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post #331 of 1202
This frankly is quite aggravating...
Where the hell has this box set been for the last 6+ years…?
Blu Ray has been available since June of 2006.
Now they've decided to release it on Blu Ray and we're all spinning on our eyebrows with anticipation.
If I had it my way, nobody would buy the damned set, just to send em a message.
Just so you know... Raiders of the Lost Ark is my favorite movie of all time.
When I finished building my dedicated home theater, the first movie I watched was Raiders.
I'm just frustrated that it took this long. Just ridiculous if you ask me...!
post #332 of 1202
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Originally Posted by LexInVA View Post

Raiders is the only film to be fully restored from beginning to end. Doom and Crusade seem to be new transfers from the film negatives that have been cleaned-up with color-correction and dirt removal and they are recycling the 5.1 audio masters from the DVD releases. Crystal Skull is the same as before.

They all have new masters, this is well known as we have pix of the old arse Lowry ones and the amazing Laser pacific ones
post #333 of 1202
If studios released all of their best titles in the first two years, what do you think they could release after that? It wouldn't make any commercial or resource sense to do something like that.
post #334 of 1202
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Originally Posted by suffolk112000 View Post

This frankly is quite aggravating...
Where the hell has this box set been for the last 6+ years…?
Blu Ray has been available since June of 2006.
Now they've decided to release it on Blu Ray and we're all spinning on our eyebrows with anticipation.
If I had it my way, nobody would buy the damned set, just to send em a message.
Just so you know... Raiders of the Lost Ark is my favorite movie of all time.
When I finished building my dedicated home theater, the first movie I watched was Raiders.
I'm just frustrated that it took this long. Just ridiculous if you ask me...!

I kinda dig the anticipation. RAIDERS is my all-time favorite flick, and the reason I'm working in the film biz. It came out when I was ten years old, and there was no instant gratification of a four-month-later video release. Movies were more special back then; seemed less like "product". Even though I've been eager to get RAIDERS on blu, I get a strange nostalgic wave when I'm made to wait like this. Looking forward to something is sometimes as fun as getting it!
post #335 of 1202
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Originally Posted by hazel_wu View Post

If studios released all of their best titles in the first two years, what do you think they could release after that? It wouldn't make any commercial or resource sense to do something like that.

Sure it would... its called making $$$.
That's why studios double dip continuously on re-releases of the popular movies.
In my opinion there is absolutely no excuse for these movies to be released at such a late stage in the lifecycle of Blu Ray.
post #336 of 1202
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Originally Posted by steel_breeze View Post

I kinda dig the anticipation. RAIDERS is my all-time favorite flick, and the reason I'm working in the film biz. It came out when I was ten years old, and there was no instant gratification of a four-month-later video release. Movies were more special back then; seemed less like "product". Even though I've been eager to get RAIDERS on blu, I get a strange nostalgic wave when I'm made to wait like this. Looking forward to something is sometimes as fun as getting it!


Don't get me wrong, I'm excited as well, but just think.... wouldn’t it have been better if you could have had that 'strange nostalgic feeling' at least 3 or 4 years earlier. wink.gif
post #337 of 1202
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Originally Posted by dcowboy7 View Post

So following that logic i would guess that if a jaws boxset of all 4 movies was coming out you would call it a single movie. biggrin.gif

I would. smile.gif

And if there was a Transformers boxed set... I'd call it "no movies." wink.gif
post #338 of 1202
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Originally Posted by suffolk112000 View Post

Sure it would... its called making $$$.
That's why studios double dip continuously on re-releases of the popular movies.
In my opinion there is absolutely no excuse for these movies to be released at such a late stage in the lifecycle of Blu Ray.

Probably had to do with getting all the ducks lined up in a row permission wise.
post #339 of 1202
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Originally Posted by LexInVA View Post

Raiders is the only film to be fully restored from beginning to end. Doom and Crusade seem to be new transfers from the film negatives that have been cleaned-up with color-correction and dirt removal and they are recycling the 5.1 audio masters from the DVD releases. Crystal Skull is the same as before.

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Originally Posted by dvdmike007 View Post

They all have new masters, this is well known as we have pix of the old arse Lowry ones and the amazing Laser pacific ones

True, but from what I understand, only Raiders (like Saving Private Ryan and Minority Report before it) got a new 6K to 4K Northlight scan of the neg and Baselight color grading in 4K... and Doom and Crusade were done by LaserPacific in 4K/2K around late 2008 and were supposed to be part of a 2009 boxset. Apparently Spielberg was so delighted with how Saving Private Ryan and Minority Report turned out (and Crystal Skull, of course) that he gave the go-ahead for a full Raiders restoration. He was unhappy with how it looked at 2K and it's partly why the box set was delayed (first in 2009, then in 2010) until now. You can essentially see what Doom and Crusade are going to look like at the start of the Crystal Skull "Return of a Legend" featurette.
post #340 of 1202
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Originally Posted by Maxwell Everett View Post

True, but from what I understand, only Raiders (like Saving Private Ryan and Minority Report before it) got a new 6K to 4K Northlight scan of the neg and Baselight color grading in 4K... and Doom and Crusade were done by LaserPacific in 4K/2K around late 2008 and were supposed to be part of a 2009 boxset. Apparently Spielberg was so delighted with how Saving Private Ryan and Minority Report turned out (and Crystal Skull, of course) that he gave the go-ahead for a full Raiders restoration. He was unhappy with how it looked at 2K and it's partly why the box set was delayed (first in 2009, then in 2010) until now. You can essentially see what Doom and Crusade are going to look like at the start of the Crystal Skull "Return of a Legend" featurette.

