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post #961 of 1791
I cant argue your points.... Yes "everything" including full install and support was purchased from BestBuy.
I spoke with store mgr yesterday and they swapped out my 500 for a new one -- same issue with the sound.... On Tues they are sending another tech to look into this problem - they also have another 3313CI for me to be swapped out as well....

Steve
post #962 of 1791
Looking for legacy 3D video compatibility between:
BDT500
Mits 65833 DLP
Mits 3DC-1000 3D starter kit/adapter

1) Will these components work together for 3D?
2) Will the DLP's 3D FX Gaming mode input accept
a connection from the BDT500 (Viera HDAVI off?)
3) Does the BDT500 offer checkerboard format?
post #963 of 1791
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Originally Posted by ay221 View Post

For the 3d settings, is it best to leave the distance defaulted to -2 and screen type to round?

I'm bumping this question because I would like to know what others have found in playing with the distance and screen type settings in the 3D menus. I've tried googling and just can't seem to find anything. If the default is "-2," does that mean that if I set it to 2 or 3 that objects will appear to pop out more? Is this the equivalent to changing screen size settings in a Sony 3D player? Also, I haven't a clue what flat versus round would do in the screen type.

Beyond that, I will add that I'm pretty pleased with this player after a couple of days. I needed something to feed high def sound to my HDMI 1.3 AVR (Onkyo 705), and the 7.1 analog outs are great. I tried the sub HDMI out, but my Onkyo had real problems negotiating and keeping the handshake. I could get it to work, but only with great effort, and then it wouldn't stick. As others have mentioned, the remote is a work of the antichrist.....
post #964 of 1791
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Originally Posted by NMJack View Post

Beyond that, I will add that I'm pretty pleased with this player after a couple of days. I needed something to feed high def sound to my HDMI 1.3 AVR (Onkyo 705), and the 7.1 analog outs are great. I tried the sub HDMI out, but my Onkyo had real problems negotiating and keeping the handshake. I could get it to work, but only with great effort, and then it wouldn't stick. As others have mentioned, the remote is a work of the antichrist.....
Did you set the video off for the sub HDMI output? The default setting is ON. A blue light on the front panel displays when you have sub HDMI video off. If not and since the Onky 705 is an older AVR, then it is bound to have problems negotiating a 3D video signal. That 705 however would be a keeper for me. I think if you set subHDMI to v.off, it should do the trick. Just curious, but If the 7.1 analog audio outputs are so great, why even bother with the sub HDMI audio out? I didn't like the bdt500's 7.1 analog outputs due to the bare bones bass management which was really useless for what I need. I totally agree with you that the BDT500 remote is total flop. No big deal though. I just programmed my universal remote to control the BDT500.
post #965 of 1791
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Originally Posted by Star Hawk View Post

Did you set the video off for the sub HDMI output? The default setting is ON. A blue light on the front panel displays when you have sub HDMI video off. If not and since the Onky 705 is an older AVR, then it is bound to have problems negotiating a 3D video signal. That 705 however would be a keeper for me. I think if you set subHDMI to v.off, it should do the trick. Just curious, but If the 7.1 analog audio outputs are so great, why even bother with the sub HDMI audio out? I didn't like the bdt500's 7.1 analog outputs due to the bare bones bass management which was really useless for what I need. I totally agree with you that the BDT500 remote is total flop. No big deal though. I just programmed my universal remote to control the BDT500.

Thanks for the input. Yeah, I tried all of the settings for the HDMI sub and the 705 just wouldn't be happy with any of them. It was one of the very early HDMI 1.3 AVRs and it has always had to "think" a bit when swapping HDMI sources. It is a good solid 7.1 AVR, so I'm fine where I'm at. One nice thing about using its "multichannel" inputs (the 7.1 analogs) is that it clearly states in the manual that all of the sound and video processing is off in that mode.
post #966 of 1791
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Originally Posted by Selden Ball View Post

Sorry: Oppo is not sold by BB. It's primarily an internet-direct company, resold by only a few audio/video stores.
The Sony BDP-S790 is sold by Best Buy, though. It has two HDMI outputs (similar to the Panasonic DMP-BDT500) so that it can send high-definition 3D video to the TV and high-definition audio to the receiver if the receiver is not 3D-capable. Since it has stereo analog audio outputs, it'll work fine when they are connected for use in Zone 2.
Can you persuade your local BB to "loan" you players of the models you're interested in? They might have some that are "open-box". Actually trying them out might be the best way to help you determine if they're compatible with your other equipment.

