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post #1171 of 1615
heard theres new firmware 1027, any news on it?
post #1172 of 1615
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by KevinNash View Post

As you can see, Panel temperature and MRT values are different before and after the update ?
Do you know why ? Is the temperature the " real " temperature of the panel and what is MRT ?
Could it be related to the misfires problems of D550 users ?

I don't think these are related, temperature is the real temperature of the panel in Celsius (mine is 42 at the moment, room is 24). I don't know what MRT is.
post #1173 of 1615
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by zoyd View Post

I don't know what MRT is.

Looks like MRT is a timer, it increments in 2 hour steps. So this reflects the panel usage time as seen by the logic board. Mine is currently at 988.
post #1174 of 1615
Yes, MRT definitely is a timer and its value increments every 2 hours of TV on-time.

BTW my panel's temperature is 315K and ambient room is 298K. biggrin.gif

Larry
post #1175 of 1615
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Originally Posted by zoyd View Post

Looks like MRT is a timer, it increments in 2 hour steps. So this reflects the panel usage time as seen by the logic board. Mine is currently at 988.

I am the best with 1598 lol biggrin.gif
post #1176 of 1615
Hi guys,

Ill just go ahead and say Im a dipshit when it comes to this kind of thing. I have a D7000 and I tried method one. When I go to menu and software upgrade by usb it says nothing found on usb. I named the file exactly as described am I missing something? Also I ordered this TV end of FEB / MAR. Not sure if that matter starting to wonder if this is worth it with all these steps. Im sorry guys Im not a techno wiz, just love the tV but the USB would allow me to run the test clips and the pops are definitely there frown.gif

Can anyone help a guy out who doesnt want to mess up is TV. Is there an easy way haha?
post #1177 of 1615
As long as your current firmware version is a lower number than 1014.6, you can use method 1. If you have been installing the new firmwares as Samsung has released them, then you may not be able to use this method.
DO NOT rename anything.

Your problem could be the way the firmware was zipped - there is an extra folder that confuses the TV. On a PC:
1. Put the T-MST5AUSC.zip file on your desktop (the one you downloaded).
2. Right click and select extract to desktop.
3. Open the new (unzipped) folder and there should be a second folder named T-MST5AUSC.
4. Drag and drop this folder to your USB.
5. Follow firmware upgrade by USB instructions.
post #1178 of 1615
Well, I've read through the instructions on this and have more questions than are answered in the first post. I have a US based PN64D7000 with the noticeable pops in brightness - firmware is 1016.2

Here are my questions:

Description says "If you have a non-US display and want to apply the "brightness pops" fix you can skip down to Logic Board Update Method."

But according to the spreadsheet the only thing working for my model and size IS the logic board method. Should I do the 1014.6 FW downgrade in addition to the logic board thing?

Also is there a method for Mac users to perform the logic board method?

I would really like to fix this, but the instructions are clearly written for extreme techies, and I'm only a moderate techie.

Thanx
post #1179 of 1615
With 1016.2 firmware, you will not be able to use the emulator to perform the logic upgrade manually. Your only option is to use the Samygo method to downgrade your firmware, then do the manual logic upgrade (I may be wrong, but I don't think you can install 1014.6 even after the downgrade unless you know how to hack the firmware version - zoyd can clarify this).
post #1180 of 1615
So what are my options at this point?
When I bought this set last year, I figured the brightness popping issue would be fixed with upcoming software updates, but still isn't resolved.
Will Samsung come out and fix? Replace?
If they replace, will it be an E version or what?

Thanx
post #1181 of 1615
Well, technically it was "fixed" (I'd say "improved" is more accurate, this was not a 100% fix for my TV) with a firmware, but you had to be in the right place at the right time to catch it. Would have been nice if an official firmware was issued, but there were problems with that apparently.

Doesn't hurt to schedule a service call with Samsung, but not sure what you can expect out of it (you can try searching this thread, I think some have gone this route). A lot depends on who you talk to and how persistent you are. As a last resort, if needed, you can get help here to do the downgrade and use Method 2 to apply the fix.
post #1182 of 1615
Hi, I have a UK PS51D8000.

I have downgraded the Firmware to 1015.

I am wondering, am I able to use this Logic Board Update Method?
post #1183 of 1615
Gents,

thanks for the response, Okay again I am slow...I just checked the software version 001013. should I try method one for fbr fix, then do a firmware upgrade or should I never mess with the upgrade at all? Thanks again I just want to make the right move here lol
post #1184 of 1615
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Originally Posted by 192darkhorse View Post

Hi guys,
Ill just go ahead and say Im a dipshit when it comes to this kind of thing. I have a D7000 and I tried method one. When I go to menu and software upgrade by usb it says nothing found on usb. I named the file exactly as described am I missing something? Also I ordered this TV end of FEB / MAR. Not sure if that matter starting to wonder if this is worth it with all these steps. Im sorry guys Im not a techno wiz, just love the tV but the USB would allow me to run the test clips and the pops are definitely there frown.gif
Can anyone help a guy out who doesnt want to mess up is TV. Is there an easy way haha?

Sounds like you were already trying method 1.

Quote:
Originally Posted by AvidHiker View Post

As long as your current firmware version is a lower number than 1014.6, you can use method 1. If you have been installing the new firmwares as Samsung has released them, then you may not be able to use this method.
DO NOT rename anything.
Your problem could be the way the firmware was zipped - there is an extra folder that confuses the TV. On a PC:
1. Put the T-MST5AUSC.zip file on your desktop (the one you downloaded).
2. Right click and select extract to desktop.
3. Open the new (unzipped) folder and there should be a second folder named T-MST5AUSC.
4. Drag and drop this folder to your USB.
5. Follow firmware upgrade by USB instructions.

