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post #751 of 1215
7/23/12 at 6:51am
Audyssey equalizes/makes more accurate/compensates for problems in the sound produced by your speakers and your room. It equalizes each speaker individually. It doesn't care if you're playing two-channel music or multi-channel movies. I don't have a manual readily available, so I can't confirm if that receiver's Stereo mode disables Audyssey.
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post #752 of 1215
7/23/12 at 11:53am
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Audyssey equalizes/makes more accurate/compensates for problems in the sound produced by your speakers and your room. It equalizes each speaker individually. It doesn't care if you're playing two-channel music or multi-channel movies. I don't have a manual readily available, so I can't confirm if that receiver's Stereo mode disables Audyssey.

If you're using the main feature of this Panasonic DMP BDT500 player, i.e. it's rear RCA analog outs for sound, then for Audyssey to work (with either MC speaker setup, or even only stereo speakers) the AVR would have to re-digitize the input analog sound, which is generally considered to be a bad thing to do.

The whole Audyssey thing has been debated endlessly on AVS.

Why not post a link to a useful AVS thread?

And quit talking about it in this blu-ray player thread. Thanks.
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post #753 of 1215
7/23/12 at 5:13pm
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So I filled out the form and typed up a couple of paragraphs summarizing the problem and the issues.
I'll let folks know what I hear back from Panasonic.

I heard back from Panasonic support about the time-out issue. They thanked me for my suggestion and would pass it along to the development team. They also mentioned that the present time-out is 30 minutes.

To me it seems much shorter (get up, go to the kitchen, get a snack, come back, and its timed-out). But I haven't actually timed it (perhaps I take too long in the kitchen?!?). So I probably should time it before getting too worked-up.

Scott
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post #754 of 1215
7/23/12 at 5:44pm
Just got off the horn with Panny CS. My '500 with the aforementioned Netflix issues is going back. The CS rep was cool and knowledgeable and had no issue issuing a call tag for a free replacement.
He stated that there was an issue with the WiFi controller chipset for my '500. However, I have been seeing similar issues from other members as well........
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post #755 of 1215
7/24/12 at 3:30pm
So could you use the 7.1 outputs on the DMP BDT500 hooked straight to powered speakers, without using any receiver at all ?
Just wondering if I was to get the DMP BDT500, if It would be possible to cheap-out on the speakers, just until I can get a good receiver and set of speakers ?
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post #756 of 1215
7/24/12 at 4:04pm
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So could you use the 7.1 outputs on the DMP BDT500 hooked straight to powered speakers, without using any receiver at all ?
Just wondering if I was to get the DMP BDT500, if It would be possible to cheap-out on the speakers, just until I can get a good receiver and set of speakers ?
You would need a 7.1 channel pre-amp, pre-pro, or receiver with 8 analog outputs to drive 7 powered speakers including your subwoofer. That would allow you to control the volume level of all the channels simultaneously. Without that, what you propose is useless. If you are a DIYer, you could easily build a passive 7.1 channel volume control box if you can find a 8-gang volume control or attenuator like this one. However it need not be audiophlie grade like that one. Good luck!
Edited by Star Hawk - 7/24/12 at 4:10pm
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post #757 of 1215
7/24/12 at 7:34pm
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So could you use the 7.1 outputs on the DMP BDT500 hooked straight to powered speakers, without using any receiver at all ?
Just wondering if I was to get the DMP BDT500, if It would be possible to cheap-out on the speakers, just until I can get a good receiver and set of speakers ?

In my system, there is no receiver.

I have powered speakers (JBL LSR4328) and they do have volume control (via a wireless remote control). In my case, I use the digital inputs (to avoid cabling problems and hum) but they just as easily work with their analog inputs. Simpler and less expensive powered speakers would also work. The LSR's are absolutely great BTW and I've been exceedingly happy with them!

Search on Sweetwater for "active monitors"; prices appear to start around $80 each. Just make sure that whichever powered speakers you buy have a coordinated volume control so that one remote controls them all. In the LSR4238's case, there is an interconnect cable which allows all of the speakers to talk to each other and the remote adjusts all of the volumes simultaneously. I'll assume that other manufacturers' units work similarly.


Scott

PS I mix the analogs from the 500 with my HDTV tuner's 5.1 analog outputs (Y-cables), then run that through A/D converters for the long cable run through the attic over to the 4328's (using their digital inputs). The 4328's are on the other side of the living room by my Stewart motorized screen. But as I said before, you can do the same thing using the 4328's analog inputs.
Edited by 645824 - 7/24/12 at 7:47pm
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post #758 of 1215
7/24/12 at 8:04pm
As a really really cheapo example, would these work for 5.1 without use of a receiver ?
http://www.amazon.com/Multimedia-Powered-Theater-Surround-Speaker/dp/B003ZPQ9LQ/ref=pd_sim_sbs_e_18
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post #759 of 1215
7/25/12 at 11:14am
My BDT500 has died.