The new magnolia room's in best buy sell them. My local one in texas has them as their main unit now.
post #967 of 1791
I was speaking to a panasonic rep months back, and something he said I wrote down never made sense to me until today. Trying to revisit this conversation with some AVS Folks.

He mentioned one of the great advantages of the DMP-BDT500 was the ability (even if your whole system is 3d capable) to split the HDMI video and audio into two streams, two separate cables.

Send Audio only to the receiver, and send video out to the monitor.

The reasoning he gave me that I wrote down, was the hdmi stream is currently getting saturated, so the blu ray players have to down sample the output to fit on the limited bandwidth.

When you separate it out, it allows for the raw output to be sent over without any compressing.

At the time it didn't make sense because the audio in this case is bit streaming and I'm sure there is a set protocol.


So what does AVS forums think of this? Does any of this make sense, or in a full 3d capable everything case is it just equivalent to feed the 3d capable AVR with the single hdmi cable.


Something in the manual that MAY point to this, page 27, high clarity sound plus states:

"when playing back music contents, it improves the sound quality by stopping the video output"

Is this a reference showing that better output is possible, when freeing up the hdmi stream by removing video?
post #968 of 1791
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Originally Posted by kamiraa View Post

The new magnolia room's in best buy sell them. My local one in texas has them as their main unit now.
Thanks for the correction! Unfortunately, Magnolia rooms aren't in most BBs. Our local BB doesn't have one. frown.gif
post #969 of 1791
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Originally Posted by kamiraa View Post

I was speaking to a panasonic rep months back, and something he said I wrote down never made sense to me until today. Trying to revisit this conversation with some AVS Folks.

He mentioned one of the great advantages of the DMP-BDT500 was the ability (even if your whole system is 3d capable) to split the HDMI video and audio into two streams, two separate cables.

Send Audio only to the receiver, and send video out to the monitor.

The reasoning he gave me that I wrote down, was the hdmi stream is currently getting saturated, so the blu ray players have to down sample the output to fit on the limited bandwidth.

When you separate it out, it allows for the raw output to be sent over without any compressing.

At the time it didn't make sense because the audio in this case is bit streaming and I'm sure there is a set protocol.


So what does AVS forums think of this? Does any of this make sense, or in a full 3d capable everything case is it just equivalent to feed the 3d capable AVR with the single hdmi cable.


Something in the manual that MAY point to this, page 27, high clarity sound plus states:

"when playing back music contents, it improves the sound quality by stopping the video output"

Is this a reference showing that better output is possible, when freeing up the hdmi stream by removing video?
Complete BS. Not a word of that is true. The only reason dual HDMI exists on these players is for compatibility with legacy receivers that can't handle 3D.

High clarity only applies to analog, not HDMI. It's also complete BS IMO as an electrical engineer.
post #970 of 1791
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Originally Posted by kamiraa View Post

The reasoning he gave me that I wrote down, was the hdmi stream is currently getting saturated, so the blu ray players have to down sample the output to fit on the limited bandwidth.

When you separate it out, it allows for the raw output to be sent over without any compressing.

At the time it didn't make sense because the audio in this case is bit streaming and I'm sure there is a set protocol.

So what does AVS forums think of this? Does any of this make sense, or in a full 3d capable everything case is it just equivalent to feed the 3d capable AVR with the single hdmi cable.
Something in the manual that MAY point to this, page 27, high clarity sound plus states:
"when playing back music contents, it improves the sound quality by stopping the video output"
Is this a reference showing that better output is possible, when freeing up the hdmi stream by removing video?

Untrue and just pure marketing. I have 3 transports with dual HDMI output and there is no audio or video improvement when trying this configuration in my setup. Some have claimed to see and hear a difference, but I have a pretty decent setup, 20/10 vision and what I would consider pretty good hearing and if someone is hearing or seeing a difference then they need to check their setup.biggrin.gif
post #971 of 1791
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

Complete BS. Not a word of that is true. The only reason dual HDMI exists on these players is for compatibility with legacy receivers that can't handle 3D.
High clarity only applies to analog, not HDMI. It's also complete BS IMO as an electrical engineer.

