Samsung D series FBr fix discussion - Page 39

Kevin, maybe you have set HDMI Backlevel to low, try normal if you aren't able to see all shade's of grey/black. If that option is greyed out, maybe your player or whatever is wrongly adjusted.

And for all with EU-Modells look here for english:
http://www.avforums.com/forums/plasma-tvs/1643623-how-firmware-downgrade-samsung-d-series-plasma.html

And here for german:
http://www.hifi-forum.de/index.php?action=browseT&back=1&sort=lpost&forum_id=138&thread=3653

versions of how to downgrade and download firmwares.

For those who are willing to loose their settings can use the factory reset method to correct version number of fake-firmware.
If you want to keep your settings follow step number 2 to change version number.

I usually set my brightness by eye in a dark room with a pattern and find the point where " below black " bars must appear/disappear.

If I do it when the room is bright, the setting is different but I suppose it's because of the insane glare oh the D550 lol so it's very hard to see my below black bars appear/disappear in fact.

Thank you for the help, I'll use my meter and redo my cal.

After all you're right, if I must set brightness higher, that's not an issue.

Thanks for the links, I'll have a serious look on them.

My blacklevel is always greyed , cinema smooth engaged or not ( even before the logic board flash ).

I suppose it's because my player Dune HD-TV301 is set to output 709HD matrix but maybe I am wrong on that point ?

HDMI blacklevel is greyed out than YCbCr is put through. The only thing you have to check is, if the Dune HD has an option for color range, like superwhite option in PS3.
For some EU-models, like mine, there is a black crush in some conditions. And you can't get rid of that. Check your experts pattern 1 in advanced menu. I can only see the bars in the black part of the pattern at brightness at 100! On my set (PS51D6900) the build in pattern is just wrong because in normal conditions I have no black crush. But with an expert pattern like mine it is possible that your set also has an black crush under some conditions.

I just saw a strange thing while calibrating my set PS51D550, I have the fbrFix and o friendly firmware downgrade to the excellent 1024 so my brightness is now really great :

If I put a full 100 black picture ( and no, my set doesn't shut off because my brightness is enough high ) and after that I switch to a clear picture ( orange for example ) :

There's a lot af blacks pixels who takes ages to disappear and become orange.

I never noticed that before the fbrFix, could others check that on their sets and give me feedback please ?

Thanks in advance.

I read MrCoops issue, mine is different and less embarrassing.

I'll try to explain bettre ( I am french lol ) :

If I swap from a 100% black picture to a 100% red one, some pixels continue to be black for severals seconds.

Black to red is the worst, if I swap from black to white, the black pixels disappear very quickly.

If you have a Xbox 360 you can also see by by swapping between the menus, some black pixels stay in the green background for some seconds.

Can some others fbr fix users test that on their set ?

I am sure that wasn't here before the logic board update.

Of course if there is a solution to rollback my logic board, I am interested.

hope some one can help me i done the downgrading firmware trick reset the tv and i have lost my tv type tuner setting in the service menu model number d550 hope some one can help:eek:

It's a 51 inchs ( EU PS51D550 ).

You have an idea for me ?

I'll call Samsung for a warranty service and keep you inform

I did today, the stupid phone guy told me it's screen burning, he did not understand anything at my problem So I don't know if a tech will come to see my set...

I just did a test with my X-Rite display 2.

On a full black screen, before the fbrFix, I had a black level 0,06 cd/m², 0,0175 ftL ( 24p and cinema smooth on, so that's the worst case ).

Now, after the fbrFix, I have 0,02 cd/m², 0,0058 ftL three times less !

Could it be related ? I mean less black could affect pixels to be hard and slow to " wake up " to another color ?

I saw some informations about voltages on you other thread here http://www.avsforum.com/t/1390635/samsung-plasma-panel-tweaks-for-better-blacks

I want to check them, I saw the VA and VS test points but how to use the voltmeter ? If I want to mesure VA, I put on pin on the voltmeter on VA test point but where do I put the other pin ?

