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post #781 of 1004
12/4/12 at 9:20pm
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When I used to own the AIOS, it would play 1:1 high bitrate MKV's without issues.

Same for me. Sorry...
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post #782 of 1004
12/5/12 at 9:41pm
Can you guys quantify what you mean by high bitrate? I did some more testing with the files here: http://jell.yfish.us/. Over SMB, the highest bitrate file that will smoothly play is 40mbps. Over NFS, the highest bitrate file that will smoothly play is 50mbps.

Are you guys getting better performance? Can you please tell me the highest bitrate file from that site that you can SMOOTHLY play on your AIOS?

And if you *are* getting better performance, can you please tell me about your setup? SMB vs. NFS, gigabit ethernet vs. something else... try to help me figure out what is wrong with my setup.

Thanks!
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post #783 of 1004
12/5/12 at 9:47pm
One of the files I can play on my Pivos is 26320 kbps.

I believe it's SMB. unRAID server > gb switch > in wall wiring > gb switch > Pivos.

I'm downloading the 40Mb and 60Mb files for testing. I'll report back shortly.

40Mb file played fine. Looked great, too. 60Mb file stuttered when played over the network, but played fine when loaded onto a USB flash drive and plugged into the Pivos.
Edited by jeff.lebowski - 12/5/12 at 10:11pm
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post #784 of 1004
12/6/12 at 12:33am
What I mean with high bitrate is playing BD ripped movies without losing any video or sound quality. I think the highest bitrate I saw from my ex-AIOS was like 36k.
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post #785 of 1004
12/6/12 at 1:58am
hello, my first post on this forum. Please accept my apologies if this has been answered on this thread. I currently backup my movies using dvdfab full movie mode into an external NTFS formatted HD. I then use AVCHD Manager to identify movie (probably not necessary) and select movie as default. Selecting a default basically renames the movie folder to AVCHD. I then plug my external HD to my blu-ray player and navigate to Video and select my USB HD and play the AVCHD Folder and the movie plays exactly like the original blu-ray. I get one message (Cannot correctly identify disc. Cannot use network function of the disc) which goes away after a quick second and the movie plays fine. With the AIOS do I have to rename movie folder to AVCHD or does it play it fine without renaming and does the movie playback in 1080/24p with all menu options from the original blu-ray? I know it supports FULL HD, it just doesnt mention 24p. Thanks to anyone who responds and apologies for the long post :-)
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post #786 of 1004
12/6/12 at 3:33am
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hello, my first post on this forum. Please accept my apologies if this has been answered on this thread. I currently backup my movies using dvdfab full movie mode into an external NTFS formatted HD. I then use AVCHD Manager to identify movie (probably not necessary) and select movie as default. Selecting a default basically renames the movie folder to AVCHD. I then plug my external HD to my blu-ray player and navigate to Video and select my USB HD and play the AVCHD Folder and the movie plays exactly like the original blu-ray. I get one message (Cannot correctly identify disc. Cannot use network function of the disc) which goes away after a quick second and the movie plays fine. With the AIOS do I have to rename movie folder to AVCHD or does it play it fine without renaming and does the movie playback in 1080/24p with all menu options from the original blu-ray? I know it supports FULL HD, it just doesnt mention 24p. Thanks to anyone who responds and apologies for the long post :-)

You don't have to do AVCHD. You can name the movie in any way. It does 1080/24. I would recommend ripping your movie to main movie M2TS format. AIOS doesn't play BD ISO's only DVD ISO's FYI.
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12/6/12 at 3:46am
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You don't have to do AVCHD. You can name the movie in any way. It does 1080/24. I would recommend ripping your movie to main movie M2TS format. AIOS doesn't play BD ISO's only DVD ISO's FYI.

I didnt realize this was AVS Forum looks different (was half asleep), that post above from akasinned is me so that was not my first post :-) I really wanted a media player that will play back my back up movies with full menu's, special features, etc. I actually thought I read somewhere that this player does do this with blu-ray (probably misinformation or maybe I read it wrong) edit: i just looked it up and according to specs it says blu-ray iso w/navigation
Edited by akadennis - 12/6/12 at 4:07am
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12/6/12 at 9:56am
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

You don't have to do AVCHD. You can name the movie in any way. It does 1080/24. I would recommend ripping your movie to main movie M2TS format. AIOS doesn't play BD ISO's only DVD ISO's FYI.

