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post #241 of 284
Well quite a few people have voiced there views and this set , ( over on another thread / will link U up at the end ) , and some have rebooting issues others have a similar heat problem. But I agree , there must be some good sets out there.

I had my eye on the WT50 47" for a long time until I read somewhere that the quality was not up to par and that the model lower , the "DT50 was actually a better set as far as build quality" ( have heard nothing either way about picture quality between the two) .

Here is that like for the LG-8600 thread if you want to read some remarks ( as well as a few of my own ! ) > :

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1410096/official-lg-47lm8600-55lm8600-owners-thread


Later smile.gif

G. 
post #242 of 284
I don't see this problem at all with my ET5, and since I work out of my house, my TV is on a LOT. That LG IPS panel is just gorgeous! The 2D -> 3D conversion is also pretty darned good too. Really, I'm not seeing things like ghosting or annoying flashlighting. During the day the room is very bright, and while there is some glare, it has never made the picture unwatchable. At night, I get the room plenty dark and I don't see any horrible bright spots, etc. Blacks are deep and plenty dark enough for me. I'm watching From Russia With Love right now which has plenty of night scenes. They are dark, and yet I can discern the detail between the various objects and people in the night scenes. Oh, and this is from an MKV that I am playing off of a HDD connected to the USB port on the TV, so there is compression involved.
post #243 of 284
Can anyone with the ET5 TV - give me some input on what 3D settings or options are on this TV -

i have the TV and i have very limited 3D settings and options - is this the normal or am i missing something ?


i though i seen a screen shot from someone else TV - same model - that showed alot of adjustments you can make with 3D etc, - but all i seem to have is just one option - to go from 2D to 3D or back

i was under the impression i would have a menu of options - to adjust the dept of the 3D etc, - i may be wrong -

if anyone who has this TV - can give me some screen shots of the 3D settings you have on your set ?


i am also using a panasonic 3D player which also has some options - but i am curious about the TV alone for now -

thanks -
post #244 of 284
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Originally Posted by expresso712 View Post

Can anyone with the ET5 TV - give me some input on what 3D settings or options are on this TV -
i have the TV and i have very limited 3D settings and options - is this the normal or am i missing something ?
i though i seen a screen shot from someone else TV - same model - that showed alot of adjustments you can make with 3D etc, - but all i seem to have is just one option - to go from 2D to 3D or back
i was under the impression i would have a menu of options - to adjust the dept of the 3D etc, - i may be wrong -
if anyone who has this TV - can give me some screen shots of the 3D settings you have on your set ?
i am also using a panasonic 3D player which also has some options - but i am curious about the TV alone for now -
thanks -

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post #246 of 284
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HI - thanks thats great - thats the screen i cant seem to get at on my TV --


how did you get to that screen ?

the very first screen which says 3D manual and has all those settings - side by side - etc,
post #247 of 284
i just noticed on that picture - is that on your computer screen ?


or on the TV itself - ?
post #248 of 284
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Originally Posted by expresso712 View Post

i just noticed on that picture - is that on your computer screen ?
or on the TV itself - ?

TV. I just happened to take them as the PC was booting up, I have one connected to it.

To get there push the 3D button then push the Red button on your remote. It took me a while to find the menu, dug it out of some Panasonic website somewhere when I was trying to figure out all the settings.

It's the secret 3D menu.
post #249 of 284
these 3 pictures are the only screens i get on my TV -

and not much can be done there -


do i need to have a disc in the player to get access to other screens or settings ?

this is my first 3D TV so bare with me - smile.gif
post #250 of 284
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sorry these are the screens i can get to - but not much can be done really -
post #251 of 284
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Originally Posted by expresso712 View Post

sorry these are the screens i can get to - but not much can be done really -

That first one.. the 3D Format Select screen.

On that one push the red button on your remote.

This one:



When that is up on the screen push the red button.
post #252 of 284
Looking for some help from fellow ET5 owners (or just experienced members!).

I purchased the 42" ET5 last week during Amazon's Gold Box Deal. Got the TV Wednesday, got it all set up and have been playing with it ever since. I can't help but feel a bit underwhelmed thus far, and I'm looking for some help on a few things.

First of all, let me just say that I find the 3D to be absolutely fantastic. I saw 3D as just a bonus when buying this TV at the $599 price, it wasn't a selling point at all and I didn't envision myself using it much, but it looks really great. 2D to 3D conversion is even really solid.

