from the second Echo direct to the smaller TV (no PCM). I thought it might have been a receiver issue, but the fact I noticed it with stereo on the smaller TV as well, made me think twice...

I just did some testing and on the HTPC with stereo speakers attached, I am getting what sounds like the same issue. Now i'm completely confused. I thought my HTPC would be recording the digital bit stream from Comcast and the computer would faithfully play that through WMC?

Edit: Not sure about the PCM stereo content, currently I have only noticed it on HBOHD content that was Dolby 5.1.
post #7436 of 7721
So I had a wacky thing happen today. I had three echos going. The cable company did an emergency alert system test. The alert was just scrolling text on a black screen. It caused all three echos to lock up after the test. I just power cycled them and they came back. Just wondered if anyone else has ever noticed anything like that?
post #7437 of 7721
Has anyone found a way to make the volume control on the Echo function to actually control the volume sent through the HDMI connection to that individual TV? What am I missing.
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Originally Posted by lfox View Post

Has anyone found a way to make the volume control on the Echo function to actually control the volume sent through the HDMI connection to that individual TV? What am I missing.

HDMI-CEC..it's coming rolleyes.gif
post #7439 of 7721
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Originally Posted by lfox View Post

Has anyone found a way to make the volume control on the Echo function to actually control the volume sent through the HDMI connection to that individual TV? What am I missing.

If the remote is programmable, you need to program the volume buttons to control the AVR volume.
post #7440 of 7721
How about remote control oddities? I'm using the big white MC remotes (from MS), and I get frequent ”double presses” that I don't see on either xbox. For instance, typing in a channel number often results in one too many numbers, taking me to channel 999 in the guide. Just another thing that kills WAF for me.
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