I rip my blu rays to iso and they indeed play on the AIOS. It's true that most BD menues won't play properly either in iso or M2TS, however.
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12/6/12 at 10:25am
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I rip my blu rays to iso and they indeed play on the AIOS. It's true that most BD menues won't play properly either in iso or M2TS, however.

thanks for your reply. i'm fairly new to this whole media player thing so please excuse my lack of knowledge. i'm basically looking for a media player that will do what I currently do with my existing blu-ray player which is hook up my NTFS formated external HD to it and play back my full disc copy of my blu-ray. It plays exactly like the original blu-ray. I would like to use a media player for my room because it's hard to find a current model blu-ray player that is not infected with Cinavia.
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post #790 of 1004
12/6/12 at 11:10am
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thanks for your reply. i'm fairly new to this whole media player thing so please excuse my lack of knowledge. i'm basically looking for a media player that will do what I currently do with my existing blu-ray player which is hook up my NTFS formated external HD to it and play back my full disc copy of my blu-ray. It plays exactly like the original blu-ray. I would like to use a media player for my room because it's hard to find a current model blu-ray player that is not infected with Cinavia.

1) Dune media player Smart series. They are solid, stable, but are expensive for 3 yrs old hardware. The customer service and support is almost non-existent.
2) Mede8er 1185 chip old / 1186 chip new. 1185 is 2D / 1184 can play 3D. Both excellent media players, I do not like their jukebox, and it doesn't recognize forced subs. 1185 can't play BD ISO, 1186 will play BD ISO's. More inexpensive, custumer service and support is excellent. Probably 30% cheaper than Dune and PCH.
3) PCH A200 / 210 they are good media players, but discontinued. I own the PCH-A210 and it plays everything I've got (2D only). Their A300 and A400 aren't worth buying.

Out of the 3, I would recommend the Mede8er. Unless you want to spend more money for the Dune, which I own and plays everything without issues, but I've heard and read of some people having issue with them.
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post #791 of 1004
12/6/12 at 4:22pm
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1) Dune media player Smart series. They are solid, stable, but are expensive for 3 yrs old hardware. The customer service and support is almost non-existent.
2) Mede8er 1185 chip old / 1186 chip new. 1185 is 2D / 1184 can play 3D. Both excellent media players, I do not like their jukebox, and it doesn't recognize forced subs. 1185 can't play BD ISO, 1186 will play BD ISO's. More inexpensive, custumer service and support is excellent. Probably 30% cheaper than Dune and PCH.
3) PCH A200 / 210 they are good media players, but discontinued. I own the PCH-A210 and it plays everything I've got (2D only). Their A300 and A400 aren't worth buying.
Out of the 3, I would recommend the Mede8er. Unless you want to spend more money for the Dune, which I own and plays everything without issues, but I've heard and read of some people having issue with them.

which dune do you own? i found 5 models. Dune HD Smart D1 1080P Media Player, Dune HD Smart B1 1080P Media Player, Dune HD Smart H1 1080P Media Player, Dune HD MAX 1080P Blu-Ray Media Player, Dune HD DUO 1080P Blu-Ray Media Player.
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post #792 of 1004
12/6/12 at 6:32pm
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which dune do you own? i found 5 models. Dune HD Smart D1 1080P Media Player, Dune HD Smart B1 1080P Media Player, Dune HD Smart H1 1080P Media Player, Dune HD MAX 1080P Blu-Ray Media Player, Dune HD DUO 1080P Blu-Ray Media Player.


Dune D1.
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post #793 of 1004
12/7/12 at 8:26am
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Originally Posted by Charlie Kocis View Post

I sent my AIOS back to newegg after I found out the hard way that it can't do full-bitrate mkvs AT ALL. I specifically asked about MKVs and aasoror said it would be fine be it most definently is not. Full bitrate in other containers seems to work fine but NOT mkv.

