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post #1111 of 1574
I would like to make the "Samsung D series FBr fix" on my 64D7000. After looking at the thread I understand that I can't use the Logic Board Update Method because I have FW version 1016.2.
But I thought I could still use the Samsung distributed firmware to get the logic board updated by using the d/led FW 1014.6 posted by muffinmcfluffin. But it won't install (says "No file to update"), I guess because it's an older FW than the one I have now.

So, is there anyway to apply the "Samsung D series FBr fix" to my 64D700?

Thanks for your help.
post #1112 of 1574
Quote:
Originally Posted by Assaf Amrani View Post

Hello everyone!
I have the Samsung PS51D550, I've performed the the logic board upgrade, pops are gone, but something weird happens
Everytime I turn off and back on my TV the color setting i've adjusted are gone and i need to do it all over again, has anyone
experienced something like that?

No, this hasn't been a reported problem.

Quote:
Originally Posted by HomeTheatreMaven View Post

I would like to make the "Samsung D series FBr fix" on my 64D7000. After looking at the thread I understand that I can't use the Logic Board Update Method because I have FW version 1016.2.
But I thought I could still use the Samsung distributed firmware to get the logic board updated by using the d/led FW 1014.6 posted by muffinmcfluffin. But it won't install (says "No file to update"), I guess because it's an older FW than the one I have now.
So, is there anyway to apply the "Samsung D series FBr fix" to my 64D700?
Thanks for your help.

Once you have upgraded to 1016.2, there is no way to install the fix. You cannot install an older version of firmware and you won't be able to use the emulator to perform the upgrade manually because Samsung has disabled it.
post #1113 of 1574
^ and that is why Samsung should be held responsible.
post #1114 of 1574
Thread Starter 
There is a method to downgrade firmware here. So far it is tested on US D8000 and Euro D8000/D7000/D550. It is not without risks. If you've got a North American D7000 and want to be a downgrade tester pm me.
Edited by zoyd - 6/15/12 at 8:20am
post #1115 of 1574
I've found what I hope is the ultimate fix. My 65D7000 is still doing the turn-off thing and the brightness pops after all the fixes noted here. I'm sending it back to Crutchfield for an E replacement. I REALLY hope there aren't any issues with the E. I also wanted to note that Crutchfield was awesome on the tech support and customer service side of things. Covering all the shipping plus a discount on the price difference between the D and the E. Would have like an even swap, but I'll take what I can get. Didn't want to try another D which would have cost me zero, of course. Glad I saved all the boxes! The new one better freaking work is all I can say or it will go back for brand P.
post #1116 of 1574
Quote:
Originally Posted by zoyd View Post

There is a method to downgrade firmware here. So far it is tested on US D8000 and Euro D8000/D7000/D550. It is not without risks. If you've got a North American D7000 and want to be a downgrade tester pm me.

It works! biggrin.gif

Version on my D7000 changed from 1016.2 back to 1013.1. Thanks, zoyd. Now to try the remote simulator later this evening.


Larry
post #1117 of 1574
Do smarthub upgrades also upgrade the base firmware?
Quote:
Originally Posted by zoyd View Post

There is a method to downgrade firmware here. So far it is tested on US D8000 and Euro D8000/D7000/D550. It is not without risks. If you've got a North American D7000 and want to be a downgrade tester pm me.
post #1118 of 1574
Thread Starter 
No
post #1119 of 1574
Awesome awesome!

So, what do you think is the chance of getting someone to fix the Fbr in 3d mode?

I remember it sounded like you might have found the appropriate section one time, but there must be another section like it for 3d.

Fbr is still very present in 3d mode unfortunatly.
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Originally Posted by zoyd View Post

No
post #1120 of 1574
Thread Starter 
I wouldn't expect any changes from samsung at this point in the lifecycle and anything to do with black levels or FBr requires timing board firmware changes. I don't watch a lot of 3D so I haven't noticed any particular problems with it.
post #1121 of 1574
For the D7000, the firmware downgrade from 1016 to 1013 restores full use of the ru Samsung TV Communicator. biggrin.gif Very happy camper here.