I think the manual and what I'm reading elsewhere have some confusion. I wish I could get an functional schematic lol

I'm going to have to research this some more (also an EE with a MS)
post #972 of 1791
When using the 7.1 analog output and a Pioneer VSX 1018AH; I am only using 5.1, should I connect the LS/RS or the LB/RB?
Edited by CRITICALSHOT - 10/28/12 at 7:06pm
post #973 of 1791
LS/RS
post #974 of 1791
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Originally Posted by David Susilo View Post

LS/RS

That's what I thought. It seemed strange when I did the db test and the LS and RS came on in unison. I corrected it by selecting 2ch (downmix) + 5.1ch, but when doing the db test the sub does not receive a test signal. The sub does work when listening to music or films though.

Firmware Update Version 1.49 just out:

DMP-BBT01,DMP-BDT120/220/221/320/321/500 - Enhanced Firmware 1.49A for selected models (CP,EB,EE,EF,EG,GA,GC,GK,GN,GT,GW,LB,P,PC,PU,PX)
by FirmwareInfo » Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:45 am

We are proud to announce the immediate availabilty of our enhanced firmware version 1.49A for Panasonic™ DMP-BBT01, DMP-BDT120, DMP-BDT220, DMP-BDT221, DMP-BDT320, DMP-BDT321 and DMP-BDT500 3D Blu-ray players !

This firmware release features the following geographic locations:

China, Commonwealth of Independent States, Europe, Hong Kong, India, Latin America, Middle East, North America, Oceania, South East Asia, Taiwan, United Kingdom

and supports the following device models:

DMP-BBT01EB/EG/GN/P/PC,
DMP-BDT120EB/EE/EF/EG,
DMP-BDT220CP/EB/EF/EG/GA/GC/GK/GN/GT/GW/LB/P/PC/PU/PX,
DMP-BDT221EG,
DMP-BDT320EB/EE/EF/EG/GA/GC/GN/P/PC/PU,
DMP-BDT321P,
DMP-BDT500EB/EG/P/PC

Feature list:

DVD and Blu-ray region changing with the original Panasonic™ remote control (Available DVD regions: 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 / Available Blu-ray regions: A,B,C) with DVD region verification deactivation
DVD UOP (User operation prohibition) deactivation
Blu-Ray PUO (Protected user operation) deactivation
Additional audio enhancement modes for all models
High clarity sound for all models
Multichannel audio reformatting for all models
Advanced video status information for all models
PAL support for all models

I can't get the advanced video status information to display (bitrate, codec, etc.).
Edited by CRITICALSHOT - 10/29/12 at 7:04am
post #975 of 1791
Anyone want to help me out with the enhanced firmware? I tried to join the forum but wasn't "accepted". Would like to try it out on my BDT500 here in North America.
post #976 of 1791
Thanks anyway. Don't know why my account wasn't accepted.
post #977 of 1791
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Originally Posted by H8nXTC View Post

Thanks anyway. Don't know why my account wasn't accepted.

I happened to be banned right after my registration because of the application form wasn't right for the FW request.
I was -and still am- ready to pay to have my BDT500 region hacked but couldn't find anywhere/anyone to help.
The shame is that i own a couple of my favourites movies on R1 discs (because they were way cheaper than over here and i always planned on having a multiregion player) when my 500 is R2 as i live in CEE.
post #978 of 1791
The MAC address issue.

And how about someone post a model for the application that would be 100% correct ? We'd just need to copy and paste and modify our personal details.
post #979 of 1791
Will someone please help me out. I purchased a BDT500 a few weeks ago and the picture is very staticy/jittery. See the attached video for the problem. I'm running the bd player then 40' monoprice redmere hdmi cable directly to the HDTV which is a Samasung un60es6500. I've tried numerous things and finally figured out that I'm sending 1080/60p which is the factory preset for this blu-ray it's very staticy/jittery however if I go into the settings and downgrade the video output to 24fps the problem goes away. Do I need to send back the bd player, hdmi cable or tv?

post #980 of 1791
I already have my Pana.
"LOL" as much as you want, mind you, there's not a single french speaking forum about this region hack topic.
I would be curious to see what you'd achieve on a foreign language forum yourself. I thought some people would be more helpful over here.
All your comments after my(previous) posts were cynical, mocking and quite disrespectful.
If my messages seem to be dumb to you, please ignore them instead.
post #981 of 1791
I applied and under the application question: Can your display device display a PAL signal I stated no. Received an e-mail stating that's why I was denied. So I purchased from amazon a device that can convert PAL to NTSC and resigned up to the forum, now answering Yes. My second application was denied, but the 2nd time I didn't receive a reason why or any e-mail.
post #982 of 1791
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Originally Posted by LRC253 View Post

Will someone please help me out. I purchased a BDT500 a few weeks ago and the picture is very staticy/jittery. See the attached video for the problem. I'm running the bd player then 40' monoprice redmere hdmi cable directly to the HDTV which is a Samasung un60es6500. I've tried numerous things and finally figured out that I'm sending 1080/60p which is the factory preset for this blu-ray it's very staticy/jittery however if I go into the settings and downgrade the video output to 24fps the problem goes away. Do I need to send back the bd player, hdmi cable or tv?

