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post #1 of 1215
1/11/12 at 6:53am
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This new player just announced at 2012 CES looks really nice. I have a Bryston SP1.7 pre-pro which does not have HDMI & of course does not decode the latest
surround formats. Rather than turf a really good quality pre pro I can go through the BDT500 7.1 analog inputs. There are other players out there that do similar but they can get pricey. Curious to see what this retails for.
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post #2 of 1215
1/11/12 at 8:01am
I wonder if the BDT500 uses the new UniPhier with ARM Cortex A9 Dualcore CPU.
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post #3 of 1215
1/12/12 at 7:29am
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Originally Posted by Rathbone View Post

I wonder if the BDT500 uses the new UniPhier with ARM Cortex A9 Dualcore CPU.

It uses UniPhier technology, not sure which chip, or if there is more than one. Here is a link about the new Panny BD lineup for 2012:

http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/t...ic-32bit-3d-bd

Check out the new remote, which appears to have a LCD display.
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post #4 of 1215
1/12/12 at 8:18am
it says touchpad remote control in the text. This and the multiple user accounts would indicate a ARM A9 based Linux player.

The new UniPhier unveiled in summer is said to be an ARM Cortex A9 Dual Core CPU where the Uniphier technology is incorporated.

http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/N...er-MN2WS0220-/
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post #5 of 1215
1/14/12 at 7:34am
Ill be picking one up, hopefully see them early March.
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post #6 of 1215
1/14/12 at 12:22pm
Is that the BDT500 remote?

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post #7 of 1215
1/14/12 at 12:22pm
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I'm fairly ignorant to all of these spec's. "Uniphier etc" Does it look good so far?
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post #8 of 1215
1/16/12 at 9:35am
Looks like every other year. The Uniphier is their proprietary chip, like some use a Marvell or Mediatek. It's been a really good performer, and they make incremental advances every year. I know the Uniphier upgrades announced this summer were interesting, so hopefully they continue to advance it. I really like the look of the 500.
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post #9 of 1215
1/16/12 at 1:29pm
It sounds to me that the improvements in this model over last year's BDT310 are mostly audio processing related. That and the new remote, of course. If the player isn't doing the audio decoding, then it doesn't sound like much else was added. Anyone else thinking the same thing?
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post #10 of 1215
1/16/12 at 11:40pm
Per several video/audio sites and Panasonic there is an increase in video processing since the new 2012 Panasonic blu ray players will employ a newly designed Uniphier processor that increases video quality 50% over the current models. Of course the new models will have 192kHz/32bit Audio DACs. These improvements surpass the current 2011 models, Im buying the new 2012 model for sure!
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post #11 of 1215
1/17/12 at 2:27am
I'm mostly curious about if they have made the files support wider.
For example the 2011 players can't play MP4/M4V etc.
They can't even play some mkv files.
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post #12 of 1215
1/17/12 at 2:45am
I wonder what their DACs really are. PCM1795?
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post #13 of 1215
1/17/12 at 3:14am
looks like a very interesting player, as I need high quality analog audio (stereo only in my case). Now if only they fixed the bug that analog audio is shut off when setting the player to 24p like with the current x10 series...
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post #14 of 1215
1/17/12 at 12:49pm
Will this player offer 3D Checkerboard output as an option for those of us that have 3D capable DLP displays? The 2010 and 2011 models offered this option.
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post #15 of 1215
1/17/12 at 1:24pm
It should as Panasonic is the only player that does offer it as far as I know. Nice little corner on the market there.

S~
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post #16 of 1215
1/18/12 at 5:03pm
Re: checkerboard 3D format, hopefully these new players do still support it. It would be nice if they also now supported it for use with the 2D to 3D conversion feature as well as with VIERA feature such as Netflix
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post #17 of 1215
1/18/12 at 6:51pm
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Originally Posted by fwgougeon View Post

Re: checkerboard 3D format, hopefully these new players do still support it. It would be nice if they also now supported it for use with the 2D to 3D conversion feature as well as with VIERA feature such as Netflix

I concur.
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post #18 of 1215
1/18/12 at 8:31pm
3D conversion is supposed to work with apps.

S~
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post #19 of 1215
1/18/12 at 8:55pm
I wonder if it will support vudu 3d. The current panasonics do not.
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post #20 of 1215
1/24/12 at 2:20pm
Agreed. I own (and am 100% happy with) an Arcam AVR300 and I have no intention of spending money on replacing it any time soon.

The BDT500 looks like the perfect solution for me. That + some 5.1 Blue Jeans RCA patch cables brings me right up to speed with the new hi-def audio formats.

This is on my must-buy list this year.

