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post #121 of 1791
Oppo 95 is $999 US. I can buy it for $999 CAN.
post #122 of 1791
We're not talking about the $500 range anymore, are we? The 93 is $600 in Canada and $500 in US. The margin on the 95 is much higher than the 93 so they have more room to play.
post #123 of 1791
Only best rated
OPPO BDP-93 Blu-ray Disc Player

Regular Price: CA$520.00
SPECIAL PRICE: CA$499.00
post #124 of 1791
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Originally Posted by mandarax View Post

I know eh. We gotta pay for that french box, and those french instructions arent cheap especially cuz no male will read them. Then someone has to repackage it and make up a smaller quantity run of the boxes. EH ..

Then when we use the wifi we pay 5 times more for the bandwidth.. OHHH CANNAA DAHH!! Well think of the good things .. The USA is taking Celine Dion off our hands.

I threatened to do so for political reasons back in 2003, but this is just too much. That is it, I'm moving to Canada!
post #125 of 1791
I find the oppo too loud. The last one I had anyway. I find the actual drive to be cheap especially for a 1000.

I will bark and moan about the price and tbey usually throw me a biscuit. My oppo didn't also play as nice with other gear as the panny did.

I would still take the panny over the 93. I wouldn't pay double for the 95.
post #126 of 1791
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Originally Posted by mandarax View Post

I find the oppo too loud. The last one I had anyway. I find the actual drive to be cheap especially for a 1000.

I will bark and moan about the price and tbey usually throw me a biscuit. My oppo didn't also play as nice with other gear as the panny did.

I would still take the panny over the 93. I wouldn't pay double for the 95.

Anyone expecting this Panasonic to be quieter than the BDP210/220?
post #127 of 1791
I don't know whether the 500 will be quieter but I can only assume so just due to its thicker and larger chassis.

As far as Oppo? They were good value during the 83 time. Times have changed, however. If they're not selling the 95 at the price of 93, with drive mechanism at least as reliable as an $80 Toshiba BD player, it's not worth buying.

Heck, a month ago one of my client bought a 95 and had it exchanged three times within a week because the drive died on him. What a PITA for a $1000 product!
post #128 of 1791
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Originally Posted by Tank_PD View Post

Anyone expecting this Panasonic to be quieter than the BDP210/220?

No one knows coz the 500 isn't out yet.

But there are occasional posts to that effect on the 220 and 320 in the longer recent "Panasonic DMP-BDT 220/320/500" thread.

Given that the 500 is the flagship model, Panasonic will get crucified if the 500 is noisier than the other new 2012 models.

Does anyone have a PDF of the 500 user manual? Or has anyone seen an online review of the 500? Please post a link.
post #129 of 1791
Panasonic has not provided the user manuals online yet. Only thing I've found is the spec sheet:

http://content.meridinet.com/pub/Pan...-BDT500_HR.pdf

S~
post #130 of 1791
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Originally Posted by teachsac View Post

Panasonic has not provided the user manuals online yet. Only thing I've found is the spec sheet:

http://content.meridinet.com/pub/Pan...-BDT500_HR.pdf

Thanks for the link.

The info in it is somewhat useful, but doesn't actually answer my main question.

Which is when I download lossless 24/96 .flac 5.1 audio files from 2L at http://www.2l.no/ (there's a pull down menu in the upper right corner, left click on "Test Bench HD audio files")

... can I copy these large audio only files (lossless 24/96 .flac 5.1) from my PC to an external USB HDD, and then plug that external HDD into the 500's front USB connector and have the top notch 5.1 sound available (unaltered) on the rear panel 5.1 RCA outs?
post #131 of 1791
Don't know why it wouldn't. DAC is 192kHz/24 bit.

S~
post #132 of 1791
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Originally Posted by teachsac View Post

Don't know why it wouldn't. DAC is 192kHz/24 bit.

S~

What I've learned is to not generalize like your above sentence.

Which is why I provided that ref to free samples of lossless 5.1 24/96 .flac files from 2L.

There frequently are many loopholes in a spec sheet, and that long list of notes at the end of the 2 page writeup makes me wonder. Namely if when I actually buy the 500 unit for myself and then put one of those lossless 5.1 24/96 .flac files on a USB device (either memory stick or external HDD), will it actually play intact?

BTW, the DAC in the 500 is spec'ed at 192kHz/32 bit.
post #133 of 1791
The player will sample flac files at up to 192/24.

S~
post #134 of 1791
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Originally Posted by Tank_PD View Post

Anyone expecting this Panasonic to be quieter than the BDP210/220?

me fingers are crossed..
post #135 of 1791
So April Fools day passed and i STILL DONT HAVE IT.

YIPES.
post #136 of 1791
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Originally Posted by mandarax View Post

So April Fools day passed and i STILL DONT HAVE IT.

YIPES.

I hope the May release data is accurate then. Are there any pictures of the back panel of this player? I haven't been able to find any.
post #137 of 1791
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Originally Posted by Tank_PD View Post

I hope the May release data is accurate then. Are there any pictures of the back panel of this player? I haven't been able to find any.

