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post #661 of 801
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Originally Posted by hemmiandra View Post

That's quite a lot of fixes, but none that should have caused your issues. I would try to replicate the issue by streaming something from your PC with some media stored on that machine, not from the Synology. It's just a matter of trial and error now.

Fair enough, the larger point was that there seems to be/was a lot of hiccups flying around with it and who knows if everything addressed was included in those 30 lines, or is still yet to be, period, lol.

James
post #662 of 801
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Originally Posted by mastermaybe View Post

I'm using the computer to x-code. The CPU is connected via CAT ^ to my NAS until I transfer the content over to my new drives in my desktop in the next 24 hours.

James

I've never noticed much difference with the android client updates. I think they mainly just add features that I don't pay for anyway

However, looking around (from my posts above about not reading nfos) I found that my Plex Server had been sitting there with a way-behind-current-public release of the server. For some reason I thought it was automatic, but if you've installed recently that's probably no issue.

Also, you don't have to have the content hosted in the machine you deem the server. You can leave all the media on your nas, but the PMS transcoder will likely perform better if you run it from the more powerful i7. Just "add" your collections as UNC paths to your NAS. It's not at all uncommon for NAS users to actually run Plex off of some desktop or workstation while keeping the media stored in the NAS. You could even play around with WoL or WoW if you want to sleep your computer from time to time (not sure if Plex built in support for WoW, but I'm 99% sure their app already supports WoL)

Edit: not sure what I was dreaming, but I was 99% sure and 100% wrong
Edited by Dark_Slayer - 12/17/13 at 11:25am
post #663 of 801
Is this not what I'm currently doing: using the nas to store the drives and having PMS on the desktop x-code the media? confused.gif

James
post #664 of 801
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Originally Posted by mastermaybe View Post

^ thanks hemmi while I have PMS on my NAS I am talking about running it off my cpu. Matter of fact, I think I should just delete PMS off my nas anyway- I cannot get a solid single 1080 stream off it and it seems pointless/redundant anyway

Okay, I'm not reading carefully

I think I fully understand your setup now (PMS running on both NAS and desktop - which I agree to it being pointless on NAS at that point)

Just to prevent me from giving out any further bad advice, can you reiterate your playback steps

Genesis - HDDs in NAS
CAT run to Desktop (copy/paste transfer speed of a large file? I'm guessing 50 MB/s or more, while a full bluray is 4.5 MB/s)
Desktop back to router (assuming NAS is actually connected to router)
router to ????

Where are you trying to playback? If phone or tablet only, which make/model?
post #665 of 801
Everything above appears correct. Devices are an iphone 5S and an ipad Air.

I appreciate the help- I think everything should be transferred overnight (to the new drives I'm installing in the desktop) so I'll see what I have tomorrow, eliminating the NAS.

James
post #666 of 801
What is your router config for band 1/2 regarding 2.4/5, guest access, and b/g/n/ac
post #667 of 801
Hi all,

Hoping someone here can help me solve an issue i'm having with playback.

Basically, everything was fine until I enabled "adjust display refresh rate to match video". I got a fancy new VT60 plasma, and want to watch 24fps at 96Hz...24 fps works great for my PS3 blu-rays, but from Plex I get a "windowed" image with black bars on the side of the movie. Turning off this option returns everything to normal. I'm running windows 7with an ATI 5450. I believe this must be related more to the graphics card talking to Plex than anything else...Plex looks fine until the movie actually starts (at which time it is shrunk with black bars on the sides). any ideas?

Thanks!

