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post #751 of 801
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Originally Posted by balky View Post

What does your network look like?

I'm using a Teleco supplied Comtrend CT-5374 multi DSL CPE router running at 25 mbps wired directly to the Roku XS. Using Plex with 3.0 mbps and 720p selected
results in much buffering. Using Mezzmo with the same device and running rips of Blu Rays as 10+ GB MKVs,
there is smooth playback and no buffering. I'm figuring it might be a buffer setting for Plex. What is your buffer
set at?
post #752 of 801
I'm guessing internet access download speed from your provider is 25mbps...

The router actually has only fast Ethernet ports, which in an ideal situation should still be able to stream 1080p without buffering repeatedly...
Are you able to check and confirm that the Roku network interface port (if possible) is set at 100M full duplex? I don't own a Roku, but from experience buffering can sometimes be caused by half duplex setting...
post #753 of 801
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Originally Posted by Doug O View Post

My streaming computer is an Asus i5 laptop with 6 GB of RAM, so there is more than enough power for this setup. Just don't know what else to try before going back to what I had before (that worked fine with streaming 720p or 1080i/p content...

 

Is the laptop plugged in while streaming or running on batteries? Is the power scheme on balanced/high performance and not power saving?

 

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Originally Posted by balky View Post
The router actually has only fast Ethernet ports, which in an ideal situation should still be able to stream 1080p without buffering repeatedly...
Are you able to check and confirm that the Roku network interface port (if possible) is set at 100M full duplex? I don't own a Roku, but from experience buffering can sometimes be caused by half duplex setting...


1080p should be a breeze on 100Mbps, and with the settings on the Roku only set at 3Mbps duplex shouldn't even matter. Whenever my Roku buffers, it's usually because of insane CPU load on the server (15-20 users streaming at once).

 

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Originally Posted by Doug O View Post

I'm using a Teleco supplied Comtrend CT-5374 multi DSL CPE router running at 25 mbps wired directly to the Roku XS. Using Plex with 3.0 mbps and 720p selected
results in much buffering. Using Mezzmo with the same device and running rips of Blu Rays as 10+ GB MKVs,
there is smooth playback and no buffering. I'm figuring it might be a buffer setting for Plex. What is your buffer
set at?


I´m not familiar with Mezzmo - Does it just direct play or transcode as well?
 

post #754 of 801
Mezzmo review:

http://download.cnet.com/Mezzmo/3000-18515_4-10797917.html

I want to use Plex as it also has channels, much like XBMC.

Another problem I've encountered is the Roku rebooting when using Plex. Is that normal? It doesn't do it if Plex isn't running and is streaming using another server software.

There is only 1 user in the household (me) and there is nothing else going on at the time I'm using Plex, no downloading, no converting, nothing to interfere with the stream. I thought it might be the drives as they are externals, a WD 2TB Passport and a WD My Book 2 TB but they seem to be okay. I can access all data off them without incident.

Thanks for the help so far. We'll lick this problem yet...

I changed the power setting to Entertainment from Battery Saver. This shouldn't matter as the laptop isn't ever unplugged. But we'll see if it affects anything.

The buffer for transcodes is only 4 MB. Seems low though. It's not transcoding AVIs or MKVs that I can tell.

Have to check this out...

Okay, I played the last half of the movie I was watching without a hiccup! Can't believe it was all down to the power setting on the laptop!

Thanks for the help... biggrin.gif

PS ran into another problem with Plex shutting down but that was a laptop inactivity problem that was easily corrected. Streamed a high def rip without any buffering, so for now, we got the problem licked...
Edited by Doug O - 2/14/14 at 9:47am
post #755 of 801
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Originally Posted by bryansj View Post

I noticed this when I checked my server "Videos with subtitles cannot be played directly." My test file has (forced) subtitles.

I got it working by disabling DXVA2.
post #756 of 801
What's the easiest/cheapest way to use plex without keeping my laptop on. Not really interested in streaming my mkv as the are on my dedicated HT room.
post #757 of 801
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Originally Posted by hyperactiveme View Post

What's the easiest/cheapest way to use plex without keeping my laptop on. Not really interested in streaming my mkv as the are on my dedicated HT room.
I'm not really sure what you are asking here. Is the Plex server installed on your laptop? How do you play the mkv files in your dedicated HT room?
post #758 of 801
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Originally Posted by Ken.F View Post

I'm not really sure what you are asking here. Is the Plex server installed on your laptop? How do you play the mkv files in your dedicated HT room?
How would I run plex besides keeping my laptop on 24/7. We have 3 players. It's there an better way that isn't to expensive. Ive read about synology. It's that the way to go? I no longer have cable so I like to stream from plex channels.