My issue has been picture quality. I purchased the Disney WOW Calibration disk and went through it several times, achieving pretty great results for Blu-Ray playback, despite not being able to define a true white or black (the set doesn't seem to allow any clipping at all?). My cable box is another story. I find that no matter how I adjust the picture, it seems a bit soft. I've tried duplicating my Blu-Ray setting, going with presets, adjusting presets, etc, and achieved similar results every time. Additionally, I find, depending on the channel I'm watching, I can't get the color right at all. It's either too green, or too red. This is particularly noticeable in skin tones. With the exception of bright commercials and animation, everything seems dull and muted. Am I crazy here? I can't imagine owning a TV where I have to adjust color and tint for every single channel. I've been comparing the picture to our upstairs living room TV (Samsung UN46C5000QF, nothing spectacular) and the difference is night and day, the Samsung looks significantly better.

I've also been having a significant amount of trouble with audio. I have the TV connected to a Sony HT-SS370 HTiB. The system does not handle 3D passthrough, so I've got an alternative method for 3D Blu-Ray (extra HDMI straight to the TV, Optical out of PS3 into the receiver). No issues there.

I noticed an audio delay with my cable box. Never had an issue before this TV. After a bit of troubleshooting, I shut off Viera Link (which was creating an extra step to get the correct audio every time I turned the TV on) and that seemed to take care of the delay. Now the receiver seems to be confused as to how to output the audio from the box. On my old TV, it was typically Dolby Digital. Now I'm getting a mix, mostly LPCM. Occasionally, it will change back to Dolby if I tinker with the Viera Link settings, but nothing in particular seems to trigger it. Currently, I have Viera Link off and it's outputting LPCM, and I don't appear to be getting anything out of my rear speakers. Earlier, I somehow got it to turn back to Dolby Digital. Once I shut everything off and turned it back on, it was back to PCM. What could I be doing wrong here? I also notice a slight delay when the receiver is outputting PCM rather than Dolby. I made no changes to my cable box. Audio output is set to auto in the "hidden" menu. In the user menu, I've tried both "TV Speakers", "Stereo", and "Advanced", to no avail. The only difference I've noticed is that "TV Speakers" tends to be louder, and carry slightly less delay.

Finally, I can't seem to get ARC to work. Both my receiver and the TV support it. I'm using an Amazon Basics High Speed HDMI 1.4 cable and getting nothing. Viera Connect content will only play out of the TV's internal speakers. With Viera Link on, the receiver automatically tunes itself to "TV", as though it's expecting a optical connection, but I thought the whole point of ARC was to send the audio back and forth via the HDMI port? The receiver's TV Optical jack is in use by my PS3 for 3D Blu-Ray.

I really want to love this TV, partially because it was such a great price, partially because it's got some really fantastic features, but thus far, it seems to have been more trouble than it's worth. I know this is a whole lot of problems to throw out there, but hopefully someone can help. I can provide additional details for my setup if need be.
post #253 of 284
I bought the 55 et5 and overall I like the set. It should be noted that this is my first flat panel (coming from a ten year old JVC 27 inch crt) so anything would likely impress me. However, I am disappointed that the tv lacks the fine controls of the european models to adjust the picture and sound quality. Mainly, I would like to have the graphic equalizer because the sound quality to my ear is fair at best. I realize this is common to thin led sets, but the sound is very thin. I have 5.1 for movies but even for dialogue on the news is isn't as full as I'd like. Anyone know a hack or trick to get the equalizer?
post #254 of 284
I have a 42ET5 inbound, which is scheduled to be delivered on Wednesday.

The set will be in an office, fed directly by a DirecTV box and a BD player.

Problem is, I can't use the speakers in the set, and there is no A/V Receiver.

Thus the question:

How would you connect wireless headphones for TV sound, and which headphones would you select?

Thanks!

The Gunny
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post #256 of 284
The TV has speakers, but I need a wireless headset. Can't do the speakers in an office......frown.gif

The Gunny
post #257 of 284
The European ET5 apparently has some lovely Advanced Controls. Is there any way to enable these on the U.S. model (and why were they excluded to begin with)?
post #258 of 284
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Originally Posted by IWantMyHDTV! View Post

Wow, so MANY decisions to make. I saw a Panasonic TC-L47E50 (120Hz) in a store and it was amazing. I read a review of the TC-L37E50, and it was equal to the 47" model, as expected. I then went to Panasonic's site, and the 120Hz TC-L37E50 is NOT available, or possible ever even made. Bummer! I wanted to get a real 120Hz unit.
So, I getting down to the wire on a 37" unit that will fit into my 35.5" wide entertainment center. The Panasonic TC-L37E5 (60Hz), the Vizio M370L (60Hz), or maybe a Samsung UN37EH5000F ("Clear Motion" 120, but probably actual 60Hz...site is not specific).
I am still trying to find places that I can see the three on display, or even their larger brothers, but with the same panels. The Panasonics seem to have good reviews, still digging on the others.
Gregg Hill
I just bought the 37e5 for my poor old mum and it is really nicely built (Mexico) and has a wonderful picture. However I am furious that Panasonic has withheld YouTube support on this so-called smart TV - the app selection is pathetic, considering the demo model 42e50 has it and the salesman said it was the same. I knew better than him but was only expecting YouTube not Web browser of course. This was the main reason I bought it for her. A cheap BD player can do it but then I would've bought a cheap TV! Why not this TV?!
Edited by AVfile - 9/22/12 at 11:01pm
post #259 of 284
I would like to know if US 37E5 models have YouTube or we are getting the shaft from Panasonic Canada, anyone?!?!