UPDATE: for anyone who has this issue. You need to go into the ATI control center, then select 1080p 24hz standard, apply it to the display then set overscanning to 0 for that setting (My Digital Flat Panels\Scaling Options - set to overscan to 0%). I had it set to 0 overscan on my default desktop view of 1080p 60 hz, but that doesn't apply across all resolutions/refresh rates, you need to select and apply each one, and set it to 0. kind of a pain, but an easy fix.
Edited by skro - 12/22/13 at 11:52am
post #668 of 801
Glad you caught it...I had similar issues with my 5450, connecting to my projector alone, it read just fine, but after I integrated my Onkyo 818 into the mix, I had to do the same adjustments. (albeit for 720 native....)
It IS a pain...and if I hadn't stumbled across it in my settings, I would likely still be pulling my hair out.
post #669 of 801
Thread Starter 
Plex has a new website!

www.plex.tv

The also redid the Plex Web interface. Looks very nice!
post #670 of 801
So what is the verdict on chromecast. Anyone using it yet ?
post #671 of 801
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Originally Posted by lockdown571 View Post

Plex has a new website!

www.plex.tv

The also redid the Plex Web interface. Looks very nice!
Thanks for the pointer. I noticed that I could only pull up my queue on my.plexapp.com lately. It wouldn't show any other part of my server's library. I thought I messed something up somehow but everything is there on plex.tv.
post #672 of 801
Got a chromecast for Xmas. Works great with Plex. Had no problems.
post #673 of 801
I'm interested in the use cases for Chromecast. My feeling (from personal use) is that Plex lends itself better to local content (single media server with transcoding), whereas xmbc has a much broader selection of miscellaneous web apps. The channels I've used on Plex have been pretty underwhelming, and that's fine. But...given that, I don't really see what a chromecast would do for those of use who use plex for local media on a big tv? First off, it is wireless, so you can't really get away with high bit-rate video right? and unless it is plugged into an AVR, you'd get limited audio support. I love that PMS will transcode for later viewing on an iPad, etc., but I don't see why I'd want it transcoding to play at an acceptable wifi bitrate to a 60-65 inch tv. I'm not trying to be a nay-sayer, but I sense a lot of excitement about Plex on Chromecast, but I'm just not seeing what use cases are compelling to others.
Edited by skro - 12/26/13 at 7:29pm
post #674 of 801
I set my parents up with a Niveus Vail running Plex Home Theater as a Christmas gift. I stole a bunch of their DVDs at Thanksgiving and loaded them. The main reason though that I chose it was so that they could access my home movie and picture libraries on my Plex server. As I continue to scan pictures and encode movies they will be able to watch them.

I also added Hulu Desktop to it but haven't figured out a good way to integrate them. Any ideas for that or anything else that would work well for non techies? I never used XBMC or PHT as htpc front ends - I primarily use Plex on Google TV and Android.
post #675 of 801
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Originally Posted by skro View Post

I'm interested in the use cases for Chromecast. My feeling (from personal use) is that Plex lends itself better to local content (single media server with transcoding), whereas xmbc has a much broader selection of miscellaneous web apps.
That's a pretty accurate assessment. I look at the ChromeCast as a cheaper alternative to the Apple TV. It might also be a more desirable option for someone who uses Android phones vs an Apple iPhone. The ChromeCast (and Apple TV) are good for secondary TVs or for travel purposes. For a primary large TV, I would want something that can play full-bitrate content. Note that the ATV does support 1080p (the ChromeCast is currently limited - supposedly by Google - to 720p). Neither support 24Hz or lossless audio (the latter isn't a big deal to me).
post #676 of 801
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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

So what is the verdict on chromecast. Anyone using it yet ?

Should be getting one any day now. I'll be using it mainly with Android/Plex, but it seems that Chromecast is really going to take off in 2014 with lots of developer support, so it's going to be interesting to see how it grows. Google seem to understand how to release products at the right price point to capture all the attention, and the Chromecast seems to be one of those devices.

I wouldn't use it on the big TV though. This will be going on a 'dumb' bedroom TV to give it some Smart/streaming options.
post #677 of 801
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Originally Posted by tman247 View Post

I wouldn't use it on the big TV though. This will be going on a 'dumb' bedroom TV to give it some Smart/streaming options.