It can boot to the menu screen but has a flashing green screen when trying to load discs or Viera Connect.

Got a case # from Panasonic and shipping it to McAllen for repair/replacement.

Manufactured April 2012, worked fine for 2 months until it died.
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post #760 of 1215
7/25/12 at 12:16pm
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Will do after I let the 500 burn in a bit. When I got home today I had a nice present waiting on the porch. A pic for those who are into this type of thing. Thankfully, I'm not!
Pardon the crooked pic as well as the hanging wires. I had to open a couple of wire bundles to install it.







I only had a 1 hour to try it out so far. The PQ is outstanding but I'm surprised how good it sounds. With all the sound processing turned off, there's a nice warmth to music CD's. It's very similar to the 210, if anyone is familiar with that model.


A couple of quick notes. The remote for the 210 does work, just match the command codes as usual. I remember there was a question whether the old remotes work with the 2012 models. The menu is usable when the disc is playing- a la Oppo. I didn't try it on everything but it's an improvement over the 210. The touchpad is easy after 30 seconds or so if you're used to devices that use finger motions. It's still a gimmick, however. The Panny app for the iPad/iPhone is still better.



One really annoying thing. You can not connect to the internet it there is an FW upgrade available. You *must* DL the upgrade or you will not get content. You can't ignore a FW upgrade at all. Some more Panny quirkiness.

Hi ti-triodes,

I am looking for a transport to do pretty much everything. I have space/budget restrictions and also want something with Hulu Plus, Netflix & Amazon On-Demand. I noticed you have an Oppo 95 as well and I was surprised you said the 500 sounds quite good. As a transport only(using digital coax or toslink) for Red Book CDs how does this sound in relation to the Oppo? I have a Sony BDP-570 currently which is a two year old BR player and for music CDs sounds absolutely awful. I also have the very first blu-ray player that would bitstream DTS-HD (A Samsung, but don't remember model #) and it sounded sigificantly better than the sony, so I know there is sound quality differences between transports. I also have an old California Audio Labs CD player (using coax to processor as well) from 1999 and the difference between this and the Samsung was slightly noticeable, but not drastic like the sony and the samsung. I would of been able to live with the Samsung as an all arounder for blu-rays and CDs but since it has no streaming I am opting for something newer. I am hoping the new Panny will get me close to my old Samsung. The Oppo 93 would be my first choice(since it uses the same transport as the 95 with a lower quality DAC section), but it does not have Amazon or Hulu Plus. Any help you can offer would be much appreciated especially since you have some hours on it now. I know I can buy it and demo it for myself, but I feel a little bad about buying and returning the player if it has no chance to meet my expectations. Cheers!
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post #761 of 1215
7/26/12 at 6:35am
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Hi ti-triodes,
I am looking for a transport to do pretty much everything. I have space/budget restrictions and also want something with Hulu Plus, Netflix & Amazon On-Demand. I noticed you have an Oppo 95 as well and I was surprised you said the 500 sounds quite good. As a transport only(using digital coax or toslink) for Red Book CDs how does this sound in relation to the Oppo? I have a Sony BDP-570 currently which is a two year old BR player and for music CDs sounds absolutely awful. I also have the very first blu-ray player that would bitstream DTS-HD (A Samsung, but don't remember model #) and it sounded sigificantly better than the sony, so I know there is sound quality differences between transports. I also have an old California Audio Labs CD player (using coax to processor as well) from 1999 and the difference between this and the Samsung was slightly noticeable, but not drastic like the sony and the samsung. I would of been able to live with the Samsung as an all arounder for blu-rays and CDs but since it has no streaming I am opting for something newer. I am hoping the new Panny will get me close to my old Samsung. The Oppo 93 would be my first choice(since it uses the same transport as the 95 with a lower quality DAC section), but it does not have Amazon or Hulu Plus. Any help you can offer would be much appreciated especially since you have some hours on it now. I know I can buy it and demo it for myself, but I feel a little bad about buying and returning the player if it has no chance to meet my expectations. Cheers!

I've used the Panasonic BDT500 player as a transport; i.e. both for playback of stereo CD discs (via rear analog RCA outs), as well as playback of high quality rips of CD discs as stereo .flac files (16/44.1 format files on an external 2.5" USB HDD, via rear analog RCA outs), and also as a transport (using the rear single orange coax RCA out for stereo S/PDIF format) with two different high quality external DAC units: 1) Bel Canto DAC3 and 2) Benchmark DAC1/HDR.

