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Should Media Extender on 360 be so slow?

post #1 of 11
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Last night I was tinkering with Media Extender on the 360. My son and wife wanted to watch some videos that I had stored on my Synology box as MKV files. Some thoughts:

1) Nowhere do they make it clear that you need to apparently need to add network shares and the library directly on the xbox's instance of Media Center. I browsed the Media Center on my PC and it showed the proper folder structure of my shared library. On the 360, there was no sign until I manually added the folder.

2) I actually wanted to use PlayOn, TVersity or PS3 Media player for the stream functionality...but they apparently all use VLC to stream the files. They do a fine job, EXCEPT that they only list the files with a name and details of AVIDEMUX, which means that in a folder of 26 videos, I can't tell one from another.

And that brings me to my core point, which is...should Media Extender's interface performance is really slow. Is this normal? The system that it's running on its fairly beefy, but the interface via the 360 is like it's in molasses. Is that just the nature of the beast? Navigating the menus became almost comical as I'd press a button and think nothing had happened, then watch a video start and try to stop it and inadvertantly stop and then restart it again.

It wasn't always abysmally slow, but it was far worse performance for the interface than I'd expected.
post #2 of 11
It was very slow for me too when I used it.I stopped using it just because it was so slow.
post #3 of 11
Extremely slow for me as I stopped using it as well. Disappointing as it seems other people might not have any issues.

Hopefully someone posts some tips in this threads as I'd love to use it.
post #4 of 11
Yeah, it's not as fast as using WMC natively on your desktop.

What I do to help keep the speed up is to limit the library by keeping the number of folders and files low that the program scans. That includes MP3s, movies, etc. It seems to scan every time you load the program. I keep dedicated folders for the 360 with a small number of select files. Also, the only videos are the recorded videos (WTV and dvr-ms).

I only use WMC on the Xbox for browsing the EPG and watching live TV or DVR stuff.

Bumping up the speed of my desktop helped immensely. Before, I had a dual core AMD X2 6000. Then I went up to an AMD Phenom II quad core X4 940.
post #5 of 11
It was slow at first, but now it's actually pretty fast. I am connected via ethernet though - are you guys?
post #6 of 11
another thing that was discussed in previous WMC extender threads in this forum (use the search function!) was that the processing is done on the host computer and only the UI is streamed to the extender device.

So I guess the best way to have a fast WMC experience on the 360 is to have a fast desktop PC.

here's an excerpt from the Wikipedia page:

The server software, which runs on the host PC and streams the media, is built into Windows Media Center. An MCX device must be paired with the MCE software before use; this is done by pairing the MCE software with an identifying number generated by the MCX device.

The MCE software makes the user interface available via the Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP, which is also used by Remote Desktop client). All processing done by the MCE software and plug-ins happen at the host computer; only the user interface is streamed to the MCX devices.

As such, the device can render the interface even though the Media Center-specific software (or the plug-ins) might not be installed there. However, the media files are streamed over a different protocol. To render the media, the Extender needs to have an implementation of the codec used to package the media locally installed on the Extender; having the codec on the host computer is not enough. Alternatively media can be trans-coded on the fly by the host computer to a codec that is supported by the Extender. In Windows 7 this is now a standard feature which will probably relieve Extender vendors in the future from having to include such a wide variety of codecs.
post #7 of 11
It never worked right for me. I gave up on using the Xbox for streaming.
post #8 of 11
It's always been very fast for me. Granted, I don't have a large video library....just DVR files recorded through WMC, but I do have several thousand MP3's that are quick to scan and load.
post #9 of 11
Does hardware version of the Xbox come into play here at all?

We have two Xbox....one with a hard drive one without...both are slim models, the non-hard drive model is wireless networked...the interface is slow on that machine, but pretty snappy on the hard drive model

In fact, the low power PC that is hosting the session, could not handle the "waterfall" album art background without freezing up, so far the hard drive model is handling it like a champ.
post #10 of 11
I'm not certain if having a hard drive will make a difference or not....have never tried without one, but that's easy enough for you to test. Take the drive from the one and put on the other and see if that speeds things up.

I'd say that the fact that the slow unit connects wireless is more likely your issue. Again, easy to test if you can run a temporary cable.

As for hardware version playing a part....not sure if you were referring to with/without hard drive or actual differences in the hardware revision, but that does not play a part. I have a launch era 360 and another that is a several revisions newer (last version before slim came out) and they both use MC perfectly. No noticeable difference. They do both have hard drives and are hard wired.
post #11 of 11
Thread Starter 
I haven't tested extensively, but my tests say 'No'.

I have an older 360 with a hard drive and a slim with only a 4GB memory unit. They perform about the same, IME. Both are over a wifi connection, which may contribute to the problem, but I suspect it's the number of files (1300+), not the content. Other media sharing programs don't act slowly to my consoles and it DID get faster once it saved some of the local images for the thumbnails of the videos.

But it's still dog slow for something that is basically just a pretty interface to a network share, IMHO.
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