Larry
post #1122 of 1574
It worked for me too. Thanks Larry and zyod.

In case anyone else has a D7000 with the 1016.2 firmware, and you want to fix the FBr problem described in Post #1:
1. first use the Samygo fix described in Post # 1124; it backs FW to 1013.1
2. do not update to FW 1014.6 as described in Post 1 #1. If you do, the Logic Board Update Method will not work (at least it didn't work for me)..
3. Use Larry's Logic Board Update Method on FW 1013.1 (which is produced by Samygo.)

In other words, Larry's Logic Board Update Method doesn't seem to work with FW 1014.6 or 1016.2, but it does with 1013.1
Edited by HomeTheatreMaven - 6/18/12 at 6:26pm
post #1123 of 1574
Been on vaction,just got back, and I find out Zoyd has done it again:) Thanks for the heads up on the firmware downgrade. Works on the 6500 also.
Larry since I believe the 6500,6900 and 7000 all use the same firmware, was wondering if you had one to recomend. I know we can rule out 1016.
post #1124 of 1574
kanpol,

I've have my D7000 at the original default version that was restored by the roll-back (ver 1013.1.) Everything looks good there and since most of the upgraded versions added stuff that don't interest me -- apps, improvements to 3D, and such -- I might just leave it where it is.

BTW, I think zoyd would give the credit for the roll-back method to the people at SamyGo.

Larry
post #1125 of 1574
Thread Starter 
That's right, I had nothing to do with the rollback, just spreading the news.smile.gif
post #1126 of 1574
Do the FBr issues exist with the very latest build of the D8000?
post #1127 of 1574
Zoyd, Sometimes spreading the news is as important as making the news. So once again thank you very much:)
post #1128 of 1574
3D does seem to have worse FBR, I was just wondering if by looking at the FBr firmware someone could see they didn't do the same changes to the 3D modes they did with 2D.

I guess even if you did, who want's to be the guinee pig. lol

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Originally Posted by zoyd View Post

I wouldn't expect any changes from samsung at this point in the lifecycle and anything to do with black levels or FBr requires timing board firmware changes. I don't watch a lot of 3D so I haven't noticed any particular problems with it.
post #1129 of 1574
Larry after doing the downgrade is your current firmware version 1013? The reason why I ask is because mine says 1090 and when I try to install any other firmware from usb it says no file available to upgrade? Even if I check online it says the same thing.
post #1130 of 1574
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by kanpol View Post

Larry after doing the downgrade is your current firmware version 1013? The reason why I ask is because mine says 1090 and when I try to install any other firmware from usb it says no file available to upgrade? Even if I check online it says the same thing.

That's the trick SamyGO uses to be able to install it, a higher version number. There are two scenarios for this:

1. You downgrade from a version that does not have security checking (which is what you did), the version will say 1090 and you can't upgrade.
2. You downgrade from a version that does have security checking (more recent versions). The correct version 1013 will get written and you can upgrade.


In order for you to upgrade you will have to root the display and change the version number in the version file if you are comfortable doing such things.
post #1131 of 1574
I read on sammygo about entering the engineering firmware 0000.0 and resetting everything including the eeprom. The firmware for that post T-MST4DEUC though is different then the one I use T-MST5AUSC.
Zoyd how would I go about rooting the display?
post #1132 of 1574
Thread Starter 
Read this. Installing the SamyGO widget will give you shell and ftp access to the display. I can help you out after you get that far. The widget itself is not dangerous but once you have shell access it is very easy to brick your display (I have done it myself and had to replace the mainboard), so you have to be sure you understand those risks.
post #1133 of 1574
Zoyd my tv uses mstar and not arm based cpu. I found this on sammygo, its for mstar cpu.
http://wiki.samygo.tv/index.php5/Root_access_for_D_series_Mstar_cpu_models

Thank you for the offer to help, I really appriciate it:) I just got home from work need to clean up 1st
post #1134 of 1574
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by kanpol View Post

Zoyd my tv uses mstar and not arm based cpu. I found this on sammygo, its for mstar cpu.
http://wiki.samygo.tv/index.php5/Root_access_for_D_series_Mstar_cpu_models
Thank you for the offer to help, I really appriciate it:) I just got home from work need to clean up 1st


Before hacking try a factory reset (hold down exit key for >15 seconds until you get reset menu). That might reset your version string to the right value.
post #1135 of 1574
Hello guys and thank you again for the great work !.