Since you are at 1013, you will be able to install 1014.6 like I described above (this is your best bet). What's the problem?

If you want to upgrade to official firmware (1016.2) after installing 1014.6, that's fine. Just make sure your logic version has changed to confirm sucessful fix (mute-1-3-7-power, see the directions in the first post).
post #1185 of 1615
Quote:
Originally Posted by AvidHiker View Post

With 1016.2 firmware, you will not be able to use the emulator to perform the logic upgrade manually. Your only option is to use the Samygo method to downgrade your firmware, then do the manual logic upgrade (I may be wrong, but I don't think you can install 1014.6 even after the downgrade unless you know how to hack the firmware version - zoyd can clarify this).

Hiker,

There is no problem updating to the D7000 1014 version after a rollback to 1013 using the Samygo method. I think the difficulty that you are referring to is only happening with the European models.

Larry
post #1186 of 1615
Good to hear, thanks Larry.
post #1187 of 1615
Quote:
Originally Posted by realeyz View Post

So what are my options at this point?
When I bought this set last year, I figured the brightness popping issue would be fixed with upcoming software updates, but still isn't resolved.
Will Samsung come out and fix? Replace?
If they replace, will it be an E version or what?
Thanx

So now it seems your "fix" is as simple as getting around the downgrade step, after that, installing the USB firmware is very straightforward. I don't know if the Samygo procedure is detailed enough for you, but people here can help (or maybe even write it out in a little more detail).
post #1188 of 1615
Sorry to be a pain and ask again but I just need somebody to confirm that I will be fine using this fbr fix on my uk PS51D8000 with downgraded 1015 firmware.

As far as I can tell it will be fine but I don't see the model listed in the first post.

I hope to apply the fix after work today so would be really grateful is somebody could help me out?

Thanks in advance!
post #1189 of 1615
post #1190 of 1615
Larry, those edits refer to the 5 series plasmas. Mine is an 8 series. As far as I know just the same as Americas PN51D8000???

I think you misread my model?

Also that is for the firmware and not the fix.
post #1191 of 1615
Irvin,

You are correct. I did misread it.

Start at post 599 for the PSxxD8000 fix. http://www.avforums.com/forums/plasma-tvs/1539064-2011-d-series-samsung-firmware-issues-poor-pq.html

You'll find that it's the same fix as the one for the PNxxD8000.

Larry
post #1192 of 1615
Thanks Larry!! You are a star. I look forward to completing the fix at the end of my night shift!!
post #1193 of 1615
Quote:
Originally Posted by AvidHiker View Post

Sounds like you were already trying method 1.
Since you are at 1013, you will be able to install 1014.6 like I described above (this is your best bet). What's the problem?
If you want to upgrade to official firmware (1016.2) after installing 1014.6, that's fine. Just make sure your logic version has changed to confirm sucessful fix (mute-1-3-7-power, see the directions in the first post).

Okay followed your instructions and it worked I must have been using an extra folder as you suggested. The optimization occurred and it said it was successful but here is the result : I am now at 1014 instead of 1013 but my Logic Board SW version is 11-08-08. Do I need to try method 2 now since it is not 11-11-04 as the first post suggested? Thanks for your help.
post #1194 of 1615
Interesting, that's not a version number I've seen before. AFAIK, if the correct version (according to zoyd's list, 11-11-04 for you) is not displayed, then the fix has not been applied. You'll have to manually update with the remote emulator using method 2 (and DO NOT install the new firmware from Samsung, it will disable the remote).
post #1195 of 1615
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Originally Posted by LanceX View Post

heard theres new firmware 1027, any news on it?


Hey guys question. I fixed my brightness pops a while ago and have not upgraded firmware on either my 59D8000 or 51D8000 since. I guess the firmware on my tvs is still 1024.8. Can or should I update the tv's to a newer firmware or should I just leave them at their current setting permanently?

Again brightness pops were fixed with the usb sent by Samsung.
post #1196 of 1615
Sure, you can go ahead and update your firmware. The only risk this carries (at least for the D7000) is loosing the ability to use the service remote emulator. If you have no need for it, then no worries. Not sure if it has been blocked yet on the D8000 anyway.
post #1197 of 1615
Excellent thread and info! I successfully upgraded my D7000 from 1013 to 1014.6, and the logic board now shows the proper 11-11-04 version. I tested a few clips, and didn't see any pops. Perfect! smile.gif

Just a few questions:
1. Now that my FBr fix is in place, would installing 1016.2 erase the fix, or does version 1016.2 avoid changes to the logic board altogether?
2. What advantages would I gain by upgrading from 1014.6 to 1016.2? Conversely, what would I lose?

Big thanks to the OP and all who made it happen with research, links, and instructions!
post #1198 of 1615
See my response in the post above yours, the same applies to you. 1016.2 is supposed to offer a visible improvement in SD picture quality, so may be worth installing (I have yet to try it). The logic fix is PERMANENT, new firmware will not make any changes to it.
post #1199 of 1615
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Originally Posted by AvidHiker View Post

See my response in the post above yours, the same applies to you. 1016.2 is supposed to offer a visible improvement in SD picture quality, so may be worth installing (I have yet to try it). The logic fix is PERMANENT, new firmware will not make any changes to it.
awesome, thanks! I don't watch much SD, so I think I'll stick with 1014.6
post #1200 of 1615
Guys, I have PN59D6500, I'm still on FW 1013 and occasionally I notice brightness pops...is it worth to upgrade it to the latest 1016.2? What would be the benefits and potential risks? Do you know where are the release notes or changelogs for Samsung TV firmwares (I couldn't quickly find it on Samsung web site). Thanks!
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