JVC GY-HMQ10U (small 4K 60p camcorder) - Page 5

Congratulations! it's an amazing camera. I'm surprised the pro camera review sites aren't giving it a lot of attention, but I guess they are mainly interested in shallow depth of field cameras these days.

So far, I'm watching it on my 42" Panasonic Plasma TV at 1920x1080. Every now and then, I press the camera's digital zoom to get a one to one pixel display and imagine that I have an 84" TV with the outer part not visible. Sigh ... someday ...

We just missed each other, I was at the zoo the next day. I got some great 4K views around the zoo including the aviaries. I've used the FX1000's predecessor, the FX1 for many years. I loved that camera. It recorded great video.

That sounds interesting. There's a lot of views I'd love to record in LA.

Found this doing a little Googling, no pricing.

4K MONITOR, 4 DVI inputs

Interesting..

The 4K sets are starting to make their appearances.

It's interesting that they chose the 4 HDMI/DVI option like JVC did. I heard at SIGGRAPH last week that the HDMI engineers are working on a single 4K version (version 1.5). I didn't hear when it would be in consumer products. If the 4 HDMI ports approach catches on in the mean time then later there should be a market for affordable converter boxes.

I finally got a change to merge my night time Sea World recording. I used my Q10 to get wide screen shots of their shows. With a large TV, watching the video will be a lot like being there again ... and I didn't have to predict where the whales would pop up next during recording.

I didn't expect much during the night time Shamu show, but the Q10 surprised me. The playback looks very similar to what I saw despite it being so dark. There is some noise, but most of it goes away when watching in HD mode.


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Did anybody played GY-HMQ10U footage on the new MacBook Pro with the retina screen (2880 x 1800 pixels )?

Hello, I am new here.
I purchased my Q10 few month ago, it is a great camera!
Now I cannot go on vacation without it!

I am curious though, what file format do you output the video to?

Right now I output my videos to Quicktime format with Mpeg4 codec,
it seems this is one of few codecs that will let me output my video
at 4K res.

Thanks in advance.

Since I'll be limited to an HD display for a couple of years at least, I'm just saving the raw card data to data Bluray discs. I'm also working on temporary HD renderings. I've found that Power Director 10 not only supports reading the Apple ProRes 4K intermediate files, but renders HD better that Final Cut. It also can make 5.1 audio. I used a Zoom H2N surround audio recorder and am learning how to feed that audio into Power Director.

The MPEG folks are working on an upgrade to the H.264 compressor that will support 4K. H.265 will be twice as efficient and will allow for native 4K Blurays. Once those standards are complete, and the new authoring software is debugged, I'll go back and remaster my recordings.

In the mean time, I've had a large poster made of a frame from my Waikiki recording to remind me of what I have to look forward to.

By the way, welcome to the forum!

Thank you for the reply!

Right now I stitch the videos together in After Effects, then render those into uncompressed AVI format.
After that, I then convert the video in Premiere Pro for 2.5K version, and in Power director for Full HD version.
My pc monitor is capable of displaying 2560 x 1440. While it is not 4K , it is still much nicer than Full HD.

So far, the only 2 codecs that I found will let me render into files that is bigger than Full HD are uncompressed AVI and QuickTime.

The good news is there are already several 4K TVs from several major TV makers (Sony, Toshiba, Panasonic, Sharp and LG) said to be on sale at the end of this year or early 2013,
the challenge remains that if I will be able to hook my PC up to future TVs, and playback my own 4K videos on that.

All 4K TV prices are sky high right now, but I think they will be much more affordable by the end of 2013.

p.s. For anyone who is interested . Toshiba has a 4K TV called "REGZA 55xs5", for the price of about 500,000 yen, which is under 6500 Dollars.

http://kakaku.com/item/K0000373144/?lid=ksearch_kakakuitem_title

The only bad thing is, it is for sale only in Japan.
Edited by Xeon680 - 9/8/12 at 12:09pm

You could always have it imported and still come out way under the price of the larger 4K models. Food for thought.

Very nice suggestion!

I have found importer, however, the total price comes out around $8K USD, including tariff, process fee and shipping cost.

For that price, other choices are

1. Samsung /LG OLED TV (only 1080p but it seems it is a very nice TV)
2. JVC e-shift 4K projector
3.Other 4K TV to be released in USA , although I dont know any that is under $8K.

Hmm, choices, choices.
Guess wait until Xmas and see how things are for now is the best option.....

Well, this won't help, but I went to the Sony Store today in Culver City CA with the specific mission to see the glorious Sony 84" 4K set!!!!!

Talk about absolutely amazing image quality from any angle! Colors were brilliant, blacks were great and all the demo material was in 4K! They had some excellent colorful footage of what I think was Madrid, especially some of the colorful coastal housing..

I have to say I'm seriously smitten for 4K! I can imagine watching images recorded from the JVC on one of these babies ALL STINKING DAY!! LOL

To me, Sony priced themselves out of the flat panel arena, especially when you can the the equally as great LG model for probably 5-8K less than the Sony depending on retail pricing once it streets.

