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Leaving work, heading back. Yahhh
post #152 of 248
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post #153 of 248
Have fun guys, looking forward to the reports from attendees.
post #154 of 248
Post your results/opinions, ok?
post #155 of 248
My thanks to Nick for his hospitality. I enjoyed it. The Submersive led the pack.
post #156 of 248
Nick....Thank you for a great time.
It was a pleasure meeting everyone.

RayJr
post #157 of 248
+1, thanks Nick. Nice looking place you have and I really enjoyed finally hearing the Submersive HP...what an incredible sub.
post #158 of 248
what all was the final audition lineup today?
post #159 of 248
Thanx to Nick for the wonderful hospitality. Had a great time! Best part was meeting other local audio enthusiasts (such a nice group of people). And then there were the subs: the two that stood out to me were the Seaton and Rythmik. The latter had the edge on articulation (by a small margin) while the former had more output (by a wide margin).
post #160 of 248
I was also VERY impressed with Ducs dual LMS 5400s, but the grilled bacon-wrapped hot dogs were definitely the biggest hit .
post #161 of 248
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I was also VERY impressed with Ducs dual LMS 5400s, but the grilled bacon-wrapped hot dogs were definitely the biggest hit .

Planning on building one or two
post #162 of 248
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Thank you for coming, I had a great time. It was a pleasure to meet fellow avsers. It was fun and a learning experience to hear others talk. I was most impress by the rythmik for its sound quality and it's size, seaton has the most output of the night, then of course nothing beats dual lms. I thought the ceiling fans was going to fall off when the dual lms was playing. Polk dsw4000 was straight out shameful. Revel was good for music but was overmatch but others. Unfortunately hsu vtf15 didn't make it. So that kind of wrap it up for me.
post #163 of 248
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Oh, the stupid tv hdmi works now after I unplug it for 3 minutes, duh >:, why didn't I think of that. I guess it was scared of all the sub.
post #164 of 248
Pleasure meeting everyone.

It was nice to finally get a chance to check out the Submersive. I was very impressed with it.
post #165 of 248
Thanks Nick for hosting! I had a wonderful time talking shop with you guys Submersive was amazing like everyone said ... would have been interesting to hear it after optimal placement and set up. looking forward to seeing everyone again.
post #166 of 248
Carl wasn't there...who else has the submersive??
post #167 of 248
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Thank you for coming, I had a great time. It was a pleasure to meet fellow avsers. It was fun and a learning experience to hear others talk. I was most impress by the rythmik for its sound quality and it's size, seaton has the most output of the night, then of course nothing beats dual lms. I thought the ceiling fans was going to fall off when the dual lms was playing. Polk dsw4000 was straight out shameful. Revel was good for music but was overmatch but others. Unfortunately hsu vtf15 didn't make it. So that kind of wrap it up for me.

May I ask which Rythmic? Was there a seal F12? Thanks.
post #168 of 248
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Carl wasn't there...who else has the submersive??

Another member, NB67 brought his HP. Come to find out aside from being a super cool guy, he lives within walking distance from me. I smell an LMS vs. Submersive showdown.

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May I ask which Rythmic? Was there a seal F12? Thanks.

holt7153 brought his Rythmik E15. Another impressive sub, especially considering its relatively small size.
post #169 of 248
Thanks to Nick for letting us use his residence and to the folks for brining their subs to let us play with. Really great when you have all the different subs to hear perform (albeit all sealed subs) and talk to guys with oodles of knowledge on audio/video.
Eric, I guess you are correct. The show down is imminent but my one Subm vs your 4 LMS's will not be a fair fight. I guess I'll have level the playing field.
post #170 of 248
What demo material was used? Same on each audition or just more of a relaxed gathering?
post #171 of 248
Definitely more of relaxed hangout. I don't even think I saw an SPL meter being used the whole day. And honestly that's what impressed me about the Submersive. I mean we just threw the sub near the front left corner, plugged in the XLR/RCA cable, and let it rip. For having pretty much no setup at all the thing still sounded pretty damn good!

We mainly used the new Underworld BD and the S.S. demo disc.
post #172 of 248
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Definitely more of relaxed hangout. I don't even think I saw an SPL meter being used the whole day. And honestly that's what impressed me about the Submersive. I mean we just threw the sub near the front left corner, plugged in the XLR/RCA cable, and let it rip. For having pretty much no setup at all the thing still sounded pretty damn good!

We mainly used the new Underworld BD and the S.S. demo disc.

Only thing I ever use for bass now is Art of Flight
post #173 of 248
I'm curious to hear some comparisons between the winner of previous GTGs, the Submersive, and the oft-touted ultimate DIY subwoofer, the LMS 5400.
post #174 of 248
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^
honestly, can't loose either way if you can afford them.
post #175 of 248
So I see you guys liked the Steve (holts)'s sub. They sounded pretty damn good when I heard em and looked pretty good too
post #176 of 248
Thank you Nick for opening up your beautiful house to all of us and the delicious "well-done" hot dogs. It was absolutely wonderful getting to finally meet everyone in person. It's one thing to discuss AV on a forum; it's a whole other world getting to experience it with a bunch of great people first hand. I feel bad not helping to clean up. We sure made a mess out of your house.

Like others have mentioned, the Submersive was really impressive. I agree with Eric in it's ability to pretty much plug and play and, at the same time, produce immense levels of clean bass.

The dual LMS powered by a LG clone still produced the most tactile feel as can be expected. In the WotW scene from the demo disc when the ground was rupturing, the tactile feel that the dual LMS provided felt real as if the ground beneath the couch we sat on was about to crumble. As with any DIY, the LMS can benefit greatly from some EQ and tweaking. I feel the LMS still has the most potential out of any sub I've heard and definitely recommended for those who are more hands on. *I have a pair of LMS so I may be biased.*

The Rythmik E15 is the other sub that really impressed. For music, I'd still recommend a Rythmik. The output for its size is spectacular, especially in such a large open room. Switching to a movie; however, was just a bit too much for the single 15" driver in that room. As expected, the bass from this sub was extremely clean.

Conclusion (my recommendation):
For music: Rythmik
For casual room*: Submersive
For dedicated HT**: LMS 5400

*Casual meaning a room most people would have: no acoustic panels, open, etc. **Dedicated HT meaning a controlled room: acoustic panels, enclosed, etc.
post #177 of 248
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So I see you guys liked the Steve (holts)'s sub. They sounded pretty damn good when I heard em and looked pretty good too

For the price of a Submersive you can get two E15 subs, though I don't know they'll have as much output. One advantage of having those two 15" drivers in separate cabinets is that you can spread them apart in the room in order to minimize seat-to-seat variance and smoothen out the frequency response.
post #178 of 248
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For the price of a Submersive you can get two E15 subs, though I don't know they'll have as much output. One advantage of having those two 15" drivers in separate cabinets is that you can spread them apart in the room in order to minimize seat-to-seat variance and smoothen out the frequency response.

I like the more consistent fr: D.

Was considering doing quad lms5400s for each corner but threads like this make me change my mind again. I do want "musical" performance!
post #179 of 248
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Was considering doing quad lms5400s for each corner

Isn't that like $4k worth of drivers (not to mention the cost of cabinets and amps) for each corner? If you ever put over $20k worth of subwoofage in your house, I know where the next local meet will be.
post #180 of 248
Woohoo!! Party at Kevin's!!!
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