They are all state of the art and all look stunning in motion, maybe they are worried it will show up the Star Wars set!

http://www.avsforum.com/t/827529/blu-ray-hd-dvd-hd-broadcasts-h-264-mpeg-2-screenshots-big-files/2100#post_18556256
post #341 of 1202
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Originally Posted by suffolk112000 View Post

If I had it my way, nobody would buy the damned set, just to send em a message.

Funny thing is, I still don't own any Star Wars on blu, and I held out on Alien and Aliens until the individual releases, but I've never actually seen Crystal Skull, and I can't hate it sight unseen to the point where I boycott this. I'm in, day one biggrin.gif
post #342 of 1202
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Originally Posted by suffolk112000 View Post

This frankly is quite aggravating...
Where the hell has this box set been for the last 6+ years…?
Blu Ray has been available since June of 2006.
Now they've decided to release it on Blu Ray and we're all spinning on our eyebrows with anticipation.
If I had it my way, nobody would buy the damned set, just to send em a message.
Just so you know... Raiders of the Lost Ark is my favorite movie of all time.
When I finished building my dedicated home theater, the first movie I watched was Raiders.
I'm just frustrated that it took this long. Just ridiculous if you ask me...!

All of these big releases take years. It took six years for Indy to hit DVD and now the same for Blu. The sales theory is, you wait until the format base has matured before releasing the big titles to maximize sales; do it before then and sales will not be as good. Happens to most big movies.

I am glad they waited this long because if this were released in 2006 as you wished, it would likely not be as good from a PQ standpoint as encoding and mastering techniques have improved.
post #343 of 1202
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Originally Posted by Greg_R_STL View Post

Funny thing is, I still don't own any Star Wars on blu, and I held out on Alien and Aliens until the individual releases, but I've never actually seen Crystal Skull, and I can't hate it sight unseen to the point where I boycott this. I'm in, day one biggrin.gif

We're alike in that regard except I've seen Crystal Skull and I didn't really hate it at all. It had some groan worthy moments but really as a movie I wasn't disappointed. I already have it on BD but I'll sell it once this set comes out, for sure. It might be the worst of the 4 movies but if that's as bad as it gets then man we've been fortunate. It could have been worse, it could have been....Promethius. Ahh!!!....

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post #344 of 1202
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It had some groan worthy moments but really as a movie I wasn't disappointed.

So if you weren't disappointed, then apparently you expected it to have "groan worthy moments"? The film is awful, pure and simple. A total failure on nearly every level.
post #345 of 1202
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Originally Posted by DM2006RI View Post

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It had some groan worthy moments but really as a movie I wasn't disappointed.
So if you weren't disappointed, then apparently you expected it to have "groan worthy moments"? The film is awful, pure and simple. A total failure on nearly every level.

Truer words have not been spoken. biggrin.gif
post #346 of 1202
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When the possibility of revisiting Indy via a fifth installment in the franchise was broached, and one enthused fan whooped from the audience, Spielberg (with a tongue-in-cheek understanding of his fan base) quipped “I think that’s the one we didn’t alienate with the fourth” to which Boucher responded (in essence) “I think that’s Shia.”

Source:
http://screenrant.com/indiana-jones-5-raiders-lost-ark-anniversary-rothc-131609/
post #347 of 1202
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Originally Posted by dvdmike007 View Post

They are all state of the art and all look stunning in motion, maybe they are worried it will show up the Star Wars set!
http://www.avsforum.com/t/827529/blu-ray-hd-dvd-hd-broadcasts-h-264-mpeg-2-screenshots-big-files/2100#post_18556256

Thanks for the info, will pre-order the UK boxset.
post #348 of 1202
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Originally Posted by amoergosum View Post

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When the possibility of revisiting Indy via a fifth installment in the franchise was broached, and one enthused fan whooped from the audience, Spielberg (with a tongue-in-cheek understanding of his fan base) quipped “I think that’s the one we didn’t alienate with the fourth” to which Boucher responded (in essence) “I think that’s Shia.”
Source:
http://screenrant.com/indiana-jones-5-raiders-lost-ark-anniversary-rothc-131609/