I did the fbr fix today on my french EU PS51D550, everything was fine and the pops are now gone smile.gif .

Logic board goes from 11-02-23 to 11-11-12.

I restored all my picture previous settings ( my set was professionally calibrated ).

Did you have a huge brightness setting change too ?

My previous was 67 to match spears&munsil Plug low pattern or Disney WOW advanced brightness pattern.

No I need to boot brightness to 79 ( that's 12 more eek.gif ), all other settings, and modes (cells, contrats, cinema, cinema-smooth, every eco or other " enhancement " disabled ).

So all is like before except brightness and I feel my set need to be calibrated again, the PQ isn't good as before, godd but not excellent.

Do you think that brightness fall is normal and did you have it too with the fbr fix ?
post #1136 of 1574
Thread Starter 
Hi Kevin, that is unusual. After the update I did not need to update any settings and there were no changes in picture quality. Did you check with other D550 users in the owner's thread?


edit: I see from the D550 thread that you may have rolled back your firmware. Different firmware versions may change the brightness setting, I remember reading that some European FW versions changed peak white levels (contrast) which will also change brightness. You can update back to version you were at if you want to, it won't affect the logic board software.
Edited by zoyd - 6/21/12 at 4:44pm
post #1137 of 1574
Zoyd you a genuis no a suuuperrr genuis:) The 15 sec exit button worked the firmware is back to 1013 from 1090. Once again thank you very much sir.
Now to put my settings back in, lol
post #1138 of 1574
Quote:
Originally Posted by zoyd View Post

Hi Kevin, that is unusual. After the update I did not need to update any settings and there were no changes in picture quality. Did you check with other D550 users in the owner's thread?
edit: I see from the D550 thread that you may have rolled back your firmware. Different firmware versions may change the brightness setting, I remember reading that some European FW versions changed peak white levels (contrast) which will also change brightness. You can update back to version you were at if you want to, it won't affect the logic board software.

Hello zoyd,

Thanks for the answer.

In my case, I didn't rollback my firmware, I was already on EU 1026.0 before and after the logic board update.

There is a guy in the D550 thread who wanted to rollback his firmware. I just asked how to do that because I thinked it was impossible to rallback from 1026 to 1024 for example.

So in my case, the original brightness level have a 12 nothchs setting decrease and I was wondering why.

I just checked again, every setting is the same except brightness level, in fact, for a dark room, 79 is fine but for the day setting, I must rise it to the maximum 100.

What do you suggest to me, a full reset ?

I didn't change anything in my Sercice Menu but if someone can give me the original PS51D550 values, I would like to chech them.
post #1139 of 1574
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by KevinNash View Post


So in my case, the original brightness level have a 12 nothchs setting decrease and I was wondering why.
I just checked again, every setting is the same except brightness level, in fact, for a dark room, 79 is fine but for the day setting, I must rise it to the maximum 100.
What do you suggest to me, a full reset ?
I didn't change anything in my Sercice Menu but if someone can give me the original PS51D550 values, I would like to chech them.

You mean contrast. Some EU firmware updates decreased maximum light output, I think rolling back the firmware to a better version is what most people do now. The other option is to raise the values of 2nd_R_H, 2nd_G_H, 2nd_B_H in the service menu under ADC/WB->ADC Results
post #1140 of 1574
I really mean Brightness, I set it with PLUGEhigh of Spears&Munsil Blu-ray or black clipping pattern on AVS HD 709.

Do you know how to rollback my firmware ? I thinked it was impossible.

I tried with classic USB method but that doesn't work frown.gif
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