Man, envious of you guys filming in 4K, soon. :-\

@ David,

Sony Store
Fashion Valley
7007 Friars Road #731
San Diego, CA 92108
Phone. 619-220-7482

In case you wanted to get your eyes on one of those Sony 4K sets also. :-) I don't think they have a 4K connection option on those sets that's compatible with the JVC, you could try to take a thumb drive or portable HDD and see if they let you hook it up. Sony Store employees are usually pretty cool.

Let us know your observations if you do.

Thanks for the tip, Troy. I'll check out their display.

JVC's output is awkward and about to become obsolete since the new 4K HDMI spec is being finalized. It was all they could do at the time, though since the only 4K monitors then used 4 connectors. I suspect I'll have to wait for the new Bluray 4K spec and the new MPEG H.265 to be completed next year to get a 4K playback option. Even then, I'll probably have to wait another year or two for a consumer authoring program to be upgraded to Bluray 4K and made reliable. That's plenty of time for the 4K TV prices to come down.

In the mean time, I've written a program to merge the front and back audio files from my Zoom H2N into a 5.1 WAV file. Power Director 10 takes these audio files and 4K Quicktime Prores files and makes beautiful surround sound Full HD Blurays. I estimate I'm getting about 2/3rd's of the camera's full resolution this way. That's much sharper than my native HD recordings and will do until I can remaster it all in true 4K.

You may be in a good position by waiting to get your 4K camera, History may repeat it self. As you know, JVC was the first to market with a prosumer HD camcorder, but it had weak light sensitivity and only used one sensor which limited it a bit. Almost a year later Sony released their first, the three chip FX1 which was a much better camcorder.

Sony seems really interested in 4K so they must have a 4K prosumer camcorder in the works. It might be a three chip version of the HMQ10. On the other hand, I was unimpressed with Sony's 3D camcorder last year and bought the JVC model instead. Keep an eye out for Sony rumors before you decide to buy.

The GR-HD1, I bought that when it hit the market!! Still have it. :-) I've always been and early adopter, one of the reasons I wanted to get the Q10.

You always have the digital files that you can playback on any TV that has HDMI 1.4, all 3D sets do and the latest 4K sets also accept 4K input via the HDMI connections as well so there shouldn't be a problem with standalone playback. I'm hoping that they accept 4K content via USB also, that would make life so nice. You're already archiving the original files, so you could use either a PC solution or server to get the files to the TV. I was mentioning the Sony not being able to accept 4 4K HDMI for the sake of the here-and-now, meaning you wouldn't be able to just plug-n-play in the store.

Sony has a 4K projector that's been on the market for a few months now and when they send it to reviewers, they send along an HP server with 4K content for testing purposes, same as what they're doing for the demos in the stores.

Cheers.

I'm really glad JVC got the consumer HD camcorder market started. I had been waiting a long time to record in HD. Even though I didn't get the GR-HD1, I felt I owed them a camcorder purchase and was glad to get their 3D TD1 last year.

I got a chance to see the Sony 4K TV last weekend. It was very impressive. It was twice the size of my 42" TV and, even sitting quite close, still looked very sharp. I talked to one of the Sony folks and he mentioned a dedicated server feeding it 4K samples.

I just read that Power Director 11 is out and has native support for rendering 4K video. Of course, its file mode only for now, but that does give me a good rendering option. I'm still amazed that Power Director 10 can render HD from 4K files without any problem. As a programmer, I know it's just a matter of reading the video file header and allocating the memory as needed, but so many companies these days like to limit their products that PD10's 4K input compatibility was a pleasant surprise.

I got a chance to see Sony 4K TV few days ago, it was really amazing! I wonder what did they use to make the demo video though...maybe Sony F65?
The whole time while I was watching the demo, one thing keeps show up in my mind is "I wonder what my Q10 video will look like on that thing".
Although the TV itself was amazing, the price tag certainly is nowhere near affordable...it costs more than my car!
Hopefully it can become more affordable in 3 years time...

I bought PowerDirector 11 ultra to stich my Q10 files together. Can anybody tell me how to do it? Thanks

Not really sure how to do it in Power director 11 Ultra since it is new software with new feature.
Perhaps you can try it with AE or PR? it is really simple with those 2.

Does anyone know where I can find software that will stitch together the four quadrants from the HMQ10U on Windows 7? Thank you!

After Effects, Premiere Pro or Power Director 11 Ultra, all runs on Windows 7 and all of them can stitch videos.

Double post by accident--please delete.

55" 4K set from Sony for only $5,000!

It has begun!!

What are you going to watch on this? Your own 4K videos? Or Netflix's 5 Mbit/s "high definition" movies?

I am sure it will sell great when it drops to $797.99 like the Samsung UN55EH6000 55" LED HDTV in a few years but you really need a much larger screen to see the difference at normal viewing distance since a 60" 1080p HDTV looks like a Retina display when viewed from 7.8 feet or more .
http://www.displaymate.com/news.html#7
Edited by jogiba - 3/25/13 at 2:11pm

It looks like Apple will have a 4K UHDTV in 2014.




http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20130326PD218.html