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post #211 of 490
I see that Best Buy will have the Roku player for $40 on Black Friday and that it has a Plex Channel. I have a HTPC with MY Movies installed and was wondering if I installed Plex would there be a conflict? I stream my content using my laptop and WMC but for $40, I would like to get a stationary device. Any drawbacks with both programs on the same PC?
post #212 of 490
It looks like PLEX uses Adobe Flash Player? That is too bad because some newer and current android devices don't support flash since Adobe abandoned android.
post #213 of 490
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Originally Posted by Sammy2 View Post

It looks like PLEX uses Adobe Flash Player? That is too bad because some newer and current android devices don't support flash since Adobe abandoned android.

Plex has its own android app. Plus I think Plex uses HTTP live streaming, not flash although I could be wrong.
post #214 of 490
Does the PLEX android app work on android based streamers?

I loaded the PLEX server from the link above, started a movie in my library and right clicked on the screen. Up popped the typical flash player settings menu.
post #215 of 490
I use for iPhone 4S. I ditched my android droid x, it was too buggy.
post #216 of 490
Phone's aren't the only things to run on android os. Many SoC's do too.
post #217 of 490
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Originally Posted by Sammy2 View Post

Phone's aren't the only things to run on android os. Many SoC's do too.

In thinking of grabbing a tablet and can't decide.

I'm not scared of android and not sure apple is worth extra $100.
post #218 of 490
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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

I use for iPhone 4S. I ditched my android droid x, it was too buggy.

Should have bought the 4 since the 4s was never worth the extra 100 biggrin.gif Make your next Android device a Nexus and you won't be dealing with bugginess
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Originally Posted by Sammy2 View Post

Does the PLEX android app work on android based streamers?
I loaded the PLEX server from the link above, started a movie in my library and right clicked on the screen. Up popped the typical flash player settings menu.

I'm not sure what you're saying ? You've just tested the new Plex Web streaming service (new for those of us w/o plexpass) and it worked without flash enabled
post #219 of 490
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Well, the Plex team had something else up their sleeves, and it's kind of amazing: http://elan.plexapp.com/2012/11/19/announcing-the-new-plexpass-feature/. The Plex Media Server can now make offline, mobile versions of your content and push them to your mobile devices.

What's really interesting is it works with channels too. I wonder if that means it will work with Netflix. Isn't Netflix content supposed to be encrypted?
post #220 of 490
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Originally Posted by lockdown571 View Post

Well, the Plex team had something else up their sleeves, and it's kind of amazing: http://elan.plexapp.com/2012/11/19/announcing-the-new-plexpass-feature/. The Plex Media Server can now make offline, mobile versions of your content and push them to your mobile devices.
What's really interesting is it works with channels too. I wonder if that means it will work with Netflix. Isn't Netflix content supposed to be encrypted?

That's bad ass!
post #221 of 490
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Originally Posted by pelenor View Post

I see that Best Buy will have the Roku player for $40 on Black Friday and that it has a Plex Channel. I have a HTPC with MY Movies installed and was wondering if I installed Plex would there be a conflict? I stream my content using my laptop and WMC but for $40, I would like to get a stationary device. Any drawbacks with both programs on the same PC?

Sorry missed your post. There won't be any conflicts. I've used Plex alongside basically every major frontend including my movies. Plex stores all its metadata in a completely separate location.

The only bummer is there's no way to synchronize the watched status between the two programs.
post #222 of 490
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Originally Posted by Sammy2 View Post

It looks like PLEX uses Adobe Flash Player? That is too bad because some newer and current android devices don't support flash since Adobe abandoned android.

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Originally Posted by Sammy2 View Post

Does the PLEX android app work on android based streamers?
I loaded the PLEX server from the link above, started a movie in my library and right clicked on the screen. Up popped the typical flash player settings menu.

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Originally Posted by Dark_Slayer View Post

I'm not sure what you're saying ? You've just tested the new Plex Web streaming service (new for those of us w/o plexpass) and it worked without flash enabled

What I am saying is that the plex web player uses flash and some android devices that are not phones (media streamers with web browsers) use the android OS and would not be able to play back from Plex. IDK if the android app can be installed on such devices either.
post #223 of 490
actually, I don't think you need Flash Player for the Android. You need Flash Player on the machine with your Plex Server, which will then transcode the video to something Plex android can play. You need to Silverlight on the machine too for the stuff that uses it.

