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post #151 of 158
Originally Posted by Paulo Teixeira View Post

That wouldn't be surprising at all since the resolution on their MacBook Pro is 2880x1800. Perhaps they'll have a 32" iTV model. With Sony willing to sell a 55" 4K TV for $5,000 and most likely lower for the CES 2014 sets, I hope this Apple wont be more than $3.000.

JVC did show off a big chip version of the HMQ10U a while back. I'm sure they'll be showing it off again at NAB. Hopefully it wont be any more than $10,000 and if they can make it 10 bit from start to finish, that would be a nice bonus. On EOSHD, theirs a rumor that Panasonic could be releasing a 4K version of the GH camera. I do remember a patent long ago that shows something the shape of a camcorder (Sort of like the Sony VG30). A 4K version of my GH2 having a shape of a camcorder would be nice especially if it has built in ND filters and priced well. That kind of camera with 4K does seam a bit unlikely for this year though. A Sony version version would be nice as well. I probably wouldn't be getting a new camera anytime soon anyway unless I get extremely busy with paid video gigs. For sure it would be nice to have extra cool angles in music videos.

There's nothing I'd like more than a camera with a micro 43rds mount that can shoot 4k at 24p/30p/60p without significant aliasing!
post #152 of 158
Originally Posted by hatchback View Post

There's nothing I'd like more than a camera with a micro 43rds mount that can shoot 4k at 24p/30p/60p without significant aliasing!
I think if the GH4 comes out at Photokina 2014 it should have 4K-24p at least with 4K-60p a possibility and by then Sony should have a 4K version of the full frame NEX-VG900.
Edited by jogiba - 3/28/13 at 5:15am
post #153 of 158
Originally Posted by jogiba View Post

I think if the GH4 comes out at Photokina 2014 it should have 4K-24p at least with 4K-60 a possibility.

It will be a "GH5". Notice how Panasonic went from a G3 to a G5 and GF3 to a GF5?

GH1 2009/GH2 2011/GH3 2013...
Edited by xfws - 3/28/13 at 5:36am
post #154 of 158
What are you going to watch on this? Your own 4K videos? Or Netflix's 5 Mbit/s "high definition" movies?

Whatever you want!

I bought my first HDTV in 1999, there were only about 2-3 channels that offered random HD programs and only at odd hours. The average choice was watching a fireworks display or watching a program about bats that lived under a bridge somewhere in Texas (I watched them both). Great options!

I never stopped to asked "WHAT AM I GOING TO WATCH ON THIS?", why? Because I knew that the programming will eventually come and for the other material I watched, that TV enhanced the experience that much more: DVDs, Xbox, PC and even standard definition programming.

It took quite a while for HD to finally become the mainstay, just as it will with 4K. I've always been on the edge of technology and I embrace the change, the higher quality and resolution that each new generation brings.

So with 4K sets, on the average, most material will look that much better. If you doubt it, look in the projector forums and see the conversations about the Sony 4K projector. They've been producing 4k or better movies for at least the past 7-8 years, so I'm sure something will come out of it as long as everyone agrees on a standard and gets their fair cut. The content will come, whether it's a hit or miss we'll have to see, even it's a niche product like D-Theater (which I bought into), I'm sure there will be people who enjoy it, like myself.

Are you the same type of person who asks "where are you going to drive that new LaFerrari at?" I'm sure you are. rolleyes.gif Obviously you're not the person embracing the 4K revolution, I'm not sure why you even bother to post, but to each his own.

post #155 of 158
I was holding off on buying a new TV set since 1987 when I found out about new and exciting plasma display technology. Then in 1989 I found out about HDTV initiatives, proposed standards and even some pilot projects. I've read about analog HDTV that the Japanese rolled out, as well as about European satellite digital format. All of these were exciting news, but the technology did not converge yet into a usable form, and there was no programming. So I waited.

Then in the late 1990-ies HDTV started to roll out in the U.S. The first TV sets did use plasma technology I had read 10 years earlier, but most TVs were EDTVs. They did cost arm and leg. And there was little programming. I waited more.

Then finally the TVs got cheaper, bigger, with deeper blacks, with better deinterlacing, with proper 1080p60 support. So I set myself a price limit and TV size: 50-inch TV for $2,000 or less. And I bought myself one.

I could use my TV right away with HD content available OTA or over cable. It was not a lot of HD content these days, but there was some, and it was there. I could use its 24p inverse telecine processing to watch DVD movies the way they are shown in movie theaters - full frame, widescreen, significantly improved over CRT experience. I could watch BD titles on a quite expensive BD player. I could watch my home movies. Only now the latest camcorders finally are able to deliver image quality that I can appreciate on my TV.

4K? There are no immediate plans for 4K broadcast, there are some tests with H.265. No plans for 4K satellite or cable TV. 4K Ghostbusters movie that everyone is talking about is only mastered in 4K, but distributed as 1080p BD. 4K BD players are at least one year away if they will ever materialize. I am afraid that with proliferation of streaming video the 4K physical format will cost way too much catering only to home cinema buffs. Netflix and Hulu are barely 720p quality (I am talking not frame size, but overall quality.) So the question what to watch is a real one. Sure, you can shoot your own movies with a 4K camcorder, which is a valid use case, but not for me.

If and when content becomes available I will consider buying a 4K TV. At that time these TVs will be much cheaper than today. On another hand, I am tired from upgrading from VHS to DVD to BD. Also, my HDTV set gave me much bigger bump in quality and features (progressive scan, widescreen, less flicker, ability to function as decent computer monitor) than 4K offers over HD. To better position 4K it should have 'scope aspect ratio, and some TVs do, but the format itself is still 16:9.

For a 50-inch TV watched from reasonable distance it does not matter whether it is 720p, 1080p or 4K - you cannot see the pixels. So you need to go bigger. Sony's 84-inch TV is $25K, I don't like watching TV that much. I actually watch TV less than half an hour a day, I watch videos on my tablet and phone more often. I don't need 4K for YouTube videos watched on mobile device.

It is very unlikely I will continue buying physical media, especially with the same movies I already have, even if they are in 4K. I don't like Ghostbusters that much. So... until streaming catches up to 4K... Or should I say until the pigs fly.

Indeed, I don't know why I bothered to reply, but here it is, I have typed it already, let it be.
post #156 of 158
post #157 of 158
For cheaper 4K display (compare to SONY 84 inch),

Sony 55 inch / 65 inch 4K TV, priced at $4998 and $6998 on amazon right now. Rumor has it that Sony will cut $1000 off both models soon.


and the Seiki 4K 39 inch TV, priced at $699!! I think this will be the cheapest 4K display for a VERY long time

post #158 of 158
Amazon has the 50" 4K for $965.99 with free shipping every few weeks.

Edited by jogiba - 8/22/13 at 4:57am
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