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My next HTPC will be Raspberry Pi

post #1 of 146
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I think this could turn out to be very nice

Raspberry Pi
An ARM GNU/Linux box for $25

Site: http://www.raspberrypi.org/
FAQ: http://www.raspberrypi.org/faqs

Some media use (XBMC): http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/571
Optional MPEG2 available (not for free), see http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/1839


Vendor resources:
http://www.element14.com/community/g...D=hp_raspberry
http://www.designspark.com/theme/raspberrypi


Edited by karrih - 8/24/12 at 11:18pm
post #2 of 146
Yep.. all kinds of possibilities with this little beastie.
post #3 of 146
I'm reporting that guy to the MPAA...
post #4 of 146
I love things like this. For targeted applications it certainly could be fun to mess around with. But I'd note that it would unlikely make a very good general purpose HTPC ... it (on passing glance) only accels h.264 video ... I'm thinking that even a DVD (standard def. mpeg2) would present it some considerable challenges.

Some other quickly thought of shortcomings (coming from the perspective of wanting a general purpose unit) would be its limitations of 100mbit network and usb2 (usb3 would definitely improve storage performance aspects/considerations)

But still, $35 bucks for a neat little system is enticing!
post #5 of 146
I had seen this little device before, but just assumed it wouldn't be able to handle HD video. That's really cool that the GPU can do video acceleration.

A bit of googling turned up a thread in their forums which says that HD MPEG-2 acceleration is possible in the GPU, but may require code licensing

http://www.raspberrypi.org/forum/fea...80i720p-mpeg-2


If it does accelerate MPEG2, the next hurdle (for me at least) would be MythTV support. The myth frontend is a bit heavy, and may be problematic for this little device.
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post #7 of 146
Have these been released yet?
post #8 of 146
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Originally Posted by sysadmin View Post

I'm reporting that guy to the MPAA...

I know you're joking, but it really *is* getting that bad-

Salem, MA, 1690's- "You're a Witch!"

USA, 1950's- "You're a Commie!"

Planet Wide IP cartel, 2000's - "You're a Pirate!"

post #9 of 146
Actually, the Cubox has an appeal as well, both it and Raspberry can handle XBMC.
http://www.solid-run.com/products/cubox
Although the chipset from Rhombus looks better, and should be cheaper and more powerful ( $15 ).
post #10 of 146
Here's another announcement of the Raspberry Pi. This one from ARS Technica:

Graphics hardware in $25 Raspberry Pi Linux box outperforms iPhone 4S GPU
post #11 of 146
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Originally Posted by benogil View Post

Actually, the Cubox has an appeal as well, both it and Raspberry can handle XBMC.
http://www.solid-run.com/products/cubox
Although the chipset from Rhombus looks better, and should be cheaper and more powerful ( $15 ).

Following your link says that it is $135 USD, not $15.
post #12 of 146
Sorry, yes the Cubox is $135, the allwinner A10 is $15, unless you live in China, then it is $7.
http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/...nt_computer_15
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post #14 of 146
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it (on passing glance) only accels h.264 video ... I'm thinking that even a DVD (standard def. mpeg2) would present it some considerable challenges.

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A bit of googling turned up a thread in their forums which says that HD MPEG-2 acceleration is possible in the GPU, but may require code licensing

Read through a blog post ( http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/592#comment-9929 ) and see that they've opted not to license mpeg2. Too bad.

Some other interesting Raspberry pi discussions:

- Some commentary on the apparent up roar about no kits: http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/592#comment-10075

- Phoronix news article makes mention about where the LIMA project might help out: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...tem&px=MTA1MTc

- a user comment in the Phoronix forums that I found interesting: "Raspberry Pi has had about 3 stories a day show up on Slashdot for about the last year. The level of hype has outstripped the actual device. While it looks like a nice, low-power board that could be handy in many cases, the Raspberry Pi is not the pure-open source Windows/iPhone/Apple killer that the hype machine has portrayed. ": http://phoronix.com/forums/showthrea...148#post249148

That user comment is probably over critical, but it strikes me that there is an element of truth to what he is saying. Anyway, now back to your regularly scheduled programming ...
post #15 of 146
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Originally Posted by waterhead View Post

Following your link says that it is $135 USD, not $15.