Apparently you can still download the Flash Player APK from Adobe, but it's on their site, somewhere. I wasn't able to find it. I did find a thread on XDA with it though: XDA Developers link
post #224 of 490
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Originally Posted by Sammy2 View Post

What I am saying is that the plex web player uses flash and some android devices that are not phones (media streamers with web browsers) use the android OS and would not be able to play back from Plex. IDK if the android app can be installed on such devices either.
Gotcha
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Originally Posted by lovekeiiy View Post

actually, I don't think you need Flash Player for the Android.
We are specifically talking about a new Plex feature where you can view a video stream in a web browser
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Originally Posted by pelenor View Post

I have a HTPC with MY Movies installed and was wondering if I installed Plex would there be a conflict? I stream my content using my laptop and WMC but for $40, I would like to get a stationary device. Any drawbacks with both programs on the same PC?
No conflicts, but for now Plex will only be able to stream your iso files locally. I don't believe there is any support for iso transcoding (if you wanted to view those movies on a phone/tablet)
I say this because I thought the mymovies auto-rip feature converts all your discs to iso
For home use, I believe the roku can handle iso files so you're good there. Plex won't transcode what the clients can receive direct-stream
post #225 of 490
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It is highly unlikely the Roku plays ISOs.
post #226 of 490
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Originally Posted by Dark_Slayer View Post

We are specifically talking about a new Plex feature where you can view a video stream in a web browser
Apparently I missed where he was more clear. In this situation, it will depend if one is able to side load apps or have access to Google Play; it's possible, not always, to install apps on new devices from your app history; Google groups all devices together. I've done this on new devices that are region locked, without having to spoof Google Play.

Some devices may not have Google Play or be able to side load. In those cases, it's going to depend on what the manufacturer and designers decided to install and maintain. The PS3 has a web brower and Flash Player 10, I think. It could be 9. It just hasn't been updated in three years.

If you can side load, it would be best to try and install the Plex app over flash player because you don't know how optimized the browser will work with Flash Player.
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Originally Posted by Dark_Slayer View Post

...for now Plex will only be able to stream your iso files locally. I don't believe there is any support for iso transcoding... For home use, I believe the roku can handle iso files so you're good there. Plex won't transcode what the clients can receive direct-stream

This is not quite right. I agree, I don't think the Roku Player can play ISOs. It was rather limited what it can and can't play directly. I think they updated it to play MKV.

Also, ISO hasn't been fully supported in Plex since the change to 9.5 and using the server. The desktop agent may have a player that can hnadle ISO for direct play so the server is just feeding a file.

In addition, the web based player that is used within a browser doesn't support all the video formats yet. I've ran into problems with M2TS files. Plex is working on the most popular formss firsts, then will add more later. Thus, ISO support will come in the future. Of course, Plex, as far as I knew, didn't support all the menus on ISOs anyway, thus it may be better to use MakeMKV which just rips the DVD/BR to an MKV container and maintaining audio and video quality.
post #227 of 490
Yeah, I'm not an expert on the roku, but I'm not sure how it wasn't clear before

Plex can serve ISO files locally, cannot trans code for remote stream

Also fwiw http://www.lehsys.com/2012/06/roku-with-plex-playing-isos-very-cool/
post #228 of 490
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That link is not working for me.
post #229 of 490
The link worked just a short while ago. The guy claims his ROKU is playing ISO via PLEX, (as if it really is supported by ROKU?). Very surprising.
post #230 of 490
A little Goolagonging found this reply to the author of that linked article...... this clarifies things. ROKU does not support ISO, but can be played thru PLEX if no menus.

You're not mentioning in your posts here that you strip the menus when you rip to ISO, which may not be the case for others who have large libraries of ISOs. For those who've ripped their DVDs with menus, playback with Plex is not feasible.
post #231 of 490
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Originally Posted by DanPackMan View Post

A little Goolagonging found this reply to the author of that linked article...... this clarifies things. ROKU does not support ISO, but can be played thru PLEX if no menus.
You're not mentioning in your posts here that you strip the menus when you rip to ISO, which may not be the case for others who have large libraries of ISOs. For those who've ripped their DVDs with menus, playback with Plex is not feasible.

That's interesting . . .

Thanks for the additional research. This sounds like Plex can transcode files in an iso container if the menus have been stripped? Still not a solution for MyMovies users or anyone just dumping an entire 1:1 iso
post #232 of 490
I recently installed the "New" PMS on my WHS 2011 box. When I installed the new web version I did not uninstall my previsou version. I just reinstalled over it. Since do so I have not been able to access the Media Manager portion of the application on my WHS. When the application is running I click "Media Manager" and up pops a web page but all that appears is a small home icon in the uppper left corner and a spinning icon. Not sure what has happened.