This will also allow me to retire my never-did-work-as-advertised LG BD590. But that's already been hashed-out here on the owner's thread.
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post #21 of 1215
1/31/12 at 9:50am
Does anyone know when the DMP BDT500 will be released?
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post #22 of 1215
2/2/12 at 2:18am
Of all the sites I searched only one mentioned a date: april. I've asked Panasonic over here but haven't gotten a reply.
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post #23 of 1215
2/3/12 at 4:25pm
These players unfortunately will have Cinavia builtin correct? Thankfully only primarily Sony is polluting their soundtracks with it, though I fear other studios may join in when it becomes more widespread in standalones....
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post #24 of 1215
2/4/12 at 8:46pm
Has anyone heard what the MSRP for this player would be. I have a Sony S5000ES and love it. Not really looking to upgrade but still wondering. The build quality of my sony is phenomenal (weighs 23 lbs). The 310 is a feather weight by comparison.
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post #25 of 1215
2/9/12 at 6:06pm
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Originally Posted by Genelec Man View Post

This new player just announced at 2012 CES looks really nice. I have a Bryston SP1.7 pre-pro which does not have HDMI & of course does not decode the latest
surround formats. Rather than turf a really good quality pre pro I can go through the BDT500 7.1 analog inputs. There are other players out there that do similar but they can get pricey. Curious to see what this retails for.

I just read the press release and it doesn't state anything about the player supporting 7.1 analog. It only states the BDT500 provides for 7.1 channel output, which means the player can decode 7.1, which is my understanding.

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Originally Posted by smartwater View Post

Per several video/audio sites and Panasonic there is an increase in video processing since the new 2012 Panasonic blu ray players will employ a newly designed Uniphier processor that increases video quality 50% over the current models. Of course the new models will have 192kHz/32bit Audio DACs. These improvements surpass the current 2011 models, Im buying the new 2012 model for sure!

There is a "50% increase in vertical color data processing" not a 50% increase in video quality.
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post #26 of 1215
2/9/12 at 10:20pm
Those look a LOT like analog pre-outs on the right side of the panel to me.

http://twitter.com/#!/audioholicstor...16292359766016

I blew the pic up in an outside editor and the words 'analog out' seem to be above the RCA connectors.

Also, I see no reason for Panasonic to spend ANY money on high grade DAC's if they are not providing multi-channel pre-outs. I will be surprised to see if the '500 omits this feature.
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post #27 of 1215
2/10/12 at 2:41am
Any info on this player having Source Direct?

Jason
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post #28 of 1215
2/10/12 at 4:36am
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Originally Posted by BufordTJustice View Post

Those look a LOT like analog pre-outs on the right side of the panel to me.

http://twitter.com/#!/audioholicstor...16292359766016

I blew the pic up in an outside editor and the words 'analog out' seem to be above the RCA connectors.

Also, I see no reason for Panasonic to spend ANY money on high grade DAC's if they are not providing multi-channel pre-outs. I will be surprised to see if the '500 omits this feature.

I can't open that link, but the Pioneer Elite BDP-53 has 32 Bit DACs, but no 7.1 analog pre-outs, only 2 channel. 32 bit DACs is not a prerequisite for 7.1 analog pre-outs. Also, I don't think Panasonic spent any significant amount on DACs. As an example Burr Brown PCM1795 32 bit DACs are only $7.05 each depending on quantity.
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post #29 of 1215
2/10/12 at 9:53am
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I can't open that link, but the Pioneer Elite BDP-53 has 32 Bit DACs, but no 7.1 analog pre-outs, only 2 channel. 32 bit DACs is not a prerequisite for 7.1 analog pre-outs. Also, I don't think Panasonic spent any significant amount on DACs. As an example Burr Brown PCM1795 32 bit DACs are only $7.05 each depending on quantity.

Direct image link:
http://distilleryimage4.s3.amazonaws...3813ffc0_7.jpg

If Panasonic failed to include 7.1 analog pre-outs, their press release is an abject failure. The PR and the audioholics article both lead one to believe that they have included 7.1 analog pre-outs. If it doesn't, I just won't buy one.

The Pio Elite is geared much more toward 2-channel listeners, and even considering that, their failure to include a full pre-out compliment has hurt their sales.

I already know that the chips used in our players are vastly cheaper than the players themselves. That's not news. Further, Panasonic's current marketing materials have obviously lead most posters in this thread to believe that the BDT 500 has 7.1 analog pre-outs. If it does not have this feature, their marketing has failed.
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post #30 of 1215
2/10/12 at 3:31pm
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Originally Posted by BufordTJustice View Post

Direct image link:
http://distilleryimage4.s3.amazonaws...3813ffc0_7.jpg

If Panasonic failed to include 7.1 analog pre-outs, their press release is an abject failure. The PR and the audioholics article both lead one to believe that they have included 7.1 analog pre-outs. If it doesn't, I just won't buy one.

The Pio Elite is geared much more toward 2-channel listeners, and even considering that, their failure to include a full pre-out compliment has hurt their sales.

I already know that the chips used in our players are vastly cheaper than the players themselves. That's not news. Further, Panasonic's current marketing materials have obviously lead most posters in this thread to believe that the BDT 500 has 7.1 analog pre-outs. If it does not have this feature, their marketing has failed.

BufordT,

I agree with you 100% about potentially not having 7.1 pre-outs is failure and Pioneer has already dropped the ball on this. Pioneer further shot themselves in the foot by limiting their 2nd HDMI out to audio only. Normally manufacturers only taught their DACs if they offer both 2 channel and 7.1 analog connectivity and the press releases normally state as much. I will stay tuned for further developments. Thanks for the link.
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