I know the E50 have it here so we are not that uncivilized!
post #260 of 284
IF this helps anyone reading this thread quickly, this is the Panasonic generated chart as I grabbed directly from the Amazon site. It appears at the end of each of the main monitors.

NOTE: THE ET5 is the only PASSIVE 3D MODEL model currently. I don't know if this was mentioned in this thread already. I'm trying my best to wade through it.

BY THE WAY, Amazon *on and off* borks out the search mechanism on Panasonic. No clue WHAT'S going on with those search mooks over there. Too much 3am programming going on hopped on diet coke. Some days I CAN'T EVEN FIND PANASONIC LED-LCD (perhaps because they reverse the order from most other manufacturers: LED and LCD?) as click on options from the main page. WOW! If this happens just search for "Panasonic IPS" and you'll be there. Good grief though!!!!

PanasonicLEDIPSLineup-1.png
post #261 of 284
Is the 47WT50 much better than the 47DT50?

I am about to take the plunge on the 47WT50, but would like to know how much do they differ performance wise and value wise...

It appears that the DT50 lacks the Dual Core Video Processor found in the flagship WT50 model, but I am not sure what that chip does.
post #262 of 284
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Is the 47WT50 much better than the 47DT50?
I am about to take the plunge on the 47WT50, but would like to know how much do they differ performance wise and value wise...
It appears that the DT50 lacks the Dual Core Video Processor found in the flagship WT50 model, but I am not sure what that chip does.

I have to warn about all of this.

All the reviews aside, in case you haven't yet: please go and take a look at one of the panas in a store. Look at the side viewing angles. I was *horrified* at how bad it truly is. While IPS is really a sound technology (at least on paper), I'd have to wonder if Panasonic truly botched this. I noticed that there was one reviewer who really said that the picture started losing out at 45°!!!!! I got concerned by that and even started an entire thread based upon it. Then I saw one in person and he was right. That yields a total viewing angle of 90° NOT 178°!!!!!!

Frightening. I pointed out that even the lowest end Visio and LG's looked better. All 3 of those (Visio, LG, and Panasonic) are supposed to be (or most commonly are?) LG manufactured panels, so this is even MORE confusing. In the case of Panasonic, many of the IPS panels are made by Panasonic, but not all. However the advantage within Panasonic is that they don't switch around *within* a model number.

I would really *really* suggest looking at one first. I was very disappointed and have decided to look elsewhere.
post #263 of 284
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I have to warn about all of this.
All the reviews aside, in case you haven't yet: please go and take a look at one of the panas in a store. Look at the side viewing angles. I was *horrified* at how bad it truly is. While IPS is really a sound technology (at least on paper), I'd have to wonder if Panasonic truly botched this. I noticed that there was one reviewer who really said that the picture started losing out at 45°!!!!! I got concerned by that and even started an entire thread based upon it. Then I saw one in person and he was right. That yields a total viewing angle of 90° NOT 178°!!!!!!
Frightening. I pointed out that even the lowest end Visio and LG's looked better. All 3 of those (Visio, LG, and Panasonic) are supposed to be (or most commonly are?) LG manufactured panels, so this is even MORE confusing. In the case of Panasonic, many of the IPS panels are made by Panasonic, but not all. However the advantage within Panasonic is that they don't switch around *within* a model number.
I would really *really* suggest looking at one first. I was very disappointed and have decided to look elsewhere.

Thanks and I will take that into consideration, but given that I am mostly alone and I will be sitting on the couch directly in front of the TV, I don't think the side viewing angle matters that much to me.
Unfortunately I did not see a display model for either the WT50 or the DT50 in store today, the highest model on display is an ET5 or E50.