Thanks again for the help, very appreciated. You are right, my black bars are really inky, never see that before Previously they were black-grey.

Perhaps my set was already on the low limit and the logic board flash revealed the problem ? Strangely it's a EU D550, as MrCoops.

In fact the PQ is not so good, it seems I losted black details, the PQ looks " too black " to me certainly related to the pixel misfires thing.

Is there a voltage or a low mll you can suggest to me ?

And what is CCW ? Counter clock wise, so screwdriver to the left ? I am french and french people and english, you know So I prefer to ask
Edited by KevinNash - 6/25/12 at 3:36pm

Good idea, I clearly see the pixels misfire on this scrolling pattern.

I must find time to open my set now

is their a firmware out their for the 550 as the things like a radiator not good for the summer nights

i used to own a panasonic pwd6 and thats was fine
cheers anyway might be time to move to an led i think

I just had my tv repaired, well all of the guts replaced except the power supply and speakers to fix the exact problem you're having. They tech said it most likely was the logic board but couldn't say for sure being that they don't actually diagnose the problems on site, the just replace everything and send it back to samsung to be diagnosed.

Anyways the tv is working great and the issue is resolved. Keep pressing the issue with samsung but just don't tell them anything beyond what the issue is. Also go directly through their website and fill out the repair form. The people they got working the phones are pretty useless so don't even waste your time with them any more.

I just want to be sure exactly what I am doing so to clairfy I do 2 steps?

My TV is the PN59D8000 & I have done the following step:
To install the firmware:

-Unpack/unzip firmware and place the image folder on your USB stick in a folder named T-GAPxxxxx (D8000),

T-MSTxxxxx(others)

xxxxx=8AKUC (D8000)
xxxxx=5AUSC (D6500,D6900,D7000)
xxxxx=4AUSC (D550)

-On TV hit menu->support->software upgrade->by usb


I did verify I now have following version on my logic board:

PN59D8000: 11-11-04
& I did see the optimization screen

Now my question is am I done or do I continue on with the following step:?

Logic Board Update Method
By this method you can manually apply the second step of the official firmware upgrade process. This step will upgrade your logic board to the version which eliminates jumps in black level luminance (pops). This update will not change your minimum luminance level (mll) nor will it eliminate black level rise during bright content, all it does is remove the pops that were so noticeable in the previous revision. The logic upgrade can be performed over any FW version.

D8000 procedure

1. Download this file.
2. Extract file for your model from list below and rename it to LOGIC.bin- Note: If you have "show extensions" turned off in windows rename the file LOGIC
3. Place on stick in folder PDP_LOGIC
4. Turn on TV and attach stick to USB 1
5. Press mute+7+3+7+enter
6. Check Logic SW version
7. Check panel version (DS or DF)
8. Navigate to Logic USB D/L and select it
9. Right arrow to initiate flash (no turning back here)
10. "Upgrading" will be displayed if the TV accepted the file and this takes a minute or so and then the TV reboots.
11. Recheck Logic SW version.

Just want to be 100% certain that I do indeed need to do this 2nd step( Logic Board Update Method) before doing it, Thanks in advance

Hi
Will it work on Samsung Smart TV UE46ES5505 with 1021 firmware?

I have a 51D550. I assume it was from upgrading the logic board firmware as I didn't have the problem before doing it as well as the symptoms being the same as what others reported after upgrading to the FW.

Hummm so like me and MrCoops, EU PS51D550 too ?

Did you remark a very low black level after the update ( that's my case, as I said before, my blacks are 3 times lowers since the logic board update ) ?

Hello, here are my logicboard menu shots :

Before :



After update :



As you can see, Panel temperature and MRT values are different before and after the update ?

Do you know why ? Is the temperature the " real " temperature of the panel and what is MRT ?

Could it be related to the misfires problems of D550 users ?