I have a dedicated wdtv player that it's connected to an external drive that I use to watch mkv files. I'm not worried about streaming those.
post #759 of 801
Gave up,

I connected my pc to my onkyo 818 and ran plex, but no sound. Even though I was connected via HDMI, my avr read analog audio input. I tried for hours messing with pc settings, plex, and avr settings...to no avail. I have an AMD Radeon 7450 video card. Do i need to upgrade my card? I was trying to watch ripped blu rays. They play fine on my pc.



Thanx
post #760 of 801
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Originally Posted by kawie01 View Post

Gave up,

I connected my pc to my onkyo 818 and ran plex, but no sound. Even though I was connected via HDMI, my avr read analog audio input. I tried for hours messing with pc settings, plex, and avr settings...to no avail. I have an AMD Radeon 7450 video card. Do i need to upgrade my card? I was trying to watch ripped blu rays. They play fine on my pc.



Thanx
You just started using Plex? Can you explain your HTPC? Does it need to do other tasks (non-HTPC duty)?

Take it you are using windows? Did you install PlexHT or the older PMC? Do you know how to configure the audio passthrough settings within PlexHT?
post #761 of 801
Slayer,

Sorry, i am using win 8. Did download plexHT weeks ago and been using it on my pc. Just wanted to hook up pc to my avr to my pj. Not sure if i know how to do pass through.
post #762 of 801
Quote:
Originally Posted by kawie01 View Post

Gave up,

I connected my pc to my onkyo 818 and ran plex, but no sound. Even though I was connected via HDMI, my avr read analog audio input. I tried for hours messing with pc settings, plex, and avr settings...to no avail. I have an AMD Radeon 7450 video card. Do i need to upgrade my card? I was trying to watch ripped blu rays. They play fine on my pc.



Thanx

I mean audio plays fine on pc via audio jacks
post #763 of 801
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Originally Posted by hyperactiveme View Post

How would I run plex besides keeping my laptop on 24/7. We have 3 players. It's there an better way that isn't to expensive. Ive read about synology. It's that the way to go? I no longer have cable so I like to stream from plex channels.

I have a dedicated wdtv player that it's connected to an external drive that I use to watch mkv files. I'm not worried about streaming those.
I didn't know if you were using the laptop as the Plex server or for playback. You said you watched mkvs "on your dedicated HT room" so I thought you had a HTPC.

You need to have the Plex server running to access any media from it. Probably the cheapest route would be to re-purpose a desktop PC to use as a media server. If you don't have one you might find a friend or relative that has an old one that you can have for free.
post #764 of 801
Update your Plex Server to patch a security hole.

http://secunia.com/community/advisories/57205
post #765 of 801
Plex users, place your votes on the "Official HTPC software poll". Plex is running really low on the ranking, surely there are more Plex users around wink.gif
post #766 of 801
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Originally Posted by Sammy2 View Post

Update your Plex Server to patch a security hole.

http://secunia.com/community/advisories/57205

I'm running mine on a FreeBSD server that is not reachable from outside my home network...

I was never really fond of accessing my media from outside my home... one of the main reasons I didn't buy plex pass...
post #767 of 801
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Originally Posted by balky View Post

I was never really fond of accessing my media from outside my home... one of the main reasons I didn't buy plex pass...

I want to access my media from outside my home. That's the reason I did buy a Plex Pass. smile.gif
post #768 of 801

Nice thing about Plex is the Unsupported App Channel. It will let you access your MediaPortal from within plex. And i think it might pick up on the libraries you already have organized.

post #769 of 801

Hey everyone, I am very new to the Plex World, I downloaded the server, installed it on a dedicated system and pointed it to my NAS for my Video Files. I got it working inside my network without any issues on both my iPhone and iPad but wonder what I am missing to get it to work outside of my network.

 

I went through and opened up the default port of 32400 on my firewall and checked it / verified it with GRC.com and can see the firewall showing access being allowed / forwarded to the proper IP address of the Plex System, I even have the little green checkbox next to the "Sever is Mapped to port 32400" in the Plex Media Server Settings but when I try and connect to the server outside of my network I get nothing. But a Blank Screen showing Channels.

 

On my iPad I am logging in to my account without any issues but as I said I get a completely blank screen / no media showing up. Any thoughts / suggestions? Do I have to set up "Sharing" or something like that? I've been all over the Plex website and it doesn't get in to the nitty gritty (on my opinion) of how things are really working / being set up.

 

When I log in remotely to the Plex Website, it shows my server and it says / shows 1 Plex Server and it shows 2 Libraries with the "Last Seen" only a few minutes before.

 

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated before I loose any more of my hair =)

post #770 of 801
What I have done in order to access my media from outside, is to modify the allowed networks list on the server...

https://plexapp.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/201105343-Advanced-Server-Settings

has more info on how to do that...