The distance between the TV stand to the viewing position on my couch is approximately 12 feet, but I do not think my TV stand is capable to hold a 55"+ TV.
post #264 of 284
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I have to warn about all of this.
All the reviews aside, in case you haven't yet: please go and take a look at one of the panas in a store. Look at the side viewing angles. I was *horrified* at how bad it truly is. While IPS is really a sound technology (at least on paper), I'd have to wonder if Panasonic truly botched this. I noticed that there was one reviewer who really said that the picture started losing out at 45°!!!!! I got concerned by that and even started an entire thread based upon it. Then I saw one in person and he was right. That yields a total viewing angle of 90° NOT 178°!!!!!!
Frightening. I pointed out that even the lowest end Visio and LG's looked better. All 3 of those (Visio, LG, and Panasonic) are supposed to be (or most commonly are?) LG manufactured panels, so this is even MORE confusing. In the case of Panasonic, many of the IPS panels are made by Panasonic, but not all. However the advantage within Panasonic is that they don't switch around *within* a model number.
I would really *really* suggest looking at one first. I was very disappointed and have decided to look elsewhere.

I just ordered a 47WT50...
Bestbuy didn't have it on display, but they had a 55WT50 on display in the Magnolia section, I guess they consider this high-end then.
I looked at the 55 from the side, and the only thing I can notice is the picture is darker in general compared to other sets.
The salesperson said this is probably just a setting issue but could not locate the remote control to change it.

When I ordered it, they were of course trying to upsell the installation and calibration...
The charge for calibration is $250...That is enough to turn me off, the salesperson said it would be very complicated for the consumer to calibrate the isf advanced settings, I'll take my chances.
Most of the reviews suggest that image quality is good right out of the box.
post #265 of 284
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I just ordered a 47WT50...
Bestbuy didn't have it on display, but they had a 55WT50 on display in the Magnolia section, I guess they consider this high-end then.
I looked at the 55 from the side,

How far?

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and the only thing I can notice is the picture is darker in general compared to other sets.
The salesperson said this is probably just a setting issue but could not locate the remote control to change it.
When I ordered it, they were of course trying to upsell the installation and calibration...
The charge for calibration is $250...That is enough to turn me off, the salesperson said it would be very complicated for the consumer to calibrate the isf advanced settings, I'll take my chances.
Most of the reviews suggest that image quality is good right out of the box.

The WT and DT are using somethng they are calling "Clear Panel Pro". NO idea what that means. Seems to me I remember reading somewhere that the top two (WT/DT) are alpha-IPS (or "IPS Alpha")....but please don't quote me on it--->this may be from their European site. But you are also locked to the Active 3D hooey on the WT and DT, which to me is an immediate disqualifier.
post #266 of 284
I was wondering if anyone is using any of these tv's as a computer monitor. What is the best connection. The graphics card I would be using would have either DVI or display port available. I have been reading conflicting information. Some people say to hook it to the rgb connection for the best picture, others I have read say that DVI to HDMI would be my best bet. I am not sure about the whole display port thing but it sounds like I would need a special adapter to run Display port to HDMI correctly.

I was looking at the 32E5

thanks,
post #267 of 284
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Originally Posted by tgm1024 View Post

I have to warn about all of this.
All the reviews aside, in case you haven't yet: please go and take a look at one of the panas in a store. Look at the side viewing angles. I was *horrified* at how bad it truly is.

I looked at the 55 from the side, and the only thing I can notice is the picture is darker in general compared to other sets.
The salesperson said this is probably just a setting issue but could not locate the remote control to change it.

What setting I wonder could possibly alter the viewing angle???
post #268 of 284
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What setting I wonder could possibly alter the viewing angle???

None, that's why he couldn't find the remote tongue.gif

I performed a calibration on a friend's Sony and the viewing angle didn't seem too bad. The black level got brighter, not darker, as the angle increased. It looked fantastic after calibration when viewed relatively straight on, by the way. I would not want to go more than 30 degrees off center but the family members (average people) did not notice and some of them sit past 45 degrees.

If you're that keen on oblique viewing angles then I would recommend a plasma.
post #269 of 284
I got the 55et5B last week and have been getting used to it.

Few issues that I am having though are the same as an earlier poster(LordAlfred))..

I am suffering form some obvious light bleed in the corners, particularly the bottom right, and also the issue with faint vertical bands showing up when there is a horizontal camera pan over either a light background or a solid colour.
This is most noticeable in game mode, but still can be detected, although ever so slightly, in other modes.

As I use this as my main pc monitor the need for a "game mode" without issues is important for me, as the other modes induce lag.

Does this sound like a defective set and should I try to have it swapped for another to see if that solves it?

I really love the set apart from these issues and am hoping that if I get it replaced that the next one will be better?
A bit reluctant though if I end up getting one that is worse.

This is my first edge lit IPS panel so wondering if I am just being overly fussy here or do I actually have an issue that is worth trying to solve?

Thanks,

Mark.
post #270 of 284
Looks like the Panasonic TC-L55ET5 is going on sale for $899 at Best Buy on Black Friday.

My SXRD is getting greener by the day so it looks like I am going to give this set another shot. I can live with a few imperfections for this price and wait for 4K to become affordable.
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