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I recently purchased a Samsung 55'' 3D TV and a Samsung 6700 Blu Ray player (2 HDMI outputs) which I plan to connect HDMI cable with ethernet. However, I have a previous generation receiver, Yamaha RX-V1800. I have heard that there can be an issue connecting HDMI cable with ethernet to an older receiver. Does anyone if this is true? Or are Ferrite Cores an issue? Thanks in advance.
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Originally Posted by jkp7121 View Post

I recently purchased a Samsung 55'' 3D TV and a Samsung 6700 Blu Ray player (2 HDMI outputs) which I plan to connect HDMI cable with ethernet. However, I have a previous generation receiver, Yamaha RX-V1800. I have heard that there can be an issue connecting HDMI cable with ethernet to an older receiver. Does anyone if this is true? Or are Ferrite Cores an issue? Thanks in advance.

Well the good news is "with ethernet" won't cause any problem. The bad news is that there aren't any components that support HDMI with Ethernet at this time.

As to your other questions, how long is the cable?
post #3 of 12
Hmmm, I have Certified High Speed HDMI cables with ethernet (even though I have no use for ethernet nor any devices that support it) and they work just fine. Ethernet use over HDMI is a specification, not a commercial reality, as far as I know.
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I have heard that there can be an issue connecting HDMI cable with ethernet to an older receiver. Does anyone if this is true?

Not an issue.
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Are Ferrite Cores an issue? Thanks in advance.

They won't improve your HDMI signal and may even degrade it a bit. Not an issue if you aren't getting sparkles or worse.
post #5 of 12
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15' - I need to run a new cable in-wall from the TV to Blu-Ray. That's why I bought the Samsung Blu Ray with two outputs so I can watch 3D and still have the lossless sound.

While there I was going to replace a 5 year Monster HDMI with a High Speed HDMI with Ethernet. Then I was going to replace the HDMI cables from the receiver to DVR and Blu Ray with 4-6' High Speed cables.
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Originally Posted by jkp7121 View Post

15' - I need to run a new cable in-wall from the TV to Blu-Ray. That's why I bought the Samsung Blu Ray with two outputs so I can watch 3D and still have the lossless sound.

While there I was going to replace a 5 year Monster HDMI with a High Speed HDMI with Ethernet. Then I was going to replace the HDMI cables from the receiver to DVR and Blu Ray with 4-6' High Speed cables.

15' - depending upon the quality of the original cables you may not need to replace them. Test them first - if you see sparkles or lines or don't get an image, then you need to replace. Otherwise, it's just adding more available cable bandwidth that you *may* need in the future. The pinouts for the standard speed cables and the high speed cables are exactly the same.

At this point, Ethernet or non-Ethernet doesn't matter. High speed is a really good idea. Testing every cable before installing in-wall is an absolute must. Too many people cover-up the cables with drywall and then find out they have a defective cable. Conduit is an even better choice because you can pull the cable after the drywall is installed.
post #7 of 12
I just installed (in wall) a new HDMI cable w/ethernet (did it w/o checking the cable first). Now I see that it causes problems when connected to my AVR (Yamaha VX-V867). i.e. even the other HDMI out doesn't work when this cable is plugged in.

Any idea? (Is there a converter to get it back to normal HDMI)?
post #8 of 12
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Originally Posted by cgott42 View Post

I just installed (in wall) a new HDMI cable w/ethernet (did it w/o checking the cable first). Now I see that it causes problems when connected to my AVR (Yamaha VX-V867). i.e. even the other HDMI out doesn't work when this cable is plugged in.

Any idea? (Is there a converter to get it back to normal HDMI)?

Same cable. All the HDMI with Ethernet did was use previously unused lines in the cable. The cables that advertise that they are HDMI with Ethernet just mean they guarantee that those lines are available for use. So, there is no "normal HDMI".

What type of HDMI cable did you use (standard or high speed)? Did you try a different out-of-wall cable instead of the in-wall cable to see if everything works with a different cable? Did you try 1080i or 720p to see if those lower-speed resolutions work? It is possible that you have a damaged cable and this has nothing to do with "HDMI with Ethernet".
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Originally Posted by alk3997 View Post

What type of HDMI cable did you use (standard or high speed)? Did you try a different out-of-wall cable instead of the in-wall cable to see if everything works with a different cable? Did you try 1080i or 720p to see if those lower-speed resolutions work? It is possible that you have a damaged cable and this has nothing to do with "HDMI with Ethernet".

I tried it with other cables and it works fine. Same problem at lower res.
I'm not sure if it's high speed - it doesn't say in the product info if it is
post #10 of 12
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I tried it with other cables and it works fine. Same problem at lower res.
I'm not sure if it's high speed - it doesn't say in the product info if it is

Doesn't matter. If the cable is standard speed then 1080i and 720p should work without any problems.

Basically I think you have a damaged cable. Assuming it worked before you put it in-wall, then it must have been manufactured correctly.

Not unusual for sheetrockers to damage cables.
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thx
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I had a problem with a dual HDMI Out Yamaha AVR a while back. With some display device combinations you had to use the HDMI A - HDMI B selector and ensure you weren't ever in HDMI A + B mode.

Joe
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