No direct picture of the rear panel, but what's showed up earlier in this thread are http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...&postcount=102 and http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...&postcount=129
post #138 of 1791
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Originally Posted by Tank_PD View Post

I hope the May release data is accurate then. Are there any pictures of the back panel of this player? I haven't been able to find any.

From my post on pg 1:

http://distilleryimage4.s3.amazonaws...3813ffc0_7.jpg

It's the only one I've been able to find so far.

EDIT: it originated from this twitter post.
http://twitter.com/#!/audioholicstor...16292359766016
post #139 of 1791
In looking at the above photo (actually a zoomed-in view of the previous references), I see this (left to right):

1 USB connector (camera comm. only, according to PDF spec sheet)
1 ethernet
2 HDMI
1 optical audio (TOSLINK)
4 RCA connectors [1 coax audio, 3 coax video]
a Java logo
6 RCA analog connectors [audio]
xxx-xxT500 [I wouldn't know it was DMP-BD unless you told me, but T500 is clear]
various logos
A/C power cord

I'm guessing at the 4 coax's in the middle; hence the square brackets. But the lower left one (red) is in the same outline "box" as the optical TOSLINK connector, so I presume that's the other audio output.


Scott

PS according to references on the spec sheet, there is another USB connector somewhere on the front for general use. The one on the back is only for camera communications.
post #140 of 1791
you are correct, Sir!



post #141 of 1791
Here are some links on the Panasonic web pages:

http://shop.panasonic.com/pna-global...mp%20bdt%20500
http://shop.panasonic.com/shop/model/DMP-BDT500
http://content.meridinet.com/pub/Pan...-BDT500_HR.pdf

and a nice comparison table on Amazon for the 220/320/500 (scroll down about half way)

http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-DMP-...4429008&sr=8-1


The Panasonic page says the 500 is shipping in May-June and it appears that their web page may be accepting pre-orders. The suggested retail price shown is $349.99.


Scott
post #142 of 1791
Does anyone know if the remote on the BDT500 has an eject button and a dedicated subtitle button? I know with the older DMP310 model, you had to take extra steps to turn the subtitles OFF or ON using the remote. Also, is Gracenote available with this player?
post #143 of 1791
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Originally Posted by 645824 View Post

The Panasonic page says the 500 is shipping in May-June and it appears that their web page may be accepting pre-orders ...

Timewise I'm not sure what to expect.

Given what happened with the 2012 220/230 models, I'm hoping for late April or May at the latest.
post #144 of 1791
Danny Phillips, of TrustedReviews, has a review of the 500 here:

http://www.trustedreviews.com/panaso...-Player_review

He shows close-ups of the back panel connections. The review also indicates that the camera communication port is for Skype. The 500 has quad Burr-Brown 192kHz DACs for the 7.1 audio output. He shows some screenshots in the review, and comments on the remote (seems better than the 320's remote) since it has buttons and a touch pad.

Nice review!

Scott

PS the May-June shipping time frame that I quoted is from the Panasonic shop (second link of post #141). But I'm with you, I hope that they move that up sooner.
post #145 of 1791
I am glad the remote for the 500 has buttons and the touchpad. I have the 320 and HATE the remote, it is a royal pain.
post #146 of 1791
Hi
I feel Panasonic products are only fair. Customer service is terrible, if you have a problem. By the time you get a human voice,you can have lunch. Take my advice by an Oppo Blu ray player. They have the best DACs in the industry. There customer service will go out of there way to assist you. I'm going to purchase the Oppo BDP93. You can use the HDMI inputs and still receive outstanding sound for music. The video quality from this player is unbelievable.
post #147 of 1791
DACS are irrelevant if you are using HDMI. The digital to analog conversion would be done in the receiver.

The 500 is using quad Burr/Brown 192Khz/32 Bit Dacs for analog. From the review posted above:

Quote:


Great pictures then, but it’s with sound that the DMP-BDT500 really excels. Music on CD sounds wonderfully smooth, open and engaging with twinkling high frequencies and pleasing bass weight.

Complex, fast-paced beats are snappy and forceful, while vocals soar and brass solos are easy on the ear. Network streamed music sounds great too, particularly FLAC files, but even lower bit-rate MP3s benefit from the DMP-BDT500’s high-quality circuitry. As we’ve found on previous Panasonic decks the Digital Tube Sound modes lend an pleasing layer of richness and punch. This extra sonic prowess is worth the added premium if you’re rocking a high-end system that can really make the most of it.

As for PQ. I see no difference between the Oppos and Panasonics for Blu-ray, and for DVD scaling, I don't see anything that would make it worth it. Pretty identical. All in all, if it wan't for file support over DLNA, SACD, and DVD-A, I would not have gotten the Oppo (or I would have returned it).

S~
post #148 of 1791
What's the price point on this player, or did I miss it somewhere in the thread?
post #149 of 1791
Msrp $349

s~
post #150 of 1791
Thanks!
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