If you played with encoding settings to maintain high bitrate but increase compression you will get nothing but trouble. As many confirmed above (and as I did previously to you) full bit rate BR works fine and so should 1:1 MKVs.
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Can you guys quantify what you mean by high bitrate? I did some more testing with the files here: http://jell.yfish.us/. Over SMB, the highest bitrate file that will smoothly play is 40mbps. Over NFS, the highest bitrate file that will smoothly play is 50mbps.
Are you guys getting better performance? Can you please tell me the highest bitrate file from that site that you can SMOOTHLY play on your AIOS?
And if you *are* getting better performance, can you please tell me about your setup? SMB vs. NFS, gigabit ethernet vs. something else... try to help me figure out what is wrong with my setup.
Thanks!

The highest bitrates jellyfish samples shouldn't be used as benchmarks, these are out of specs files.
If you get 40 and 50 mbps over the network then this is proper for the AIOS (NFS streaming would be better by design).
The AIOS can play standard m2ts streams up to 45 mbps (nominal BR maximum encoding bit rate), mkvs would vary a little depending on encoding settings.
The AIOS is not to be expected to play anything outside the profile High@L4.1 locally (and a little bit lower envelope over the network).
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AIOS doesn't play BD ISO's only DVD ISO's FYI.
It does play BD ISOs (all RT1185 does) but will do the longest track for Java discs and full menus otherwise.
Edited by aasoror - 12/7/12 at 8:39am
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post #794 of 1004
1/1/13 at 5:57pm
So what are you guys using this device for exactly?

I was hoping to surf the web but the browser is pretty terrible, watching movies is a pain because the menus are so slow, and the overall experience just isn't very nice. And I upgraded to the semi-official firmware.
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post #795 of 1004
1/1/13 at 6:09pm
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So what are you guys using this device for exactly?
I was hoping to surf the web but the browser is pretty terrible, watching movies is a pain because the menus are so slow, and the overall experience just isn't very nice. And I upgraded to the semi-official firmware.

Mine plays video files and a few audio files.

.mkv, .avi, .mp4, .vob, .flac, .dts, .mp3.
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post #796 of 1004
1/1/13 at 7:01pm
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Originally Posted by blunt_eastwood View Post

So what are you guys using this device for exactly?

I was hoping to surf the web but the browser is pretty terrible, watching movies is a pain because the menus are so slow, and the overall experience just isn't very nice. And I upgraded to the semi-official firmware.

I used it for several months to stream my movies from my server. It did a good job.
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post #797 of 1004
1/1/13 at 7:53pm
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So what are you guys using this device for exactly?
I was hoping to surf the web but the browser is pretty terrible, watching movies is a pain because the menus are so slow, and the overall experience just isn't very nice. And I upgraded to the semi-official firmware.

I use mine to play back 1080p/24 video with DTS-HD MA/TrueHD audio, hi-rez stereo and multichannel flac, WAV, and MP3s from a portable usb hard drive or flash drive.

It's been awesome with the latest semi official.
Edited by audit13 - 1/2/13 at 7:13am
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post #798 of 1004
1/1/13 at 9:06pm
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Originally Posted by blunt_eastwood View Post

So what are you guys using this device for exactly?
I was hoping to surf the web but the browser is pretty terrible, watching movies is a pain because the menus are so slow, and the overall experience just isn't very nice. And I upgraded to the semi-official firmware.

Its not really meant for web browsing (browser works for basic functionality compatible with mouse/keybaord, but there is no flash support and rendering speed depends on how rich the loaded page is).

How do I use mine ? my media is spread over 3 different NASes, I have a folder per rip arrangement with poster/cover jpgs allowing me to use the cover/poster modes (fixed in R21). All media folders from the NASes are linked under NFS section of the AIOS for faster access.
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1/2/13 at 11:13am
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It's been awesome with the latest semi official.

You're talking about the speed of the menus and the overall experience right? What version are you using?
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Its not really meant for web browsing (browser works for basic functionality compatible with mouse/keybaord, but there is no flash support and rendering speed depends on how rich the loaded page is).
How do I use mine ? my media is spread over 3 different NASes, I have a folder per rip arrangement with poster/cover jpgs allowing me to use the cover/poster modes (fixed in R21). All media folders from the NASes are linked under NFS section of the AIOS for faster access.