 

Likewise. The bitrate limitation as well as the missing DTS support makes it unusable for main media situations, but does the job for the secondary TV's.

post #678 of 801
I apologize in advance if this question's been answered before. I have been running the plex server on my 2011 mac mini, as well as using it as a player. My question: Is there a better option for me to get the best playback? maybe a roku 3 or oppo 103/ roku stick instead of using the mac mini as the video player? Any feedback would be great.

Thanks,
Brent
post #679 of 801
I run a 2012 Mac mini in the same configuration - PMS and local playback.Ive been very happy with the speed of the system and video and audio quality. The mini also switches flawlessly to 24p mode. I added an SSD to create a fusion drive with the existing 1TB hdd.
post #680 of 801
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Originally Posted by smokarz View Post

Thanks, I will take another look at the the MB thread.

I started out using MediaBrowser on my HTPC a few years ago. It was a lot more simpler to run compared to XBMC. However, at that time it was a little difficult trying to get lossless audio from MB and having issues playing BD so I switched to XBMC.

If MB also supports the Roku, I'll definitely give it another try.

I have a Roku, and use MediaBrowser on my HTPC. I was unaware that Roku had a MediaBrowser app... I will check this out tonight.

My Roku may not be sufficient to handle 1080p+Lossless Audio, regardless... but definitely worth a shot. 1080p+Lossless is what brought me to this thread, though... can anyone here speak to their ability to deliver lossless audio using PLEX? And if so, what device(s) are you using to do that? My PC is in my basement... but my best sound system is in my upstairs living room. Plex's website doesn't seem to provide a lot of technical specifications, but I already have a Roku, and Chromecast, and a PS3 in my Living Room (I don't know a whole lot about DLNA, but if Plex will allow to bitstream lossless audio to my PS3, I'll learn quickly!).
post #681 of 801
Lossless via PLEX is spotty, if nonexistent...(some of my library plays, and some do not.) I have not been able to see if there is a difference in bitrate, or what the true issue is. All of my rips are in lossless WMA. (no particular reason, other than when I started to build my library, all I had to use, or knew of... was WMP.)
I have been trying to workaround for a while on this. Right now, if I need to listen to lossless, I just stream via WMC, or WMP...
post #682 of 801

I have to say I'm loving Plex.

 

I had a good look at XBMC, and while it is clearly a powerful system, what makes Plex for me is the whole Client/Server architecture. Couple that with Plex Sync on my Tablet, and it means I always have the latest episodes of my unwatched shows transcoded and ready to go.

 

At the moment I'm only using it for Movies and TV. No Photos or music yet (although I am unlikely to ever use it for music since I have airplay all over the house).

 

I have an N54L microserver as my Server/NAS and HTPC feeding my main TV & Home theater. DTS and DD work great and sound excellent, and the Microserver easily keeps up with the largest rips.

 

I then have 2 mac laptops that also have the client, as well as my android tablet. All in all, a very seamless experience that works great and most importantly has 100% WAF (Wife Acceptance Factor)

post #683 of 801
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Originally Posted by cjuk00 View Post


I have an N54L microserver as my Server/NAS and HTPC feeding my main TV & Home theater.

Are you doing your PLEX transcoding on the N54L?
post #684 of 801
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Originally Posted by kevin g. View Post

Lossless via PLEX is spotty, if nonexistent...(some of my library plays, and some do not.) I have not been able to see if there is a difference in bitrate, or what the true issue is. All of my rips are in lossless WMA. (no particular reason, other than when I started to build my library, all I had to use, or knew of... was WMP.)
I have been trying to workaround for a while on this. Right now, if I need to listen to lossless, I just stream via WMC, or WMP...

Bummer.

I have a pretty small collection of MakeMKV rips, where I've taken the lossless audio codec. My "small" collection would immediately grow in size if there was a way to stream it over ethernet to a device in my Living Room... until that happens, there just isn't much of a reason for my collection to grow.