A couple of thoughts:
1. Do I need to buy plexpass in order to use the new PMS? If so how do i enter that info into PMS if I can not access the media manger?
2. I am no longer able to see the Plex Media Client application listed for download on the Plex Website. How am I supposed to access my movies from my Windows 7 mahcine? Us old client application?
3. The port forwarding on my FIOS router for Plex Media center no longer exists. No idea why it is gone. I have tried to manually enter the information for the Plex Recommened port, but can not figure out how to enter 192.168.1.7:34200 as a port. 192.168.1.7 is the the ip for my WHS.

Please help. I have posted this on the plex website but have not gotten a response.. hoping someone here can help me out.
post #233 of 490
I regularly stream .iso files to a Roku 2 XS from my PMS. No issues to mention, although there are no menus in the .iso.

Stepmback:

1.) You do not need plexpass. I do not have it and everything works fine for me. The media manager is now 100% web based. If it isn't loading in your browser, I would try clearing cache/cookies/history, closing the browser, and trying again. If that fails, try another browser. Works like a champ in IE, Firefox, and Safari for me. I personally prefer the old process to manage media, but this works easily enough and is more cross-platform I would imagine.
2.) The media client is still there, you just have to hunt for it a little. www.plexapp.com, Plex on your desktop link, and then Plex Media Center.
3.) You can still force plex to use port 32400, but by default it now picks a random port and uses the myplex service.

For what its worth, the myplex service is rather nice. Logging in to it I can not only manage all my media remotely from a web browser, but I can also now view it even download the source files.
post #234 of 490
I did the same thing as stepmback. Media manager is still there. It gives you the web browser look for choosing when library you want to find something to watch/listen. If you look on the upper right side of the My Library box, you'll see a " [wrench icon] manage" Click on that, and you get into managing your libraries.

The browser viewing is interesting. It doesn't support all the media formats yet; it doesn't play the video for M2TS files; it will play the audio though. No subtitle support yet, from that I can tell and read. So, don't get rid of the PC front end quite yet. Remember, it's barely out of beta.
post #235 of 490
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Originally Posted by lovekeiiy View Post

I did the same thing as stepmback. Media manager is still there. It gives you the web browser look for choosing when library you want to find something to watch/listen. If you look on the upper right side of the My Library box, you'll see a " [wrench icon] manage" Click on that, and you get into managing your libraries.
The browser viewing is interesting. It doesn't support all the media formats yet; it doesn't play the video for M2TS files; it will play the audio though. No subtitle support yet, from that I can tell and read. So, don't get rid of the PC front end quite yet. Remember, it's barely out of beta.

Fyi, I just tried an m2ts file and it worked fine.
post #236 of 490
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Originally Posted by Ruxl View Post

I regularly stream .iso files to a Roku 2 XS from my PMS. No issues to mention, although there are no menus in the .iso.
Stepmback:
1.) You do not need plexpass. I do not have it and everything works fine for me. The media manager is now 100% web based. If it isn't loading in your browser, I would try clearing cache/cookies/history, closing the browser, and trying again. If that fails, try another browser. Works like a champ in IE, Firefox, and Safari for me. I personally prefer the old process to manage media, but this works easily enough and is more cross-platform I would imagine.
2.) The media client is still there, you just have to hunt for it a little. www.plexapp.com, Plex on your desktop link, and then Plex Media Center.
3.) You can still force plex to use port 32400, but by default it now picks a random port and uses the myplex service.
For what its worth, the myplex service is rather nice. Logging in to it I can not only manage all my media remotely from a web browser, but I can also now view it even download the source files.

If I go into my router I see nothing at all for port forwarding for Plex. Like it was removed.

I will double check when I get home but I do not see a wrench. The page on my server in IE pops up but nothing appears. except for home button in upper left. I will clear out cache and cookies to see if that works.
post #237 of 490
As suggested use a different browser. I had similar issue with IE on WHS2011.
post #238 of 490
Does plex stream 1080p video to the roku xd, which says it only streams 720p? Or does it convert to playable file on the fly?
post #239 of 490
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Originally Posted by pelenor View Post

Does plex stream 1080p video to the roku xd, which says it only streams 720p? Or does it convert to playable file on the fly?

It will convert it on the fly. In the off chance that it tries to stream at a quality too high for your device or network to handle, you can always manually chose a lower quality at the device level.
post #240 of 490
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Originally Posted by stepmback View Post

If I go into my router I see nothing at all for port forwarding for Plex. Like it was removed.
I will double check when I get home but I do not see a wrench. The page on my server in IE pops up but nothing appears. except for home button in upper left. I will clear out cache and cookies to see if that works.

I guess clearing out the cache and cookies worked because I am good to go now. I did have to manually create the port forwarding rule for my router though. Not sure how much I like the new interface. One thing I have noticied is that the new iOS Plex application on my iPhone 5 locks up more. I have had several crashes. I think I just downloaded the new version of the app, so it may be the app and not my Plex server.
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