I don't use plexpass simply because I don't want any external server that I don't know of or how it is managed to have any knowledge of what I have on my local server or how I use it...

I must say as well that I usually enable the port forwarding from outside ONLY when I need to access media from outside, once I get back home, I disable the port forwarding...

I would not recommend leaving your media accessible 24 x 7 from outside... smile.gif

Good luck
post #771 of 801
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Originally Posted by balky View Post

What I have done in order to access my media from outside, is to modify the allowed networks list on the server...

https://plexapp.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/201105343-Advanced-Server-Settings

has more info on how to do that...

I don't use plexpass simply because I don't want any external server that I don't know of or how it is managed to have any knowledge of what I have on my local server or how I use it...

I must say as well that I usually enable the port forwarding from outside ONLY when I need to access media from outside, once I get back home, I disable the port forwarding...

I would not recommend leaving your media accessible 24 x 7 from outside... smile.gif

Good luck


So what are you saying here... If I open up my Plex Server to the Internet that anyone can access it? I thought you had to use a User Name / Password which is the one from my account?


Edited by funhouse69 - 3/24/14 at 2:13am
post #772 of 801
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Originally Posted by funhouse69 View Post


So what are you saying here... If I open up my Plex Server to the Internet that anyone can access it? I thought you had to use a User Name / Password which is the one from my account?

Username / Password combination works using plexpass...

When you modify the allowed networks option, you're basically telling the server to accept connections from your list of networks without requesting for the username / password...

I use a professional Cisco router at home, so I am able to set the incoming source TCP port and destination TCP port, this way, any time I need to access media from outside, I usually set incoming port 10057 for example, and destination port to 32400 (plex default). Meaning that you have to know the right incoming port to reach the server, and I disable immediately when it is no longer needed...

The plexpass has its use if it doesn't bother you that someone is keeping track of everything you're doing with your server...
post #773 of 801
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Originally Posted by balky View Post


Username / Password combination works using plexpass...

When you modify the allowed networks option, you're basically telling the server to accept connections from your list of networks without requesting for the username / password...

I use a professional Cisco router at home, so I am able to set the incoming source TCP port and destination TCP port, this way, any time I need to access media from outside, I usually set incoming port 10057 for example, and destination port to 32400 (plex default). Meaning that you have to know the right incoming port to reach the server, and I disable immediately when it is no longer needed...

The plexpass has its use if it doesn't bother you that someone is keeping track of everything you're doing with your server...


I don't have Plex Pass and I when I access my Server from away from my house (without a modified access list) I get nothing until I log in to my account (free Plex account) that I assume is what is pointing me to my server. To me this is an authentication method.

 

If someone would hit that port on my Router / Firewall sure it would be open but they won't be able to access my media unless they have my user name and password. So basically the Plex Site is just acting like a Dynamic DNS in a way.

post #774 of 801
Hi,

I have relatively recently started using PLEX and I love it. It is currently my go-to player for my wife on her ipad, or for me on my android phone when we are away from home. However at home xbmc still dominates my lounge.

I am just wondering if I can make the switch there so everything is consistent (watched episodes etc).

The main factor holding me back currently is audio. Is there any setup that can bit stream audio to my receiver via HDMI?
I have PMS on my pc in another room, then a surface pro plugged into the receiver (mini display-> hdmi) bit streaming works for xbmc.

ideally though I would love to be able to switch to a chromecast or something. Can this be set to bit stream audio.

Finally if plex cannot bit stream at all are there any high quality audio settings I can choose so that I should notice no difference on Dolby true HD content etc?

My current perception is plex's image quality is really good as wll but I have only really checked it out on small screens like an iPAD, I can do some checks later on but how are other peoples impressions, can people really tell the difference between xbmc (not particularly the greatest image quality out there anyways) and a trans-coded plex blu-ray rip?

thanks in advance
post #775 of 801
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Originally Posted by Rbentley100 View Post

Hi,

I have relatively recently started using PLEX and I love it. It is currently my go-to player for my wife on her ipad, or for me on my android phone when we are away from home. However at home xbmc still dominates my lounge.

I am just wondering if I can make the switch there so everything is consistent (watched episodes etc).

The main factor holding me back currently is audio. Is there any setup that can bit stream audio to my receiver via HDMI?
I have PMS on my pc in another room, then a surface pro plugged into the receiver (mini display-> hdmi) bit streaming works for xbmc.

ideally though I would love to be able to switch to a chromecast or something. Can this be set to bit stream audio.

Finally if plex cannot bit stream at all are there any high quality audio settings I can choose so that I should notice no difference on Dolby true HD content etc?