Funny, but even La Beouf has publicly admitted that he thought Crystal Skull sucked.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/movies/2010/05/shia-labeouf-wall-street-2-indiana-jones-steven-spielberg.html
post #349 of 1202
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Originally Posted by Maxwell Everett View Post

True, but from what I understand, only Raiders (like Saving Private Ryan and Minority Report before it) got a new 6K to 4K Northlight scan of the neg and Baselight color grading in 4K... and Doom and Crusade were done by LaserPacific in 4K/2K around late 2008 and were supposed to be part of a 2009 boxset. Apparently Spielberg was so delighted with how Saving Private Ryan and Minority Report turned out (and Crystal Skull, of course) that he gave the go-ahead for a full Raiders restoration. He was unhappy with how it looked at 2K and it's partly why the box set was delayed (first in 2009, then in 2010) until now. You can essentially see what Doom and Crusade are going to look like at the start of the Crystal Skull "Return of a Legend" featurette.
Good point this. I'd rather wait six years and get something stunning, then have Raiders be a release title and look like ass. Some of my favorite 80's movies are still to be released in definitive editions on Blu-ray (T1 and T2 among them). I much prefer the "wait until it's perfect" route rather than the all too typical route of

  1. Release a version sourced from a DVD 2K scan from 12 years ago
  2. Release a DNR scrubbed version of #1, and call it a "remaster" (like Predator)
  3. Release a true remaster from a modern 4K+ scan of the OCN.
post #350 of 1202
German set

600

German Steelbook

640

Pre-order Zippo lighter

600

Why can they not use the rejected DVD art frown.gif


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post #351 of 1202
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Originally Posted by dvdmike007 View Post

German set

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Pre-order Zippo lighter

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How the heck does that tie in with Indy? At least the Scarface humidor made a little bit of sense. Too funny.
post #352 of 1202
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Originally Posted by Jamie E View Post

How the heck does that tie in with Indy? At least the Scarface humidor made a little bit of sense. Too funny.

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post #353 of 1202
I've seen Crystal Skull and I didn't really hate it at all.

I can't see the blind hatred for Crystal Skull, other than because everyone is remembering the first three from the rose-colored lenses of youth, and by the time of #3 the hate Lucas cult was firmly established.

People seem to love Last Crusade, which I found dull and simply a retooling of the first film.
post #354 of 1202
RAIDERS is the only masterpiece.

KOTSC sits fine with TOD and LC as enjoyable action adventure films.
post #355 of 1202
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Originally Posted by LordAwesome View Post

RAIDERS is the only masterpiece.
KOTCS sits fine with TOD and LC as enjoyable action adventure films.


KOTCS was IMHO a complete joke in comparison to the other three. I'm not a Crusade lover myself, but it holds up a lot better than the last bomb.

Most of the cast didn't like the last one either. They knew it was a turkey. It's like comparing Superman III, turned into a Richard Pryer comedy for godsake (!!!), and Superman IV: The Quest for Peace to even Superman II with all its famous problems.
post #356 of 1202
Come on now. Be sensible. There' s more directorial brilliance in the opening scene alone than there is in any of the two later Superman sequels put together - or most summer blockbusters these days.
post #357 of 1202
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Originally Posted by LordAwesome View Post

Come on now. Be sensible. There' s more directorial brilliance in the opening scene alone than there is in any of the two later Superman sequels put together - or most summer blockbusters these days.

The first scene is a homage to (or crib of) George Lucas' American Graffiti. If only the entire film was as brilliant as that short sequence. But alas...

Part of Skull's problem is that Spielberg and Lucas are not the same as they once were in the 70's and early 80's. That was their peak. After watching War Horse, that thought was cemented in my conscience. It was great for a Walt Disney live action film (slap that famous Cinderella castle logo on the front and you'd never know the difference), but as a return to early Spielberg greatness... not even close. Then there was Tin-Tin... eegads!!
Edited by Dan Hitchman - 7/4/12 at 10:55am
post #358 of 1202
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Originally Posted by Dan Hitchman View Post

KOTCS was IMHO a complete joke in comparison to the other three. I'm not a Crusade lover myself, but it holds up a lot better than the last bomb.
Most of the cast didn't like the last one either. They knew it was a turkey. It's like comparing Superman III, turned into a Richard Pryer comedy for godsake (!!!), and Superman IV: The Quest for Peace to even Superman II with all its famous problems.

Agreed.
post #359 of 1202
I likes 'em all. Raiders is a classic, Temple is the only one that isn't chasing Raiders, I love the cringe-worthy humour in Last Crusade ("I've gone and caught a sniffle!") and I dig the paranoiac '50s vibe of Crystal Skull. The latter isn't as good as any of its predecessors, but I simply settle in and enjoy the ride for what it is.

The boxset - plain version, no frills - will be mine. Oh yes.
post #360 of 1202
I hope we get more info fast as these sequel wars posts are getting tired
Edited by dvdmike007 - 7/4/12 at 3:26pm
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