I thought they were targeting $3.14
post #16 of 146
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Originally Posted by Rgb View Post

I thought they were targeting $3.14

It actually took me about 20 seconds before I got the joke!
post #17 of 146
I can't really see that thing making a good HTPC replacement. In fact, I really can't figure out what the heck it'd be useful for. Therefore, I'll only be buying one or two of 'em until I do figure it out.
post #18 of 146
First Run of Raspberry Pi Boards To Be Completed Feb 20th


http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/1...leted-feb-20th

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Raspberry Pi has confirmed the first batch of $35 PCs will be constructed on February 20. They've also coaxed Broadcom into releasing the datasheet for the board. Apparently the company hit a snag with the quartz crystal package so there was a manufacturing delay, but it's since been resolved and things are on schedule for later this month.
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post #20 of 146
Well, apparently it has launched, and sold out!

http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2012/02/r...lable-for.html

And their web site is experiencing very high traffic:

http://www.raspberrypi.org/

Not on the same price level as the RaspberryPi, but another microPC has been introduced:

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/...m_campaign=rss

http://www.cstick.com/content.php?11...kes-pre-orders
post #21 of 146
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Originally Posted by CityK View Post

Read through a blog post ( http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/592#comment-9929 ) and see that they've opted not to license mpeg2. Too bad.

Some other interesting Raspberry pi discussions:

- Some commentary on the apparent up roar about no kits: http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/592#comment-10075

- Phoronix news article makes mention about where the LIMA project might help out: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...tem&px=MTA1MTc

- a user comment in the Phoronix forums that I found interesting: "Raspberry Pi has had about 3 stories a day show up on Slashdot for about the last year. The level of hype has outstripped the actual device. While it looks like a nice, low-power board that could be handy in many cases, the Raspberry Pi is not the pure-open source Windows/iPhone/Apple killer that the hype machine has portrayed. ": http://phoronix.com/forums/showthrea...148#post249148

That user comment is probably over critical, but it strikes me that there is an element of truth to what he is saying. Anyway, now back to your regularly scheduled programming ...


While I'm excited for something like this I also agree with the hype.

I wish they went more into detail on what it will play before the release. I guess I'll have to wait for consumers to be the Guinea pigs..
post #22 of 146
http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/805

http://tech.slashdot.org/story/12/03...y-for-download

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"The Raspberry Pi Fedora Remix is ready for download! The recommended distro to run on the Raspberry Pi is a Remix of the Fedora open source software. The Remix is a distribution comprised of software packages from the Fedora ARM project, plus a small number of additional packages that are modified from the Fedora versions or which cannot be included in Fedora due to licensing issues - in particular, the libraries for accessing the VideoCore GPU on the Raspberry Pi."
post #23 of 146
ModMyPi Raspberry Pi case offers 5 percent kickback to Foundation

http://www.geek.com/articles/gadgets...tion-20120321/

Raspberry Pi gets a case you can download and 3D print

http://www.geek.com/articles/chips/r...print-2012035/

http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/1...the-foundation
post #24 of 146
First Batch Of £16 Raspberry Pi PCs Arrives

Read more: http://www.itproportal.com/2012/04/1...#ixzz1s1o3aU2R
post #25 of 146
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Originally Posted by Rgb View Post

ModMyPi Raspberry Pi case offers 5 percent kickback to Foundation

http://www.geek.com/articles/gadgets...tion-20120321/

Prototypes:
- http://blog.modmypi.com/2012/04/rasp....html?spref=tw
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=POR06nFT5I4

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rgb View Post

First Batch Of £16 Raspberry Pi PCs Arrives

Read more: http://www.itproportal.com/2012/04/1...#ixzz1s1o3aU2R

Found the video contained in the following link interesting from a standpoint of a history of the device's development and evolution:
- http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17703852

Quote:
Originally Posted by CityK View Post

a user comment in the Phoronix forums that I found interesting: "Raspberry Pi has had about 3 stories a day show up on Slashdot for about the last year. The level of hype has outstripped the actual device."... it strikes me that there is an element of truth to what he is saying

Yes, yes, I know -- the irony is not lost upon me.
post #26 of 146
Nice review, booting Debian to a LXDE desktop from SD card.

http://www.techspot.com/review/527-raspberry-pi/

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We received a Model B ($35), which is powered by a Broadcom BCM2835 SoC that includes a 700MHz ARM1176JZF-S CPU core, 256MB of RAM and a Broadcom VideoCore IV GPU with OpenGL ES 2.0 that supports 1080p at 30FPS as well as H.264 and MPEG-4 high-profile decoding for smooth Blu-ray playback. Connectivity includes two USB ports, Ethernet, HDMI, RCA video, an SD card slot, a 3.5mm audio jack and two rows of 13 General Purpose Input/Output (GPIO) pins for further expansion.