Okay so no web browsing. I was hoping to set it up to download torrents using RSS feeds. Is this a good device for that?
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post #800 of 1004
1/2/13 at 12:10pm
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Originally Posted by blunt_eastwood View Post

You're talking about the speed of the menus and the overall experience right? What version are you using?
He is referencing Semiofficial R21
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Okay so no web browsing. I was hoping to set it up to download torrents using RSS feeds. Is this a good device for that?
You can run transmission (updated from optware), not sure how good does transmission play with RSS feeds though.
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post #801 of 1004
1/2/13 at 1:16pm
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You're talking about the speed of the menus and the overall experience right? What version are you using?

Yup, 3.0.1.7 R21. I browse my drives via file manager in a list view. I don't bother with covers or synopsis since I tend to watch and delete.

Speed is fine for me. Overall experience for me has been excellent as I only need it to perform a limited number of functions. I may feel differently about it if I used it to access a NAS, wanted to make use if the cover art/synopsis, surf, or listen to Internet radio.
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post #802 of 1004
1/5/13 at 6:36pm
Thanks for the feedback. IMO as a device to play the media on a HDD I don't think it was worth my $90, though if I got it for cheaper then I'd think it was worth it.
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post #803 of 1004
1/5/13 at 9:39pm
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Originally Posted by blunt_eastwood View Post

Thanks for the feedback. IMO as a device to play the media on a HDD I don't think it was worth my $90, though if I got it for cheaper then I'd think it was worth it.

Where are you located ? there is $30 MIR been running for ages on it.
The thing is, it not "any" media that matters here, its more about what can this unit play that others can not. Simply put, there no device out there (local retail) that can do RAW BRs with HD audio bit streaming that comes any where near the $60 post MIR price that the AIOS is currently selling for. If its mostly SD or moderate bit rate HD MKVs then a $40 android on a stick should do the trick for you.
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post #804 of 1004
1/6/13 at 10:21am
Agreed. My entire movie library consists of ISO images. The Aios has no issues with playback of those in a tiny cheap package. I use an HTPC for my main HT room. But for the kids and/or bedroom etc. this things is ideal.
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post #805 of 1004
1/6/13 at 11:49am
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Where are you located ? there is $30 MIR been running for ages on it.
The thing is, it not "any" media that matters here, its more about what can this unit play that others can not. Simply put, there no device out there (local retail) that can do RAW BRs with HD audio bit streaming that comes any where near the $60 post MIR price that the AIOS is currently selling for. If its mostly SD or moderate bit rate HD MKVs then a $40 android on a stick should do the trick for you.

I see. I didn't know that.

As for the rebate, I thought I had like 30 days or so like most MIR's, but it was only like 5 days and I didn't send it in on time.
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post #806 of 1004
1/6/13 at 12:49pm
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Agreed. My entire movie library consists of ISO images. The Aios has no issues with playback of those in a tiny cheap package. I use an HTPC for my main HT room. But for the kids and/or bedroom etc. this things is ideal.

DVD ISO's will be played by AIOS. BD ISO's are another matter.
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1/6/13 at 1:08pm
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As for the rebate, I thought I had like 30 days or so like most MIR's, but it was only like 5 days and I didn't send it in on time.

It has always been 21 days from invoice date.

http://pivos.myonlinerebate.com/

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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

DVD ISO's will be played by AIOS. BD ISO's are another matter.

BD ISOs always play .. what is being played is a different story wink.gif
- If the bluray is not BD 2.0 (not java based) it will play properly (with full menus and everything).
- if the bluray is BD 2.0 only the longest track gets played.
- Consequently, BD 2.0 movies with multibranching or TV shows will be messed up.
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post #808 of 1004
1/11/13 at 9:40am
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It has always been 21 days from invoice date.

You're right, it was 21 days. Either way I didn't send it in on time.
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post #809 of 1004
1/13/13 at 6:40am
Hey Guys
Has anybody here been able to get audio from HDMI to an Anthem AVM50v to work correctly. I`m running the latest firmware,changed all the settings and I get no audio let alone HD sound.
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1/13/13 at 7:36am
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Hey Guys
Has anybody here been able to get audio from HDMI to an Anthem AVM50v to work correctly. I`m running the latest firmware,changed all the settings and I get no audio let alone HD sound.
Thanks

Were you able to try the Pivos with a different hdmi cable? How about trying a different receiver or pre/pro?
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