My current perception is plex's image quality is really good as wll but I have only really checked it out on small screens like an iPAD, I can do some checks later on but how are other peoples impressions, can people really tell the difference between xbmc (not particularly the greatest image quality out there anyways) and a trans-coded plex blu-ray rip?

thanks in advance

Plex Home Theater supports HD audio bitstream...

I run my PHT on CentOS Linux mainly because I don't want to pay a windows license and the HD audio bitstream works better on Linux in the area of LPCM...

Bitstreaming LPCM audio on windows using PHT does not work... windows will re-map LPCM to the audio / sound settings on your HTPC...

If for example, you configure windows audio as 5.1, anything LPCM you throw at it will come out as 5.1 regardless it being 7.1 or 2.0... I hate windows for this...

In Linux, 5.1 LPCM comes out 5.1 untouched, and 7.1 comes out 7.1 untouched...

For DTHD and DTS-MA both windows and Linux work okay...

The image quality is way way better on Linux than in windows, you will need MadVR in windows to boost image quality if you want the same image quality as in Linux...
post #776 of 801
Yes Windows sound settings are very naff! But I can get plex to pass through DTHD and DTS-MA (and non HD Dolby digital etc?) sounds good to me smile.gif

As android is Linux based, how does the android app compare? Especially with the chromecast. I haven't been able to find any option of bitstreaming here. Even if I use MHL-> HDMI or the chromecast's hdmi.

Similar question for image quality, again android being Linux based, does the image quality compare? Isn't it the server doing the trans-coding that has the impact on the image quality here though?

Cheers
post #777 of 801
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Rbentley100 View Post

Hi,

I have relatively recently started using PLEX and I love it. It is currently my go-to player for my wife on her ipad, or for me on my android phone when we are away from home. However at home xbmc still dominates my lounge.

I am just wondering if I can make the switch there so everything is consistent (watched episodes etc).

The main factor holding me back currently is audio. Is there any setup that can bit stream audio to my receiver via HDMI?
I have PMS on my pc in another room, then a surface pro plugged into the receiver (mini display-> hdmi) bit streaming works for xbmc.

ideally though I would love to be able to switch to a chromecast or something. Can this be set to bit stream audio.

Finally if plex cannot bit stream at all are there any high quality audio settings I can choose so that I should notice no difference on Dolby true HD content etc?

My current perception is plex's image quality is really good as wll but I have only really checked it out on small screens like an iPAD, I can do some checks later on but how are other peoples impressions, can people really tell the difference between xbmc (not particularly the greatest image quality out there anyways) and a trans-coded plex blu-ray rip?

thanks in advance

Audio on Plex Home Theater basically works the same as XBMC 12.0. They use almost entirely the same code. To keep episodes in sync, you can install the trakt plugins for both XBMC and Plex Home Theater.
post #778 of 801

There is a place to manually add the server in the app. If you are not in a local area network, the automatic discovery does not work. Once you add your external ip address and port. they should show up. If they don't, completely close the app and re-open. This is how i am usually able to resolve the issue.

post #779 of 801

So would one of the Intel NUC i5 Systems be a good candidate for a Plex Server? I am getting thrown off by their Processor Requirements. They say each 1080 Stream would need a processor with a CPU Benchmark of 2000 and this CPU is showing a score of 3492 but I am looking to stream at least 4 streams at a time and most of my movies are the full Blu-Ray Rip (not compressed). so it seems like this might be under powered?

 

This is the one I am looking at specifically Intel NUC D54250WYK1

 

One other question - what OS do you suggest for Plex? Are some better than others?

 

Any info would be greatly appreciated.

post #780 of 801
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Originally Posted by funhouse69 View Post

So would one of the Intel NUC i5 Systems be a good candidate for a Plex Server? I am getting thrown off by their Processor Requirements. They say each 1080 Stream would need a processor with a CPU Benchmark of 2000 and this CPU is showing a score of 3492 but I am looking to stream at least 4 streams at a time and most of my movies are the full Blu-Ray Rip (not compressed). so it seems like this might be under powered?

This is the one I am looking at specifically Intel NUC D54250WYK1

One other question - what OS do you suggest for Plex? Are some better than others?

Any info would be greatly appreciated.
The information in the Plex FAQ is based on testing that I performed last year on both AMD/Intel platforms using different source material and target quality settings. The 2000 Passmarks is for a 1080p 10Mbps MKV transcoded to the same target quality.

But this kind of a worst case scenario. Normally you will want to avoid transcoding altogether and use direct play instead which requires minimal cpu resources. Direct play is supported by most devices with most media types. Playing media remotely usually requires transcoding due to limited up-stream bandwidth. Also Cloud-sync transcodes the media but it is not related to real-time playback.

So you need CPU power only if you need transcoding and this is usually only with remote playback situations.

The official explanation on Direct Play, Direct Stream and Transcoding.
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