If you like the sound of the Panasonic BDT500 player for playback of stereo CD discs, it is likely you'll like the player as a transport. IOW the sound is comparable using the unit's internal stereo DACs vs using it with an external stereo DAC unit. Not to mention that the street price is now half that of the OPPO 93.

But I have zero experience with using either an OPPO 93 or 95.
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post #762 of 1215
7/26/12 at 8:02am
Hello Othersongs...are you saying the internal DAC of the 500 is comparable to those two highly regarded external DACs (Bel Canto & Bench MArk)? I find that hard to believe but since you have them and are using them I will take your word for it and may give the player a chance since Bestbuy does have a great return policy.

Although I would still love to hear from Ti-triodes.

Thanks again othersongs.
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post #763 of 1215
7/26/12 at 8:04am
or anyone else who has listened to the Oppo 93/95 as a transport vs. the panny 500.

Thanks!
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post #764 of 1215
7/26/12 at 9:06am
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...are you saying the internal DAC of the 500 is comparable to those two highly regarded external DACs (Bel Canto & Bench MArk)?

It's comparable to the Benchmark DAC1/HDR, and just slightly better than the Bel Canto DAC3. That's via coax RCA with redbook S/PDIF.

The Bel Canto DAC3 isn't so good with Toslink/optical cable, but it's been a while since I've tried that; I've not tried Toslink/optical cable with the Benchmark DAC1/HDR.
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I find that hard to believe but since you have them and are using them I will take your word for it and may give the player a chance since Bestbuy does have a great return policy.
Although I would still love to hear from Ti-triodes.

You can always PM ti-triodes

You can also use advanced search to see which forums he usually posts on a
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post #765 of 1215
7/26/12 at 9:24am
wow that's great to know thanks so much for your quick response Othersongs!
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post #766 of 1215
7/26/12 at 4:28pm
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wow that's great to know thanks so much for your quick response Othersongs!



OtherSongs has more experience using the 500 as a transport unit than I have. Good advice. I replied to your PM with some of my thoughts about the Oppo/ Panny units. Hope it helps.
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post #767 of 1215
7/30/12 at 11:46am
Hi guys!
I just hooked up my BDT500P and after hours of trying I can't get cd audio out HDMI SUB through my Onkyo TXSR-805.I tried everything I could think of.frown.gif
I had audio coming to my TV before I set HDMI audio output to off

EDIT:When I connect to my Onkyo via optical cable I have the sound, NOT with HDMI , don't get it
Edited by unijabass - 7/30/12 at 12:06pm
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post #768 of 1215
7/30/12 at 4:16pm
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Hi guys!
I just hooked up my BDT500P and after hours of trying I can't get cd audio out HDMI SUB through my Onkyo TXSR-805.I tried everything I could think of.frown.gif
I had audio coming to my TV before I set HDMI audio output to off
EDIT:When I connect to my Onkyo via optical cable I have the sound, NOT with HDMI , don't get it



Have you checked to see if HDMI output has been turned on? Is the HDMI SUB setting properly set up? One's in the Audio setup and the other is in the Video setup.

And in case you were wondering, yes, setting up a Panny is confusing! smile.gif
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post #769 of 1215
7/30/12 at 5:28pm
Thanks for your respond!
I set HDMI(SUB) to V.OFF, and HDMI Audio Output to on, scratching my head.
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post #770 of 1215
7/30/12 at 5:45pm
Turn off secondary audio....
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post #771 of 1215
7/30/12 at 5:47pm
I did, it really puzzles me.Maybe dead HDMI port
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post #772 of 1215
7/30/12 at 6:49pm
Any ideas about HDD compatibility ???

Hooked up an old USB 320 GB HDD and it works fine. Hook up a new USB 3TB HDD and unit sais "not compatible"

Well, what exactly is required for compatibility ? I've searched but can find ZERO information describing anything beyond "usb compatible HDD".

Both drives are external and externally powered with NTFS formatting so its not the file structure or power issues. Larger drive is USB 3 with USB 2 compatibility that woks fine with both the USB 2 and USB 3 ports on my laptop.

I was planning on transfering a bunch of audio and video to the big drive but if the BDT500 only works with old legacy drives then whats the point ?