Not sure, but you may want to check either the output mode of your player, or your television. Is it possible that one (or both) are in 3D mode? 3D mode would certainly give you a jittery image, if you weren't watching it through a set of 3D glasses.
post #983 of 1791
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Originally Posted by LRC253 View Post

Will someone please help me out. I purchased a BDT500 a few weeks ago and the picture is very staticy/jittery. See the attached video for the problem. I'm running the bd player then 40' monoprice redmere hdmi cable directly to the HDTV which is a Samasung un60es6500. I've tried numerous things and finally figured out that I'm sending 1080/60p which is the factory preset for this blu-ray it's very staticy/jittery however if I go into the settings and downgrade the video output to 24fps the problem goes away. Do I need to send back the bd player, hdmi cable or tv?

Why do you say "downgrade the video to 24fps"? Ths is the native frame rate for most blu ray discs and should be used if your display is capable. If not, then the player has to do additional processing to convert to 60fps. This could induce judder.
CT
post #984 of 1791
Updated new firmware, still no fix on streaming from a NAS for MKV, still jittery. The USB Connection works great (local HD or Flash Drive connected through USB to the BDT-500)

I submitted another complaint with Panasonic, and starting to find other threads pop on on other forums with people having the same issues.

I moved my WDLive into the room, to handle MKV playback . . . it works great. Pretty disappointing thus far . .
post #985 of 1791
No problem.
Edited by eduardorreis - 11/13/12 at 7:30pm
post #986 of 1791
Sorry I was away from this for a while. The problem was happening with HD cable, DVD, BD ... everything that sent over a 1080/60p signal. I have been on the Samsung owners forums and this is a direct problem with the smarthub software that was updated the day I got my TV hooked up. To fix the problem I needed to disable the "smartsync" app and decline the agreement terms and now everything works perfectly. Samsung is well aware of the problem because this effected all Samsung models 6100-7100 and I believe a few plasma TV's as well so there should be another firmware fix happening soon.

Anyways thanks for everyone's response.
post #987 of 1791
Just curious, as I picked up a 500 yesterday - would there be any benefits for me using the 7.1 analog outs to my Pioneer Elite SC05 receiver over using the dual HDMI? I rarely listen to music, so this would be only for getting the best, powerful sound from my BD movies.
post #988 of 1791
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Originally Posted by WRX_Rocky View Post

Just curious, as I picked up a 500 yesterday - would there be any benefits for me using the 7.1 analog outs to my Pioneer Elite SC05 receiver over using the dual HDMI? I rarely listen to music, so this would be only for getting the best, powerful sound from my BD movies.

Probably not.

Aside from the 500 player having 2 HDMI out connectors, it's 7.1 analog RCA outs is the other main feature that you pay for.

Way easier to use the 500's sound via an HDMI connector into an AVR.

And if you didn't need 2 HDMI out connectors, you'd have saved a lot of money by buying the current 220 player.
post #989 of 1791
The difference between the 500 and 220 is the 2 HDMIs, 7.1 Analog output and the touchpad remote. (Which is pretty much what you said OtherSongs, but it sounded a bit like you meant the 220 has the 7.1 analog output as well. I just wanted that to be clear for people.)

I always felt it was sort of silly that Panny makes one upscale model with 2 different upgraded audio connections. People that buy it will either need 7.1 analog OR dual HDMI. It's unlikely that any one buyer would have need for both.

It would have been a good way to keep the price down by splitting those outputs into 2 different models.
post #990 of 1791
When playing a CD and pressing a number on the remote, like 5 or 6, I would expect the player to jump to the track with this number, as with other CD or DVD players that I had, but it does not happen. Is it normal? If yes, it is a very incovenient thing, and probably could be corrected by firmware.
I also have problem with a USB HDD 500 MB PQI, most of the times after connecting the Panny says either no USB device connected or incompatible USB disc, I am going to try a solution by Shaka from a different forum:
"Problem solved! Last night I disconnected everything from the unit, including the power cable, and left it like this overnight.
Re-connected everything back and it now detects the USB and plays all media from it."
Like good old times with Windows computer:p
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