The Model A ($25, to be released at a later date) ships without Ethernet and has a single USB port. Both models measure 85.60mm x 53.98mm x 17mm, although the SD card and connectors overlap the PCB board edges. Besides the Raspberry Pi itself, you'll also need various other items before you can configure and use the device:

5v micro-USB power adapter with at least 700mA (many micro-USB phone chargers work).
SD card, or micro-SD card in an adapter, with the OS preloaded (4GB to 32GB recommended).
USB keyboard and mouse (PS/2 to USB adapters might work, but we haven't tested this).
Powered USB hub if you intend to have more than two USB devices connected.
Display or TV with HDMI, DVI, Composite or SCART.
Ethernet cable.

http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/1...al-setup-guide
post #27 of 146
http://www.tweaktown.com/news/24233/..._on/index.html

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The APC computer is a $49 Android system based on the brand new Neo-ITX form factor which measures in at roughly half the size of standard Mini-ITX based motherboards. It features an 800MHz ARM SOC (VIA WonderMedia ARM 11 SoC) with 512MB of DDR3 memory and 2GB of onboard flash memory for storage. A modified version of Google Android 2.3 uses up most of that 2GB of flash storage, but there are external storage options. On the back I/O is a microSD slot and of course you could hook in an external USB 2.0 drive. VIA spent a lot of time customizing Android to enable keyboard and mouse support which natively it does not support. The system also comes with the modified apps such as a YouTube player, Angry Birds, a file manager, web browser and more.


However, the VIA APC is not designed to be about local storage. It is designed to stream your content from the cloud and does so at an amazing price and within a very tiny footprint. The APC will fit in normal Mini-ITX cases with room to spare for something like a 3.5-inch or 2.5-inch hard drive. On the I/O panel you get VGA output, HDMI output (up to 720p playback with hardware acceleration), four USB 2.0 ports, gigabit LAN and audio out and microphone in.


There is not much on the motherboard / computer itself. There is just the few chips required to power the system along with a four pin fan header if you wish to add a cooling fan to the system, but it does not require it and enables a completely silent system. One of the other amazing aspects of this system is that at load it only consumes 13.5 watts of power and hardly anything at idle coming in at just 4 watts. The system will ship with just a small 15 watt external power supply.

VIA expects to start shipping the APC, "a bicycle for your mind", towards the end of June or sometime in July for just $49. The other big news is that VIA will be selling the APC directly on http://www.apc.io. Pre-orders will begin very soon. For a closer look at the Nano-ITX Neo-ITX APC, watch the video above.

Another Raspberry Pi? $49 ARM Single-Board Computer With Android

http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/1...r-with-android
post #28 of 146
First Steps with the Raspberry Pi: Introduction

http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20...roduction.html

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Specifications (Model B) at a glance

CPU:
Broadcom BCM2835 SoC (700MHz)
RAM:
256MB (shared with GPU)
Storage:
SD / MMC/ SDIO card slot to boot and for storage. No built-in hard disk or solid state drive.
Graphics
Dual-core VideoCore IV GPU
Screen:
HDMI and Composite video out
Audio: HDMI, 3.5mm audio port
Ports:
2 onboard USB2 slots (which share a single USB 2 connection), SD card slot, 10/100 Ethernet
Size: 86 x 54 x 17 (width, depth, height)
Power: 2W (idle), 3W (peak)
Weight: 45g


The SoC provides OpenGL ES 2.0, hardware-accelerated OpenVG and 1080p HD video. As you can see from the above specification, the Raspberry Pi does not have onboard wireless capabilities, but it is possible to use a USB-connected wifi dongle, although only some devices are supported. Neither does the Raspberry Pi have a real time clock. Given that the machine will typically be connected to the internet, this is not an inconvenience and provides a cost saving. Further, if a real time clock is really needed, a third-party battery backed up real time clock module for the Raspberry Pi should be available very soon.

It is easy to overclock both the CPU, RAM, and GPU of the Raspberry Pi by editing a single text file (/boot/config.txt), although this activity voids the warranty. Some users have reported speed increases of about 20%, without apparently affecting the stability of the machine.

http://linux.slashdot.org/story/12/0...e-raspberry-pi

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A lot of people are buying the Pi to run XBMC. Since it can support 1080p flawlessly and the Via APC cannot, well... for many people the choice is obvious.
post #29 of 146
Has anyone tried to get XBMC running on the Pi? I have one, but I haven't had time to start playing.

Tim
post #30 of 146
Most of the relevant current info, AFAIK-

http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=Raspberry_Pi

http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/571

XBMC on RPi demo video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NR57ELY28s

XBMC RPi discussion
http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=113824

Installing OpenELEC on Raspberry Pi
http://wiki.openelec.tv/index.php?title=Installing_OpenELEC_on_Raspberry_Pi

Raspbmc - XBMC-centric linux-based OS install
http://www.raspbmc.com/2012/05/raspbmc-is-now-in-beta/
Edited by Rgb - 7/13/12 at 3:42am
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