Anybody successfully using a "new" (not legacy) USB HDD on their machine ? By "new" I'm only refering to what has been main-stream storage for the last 2 years.
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post #773 of 1215
7/30/12 at 7:11pm
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Any ideas about HDD compatibility ???
Hooked up an old USB 320 GB HDD and it works fine. Hook up a new USB 3TB HDD and unit sais "not compatible"
Well, what exactly is required for compatibility ? I've searched but can find ZERO information describing anything beyond "usb compatible HDD".
Both drives are external and externally powered with NTFS formatting so its not the file structure or power issues. Larger drive is USB 3 with USB 2 compatibility that woks fine with both the USB 2 and USB 3 ports on my laptop.
I was planning on transfering a bunch of audio and video to the big drive but if the BDT500 only works with old legacy drives then whats the point ?
Anybody successfully using a "new" (not legacy) USB HDD on their machine ? By "new" I'm only refering to what has been main-stream storage for the last 2 years.

It is very likely that drives larger than 2TB are not supported. This is a special boundary due to addressing. More info here:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/235088/everything_you_need_to_know_about_3tb_hard_drives.html
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post #774 of 1215
7/30/12 at 8:11pm
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It is very likely that drives larger than 2TB are not supported. This is a special boundary due to addressing. More info here:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/235088/everything_you_need_to_know_about_3tb_hard_drives.html

Thanks for the reply biggrin.gif Unfortunately, the article points out the problem is primarily with internal HDD's. External units have a controller chip in the enclosure that take care of the addressing. I shrunk the drive to 1.5 TB to check if that made any difference in the compatibility but it didn't help.
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post #775 of 1215
7/31/12 at 7:19am
tpollagi,

Too often, what is "supposed to be" and "what is" are not the same frown.gif

Note that what you did was change the size of the primary partition. You did not change the capacity of the drive. To change the drive itself, you'd have to disassemble it and remove platters.

You need to try a drive which has a maximum physical capacity of 2GB or less.
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post #776 of 1215
7/31/12 at 10:00am
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I did, it really puzzles me.Maybe dead HDMI port


Turn the hdmi monitor out to off on your 805 and see if that helps.
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post #777 of 1215
7/31/12 at 4:54pm
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tpollagi,
Too often, what is "supposed to be" and "what is" are not the same frown.gif
Note that what you did was change the size of the primary partition. You did not change the capacity of the drive. To change the drive itself, you'd have to disassemble it and remove platters.
You need to try a drive which has a maximum physical capacity of 2GB or less.


I appreciate the reply, but I can't accept this. This drive is going to work with my player; I have already decided that biggrin.gif Now I just need to convince the bdt500 that I am in charge and as long as its under my roof it will do as I say biggrin.gif

I think a low level re-format with 2 partitions will be my next stop. I do agree that that a simple shrink is not the same as a true re-format.
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post #778 of 1215
7/31/12 at 8:03pm
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Turn the hdmi monitor out to off on your 805 and see if that helps.
I came back home today, checked that, monitor out set to no.
I turn on the player and it works.Sound is coming out:)I'm not sure why. Did not touch anything, except it was turned off and on today.
So happy.
Sounds amazing.I am a musician, and I can confirm that this thing is one peace of technology that didn't disappoint me.
My room is just full of that quality separated sound, from bottom to the top.
Picture is also good, but it looks like I have issues with my tv, so I will wait with that.
Thanks for replies guys!!This forum is amazing!
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post #779 of 1215
8/2/12 at 12:12pm
Applause for .flac music files on external 2.5" USB HDD drives with Panasonic DMP BDT500 player!

Just got my 2nd external 2.5" USB HDD drive. A WD "My Passport" 500GB unit that comes formatted as NTFS.

Currently $70 (plus tax) from my local Costco. They also carry Seagate (1TB and bigger) but my homework suggested to avoid those even though the price was peanuts more.

Anyhow, using with a Panasonic DMP BDT500 player. So far mostly with stereo redbook .flac files; but also with a few 24/96 5.1 hi-rez .flac files.

Totally impressive. smile.gif
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post #780 of 1215
8/3/12 at 9:44am
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Applause for .flac music files on external 2.5" USB HDD drives with Panasonic DMP BDT500 player!
Just got my 2nd external 2.5" USB HDD drive. A WD "My Passport" 500GB unit that comes formatted as NTFS.
Currently $70 (plus tax) from my local Costco. They also carry Seagate (1TB and bigger) but my homework suggested to avoid those even though the price was peanuts more.
Anyhow, using with a Panasonic DMP BDT500 player. So far mostly with stereo redbook .flac files; but also with a few 24/96 5.1 hi-rez .flac files.
Totally impressive. smile.gif

What are your settings to get .FLAC files to play?confused.gif I've owned this unit since May and have yet to get .FLAC files to play from a 1TB and 1.5TB USB HDD. I have 2 other transports that play .FLAC from these drives with no prblem.eek.gif
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