I do think it's odd because the bitrates that modern day modems, ethernet cables, and gigabit switches are capable of far exceeds the bitrate needed for 1080p+lossless audio... I'm not *the smartest guy* when it comes to this stuff, but the only thing I can figure is that the *end point* devices (Xbox, Echo, Roku, Chromecast, whatever) aren't capable of handling the throughput...
post #685 of 801
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Originally Posted by DanPackMan View Post

Are you doing your PLEX transcoding on the N54L?

I have the N40L running WHS 2011, (Smaller processor), and it handles transcoding better than Mediabrowser...(which maxxed out my CPU under load.)

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Originally Posted by psuKinger View Post

Bummer.

I have a pretty small collection of MakeMKV rips, where I've taken the lossless audio codec. My "small" collection would immediately grow in size if there was a way to stream it over ethernet to a device in my Living Room... until that happens, there just isn't much of a reason for my collection to grow.

I do think it's odd because the bitrates that modern day modems, ethernet cables, and gigabit switches are capable of far exceeds the bitrate needed for 1080p+lossless audio... I'm not *the smartest guy* when it comes to this stuff, but the only thing I can figure is that the *end point* devices (Xbox, Echo, Roku, Chromecast, whatever) aren't capable of handling the throughput...

Hmmm...we may be talking two different things here...I was talking about music rips in lossless...sorry for the confusion.
As mentioned above, Mediabrowser was maxxing out my cpu while transcoding to tablets, and clients, etc... PLEX handles my full .mkv DVD rips just fine with the 5.1 audio track. I do not have a Blu Ray burner at this time to rip BR, with full HD audio...I cannot attest to how PLEX handles that.
Edited by kevin g. - 1/6/14 at 12:09pm
post #686 of 801
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Originally Posted by i2k View Post

I run a 2012 Mac mini in the same configuration - PMS and local playback.Ive been very happy with the speed of the system and video and audio quality. The mini also switches flawlessly to 24p mode. I added an SSD to create a fusion drive with the existing 1TB hdd.

Thank you for the reply.
post #687 of 801
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Originally Posted by kevin g. View Post

I have the N40L running WHS 2011, (Smaller processor), and it handles transcoding better than Mediabrowser...(which maxxed out my CPU under load.)
Hmmm...we may be talking two different things here...I was talking about music rips in lossless...sorry for the confusion.
As mentioned above, Mediabrowser was maxxing out my cpu while transcoding to tablets, and clients, etc... PLEX handles my full .mkv DVD rips just fine with the 5..1 audio track.

Check back with us from time to time though. Our cpu utilization is improving with each release and will improve quite a bit soon with some new improvements we're working on.
post #688 of 801
I bought a PLEX pass. I think the "sync" feature is very cool. Very handy if you want to put locally a title on your ipad for travel away from wifi, or to use instead of wifi when transcoding is slow or wifi is slow.

Also- I was impressed to see I could use 3 cloud accounts (dropbox, google, and box) which got me like 20GB of cloud storage free with nothing but an email. Cool features indeed.
post #689 of 801
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Check back with us from time to time though. Our cpu utilization is improving with each release and will improve quite a bit soon with some new improvements we're working on.

As always, Luke, you have been super helpful...I would really like to give MB a fair shake, so, in that respect I have moved MB over to my other, more powerful server. I still have the folder structure issue to get nailed down...but first and foremost, I have a share issue that I cannot get resolved between both servers. They see each other and read/write to each other just fine, (under normal Windows shares), but Mediabrowser (on server 2) tells me that the file location (server 1) "access is denied"...
It isn't a MB thing either, I have Serviio add-in added to server 2, pointed to my library on server 1, and will not load the library, (I'm assuming, for the same reason.)
post #690 of 801
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Originally Posted by kevin g. View Post

I have the N40L running WHS 2011, (Smaller processor), and it handles transcoding better than Mediabrowser...(which maxxed out my CPU under load.) .

OK Thanks. I have an N40L running windows 7 and assumed it could not handle transcoding 1080p rips. I might give it a try w/Plex.
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