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post #151 of 1142
"We do not focus on technology specs," Nintendo told Yahoo's Digital Trends in response to rumoured developer unrest about the processing power of the Wii U. "We understand that people like to dissect graphics and processing power, but the experience of playing will always be more important than raw numbers."

In putting together this feature and emulating the cream of the Wii's library at full HD, one thing becomes abundantly clear: what many describe as a cop-out response to developer gripes that the Wii U isn't technologically competitive with PS3 and Xbox 360 is anything but. Nintendo makes its own games to its own impeccable standards and raw playability is the primary focus. In terms of visual accomplishment, the videos on this page demonstrate that the firm is more than capable of producing experiences that belie the specs of the hardware hosting them.

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This section concerns me immensely.

First, nintendo's comment about 'gameplay > numbers' is quaint and all but when numbers determine the limits of the gameplay then the argument flies out the window. It's a cop out. Further, it's an indication that Nintendo still has not learned their lesson. Had they come out and said: 'look, wii u is plenty powerful and devs just need time to learn the machine-- is it a powerhouse? No, but neither was the wii and last time we checked we sold about a bajillion of those so STFU.' -- I would have respected that a lot more than: 'hey man, we're all about the GAMEPLAY...'

Second, the argument that wii U will be fine because Nintendo can make awesome games for it is also a cop out and may also be an indication that Nintendo still has their head up their ass.
Nintendo: we all know you make great games. But we also know that you can only make 5-6 games a year. Bottom line: you NEED 3rd party support. You need other people helping you to make your system great! Remember N64? Remember GameCube? Remember the sudden and drastic falloff of the Wii? 3rd party support can change all that! For the love of god-- GET THE DEVS ON YOUR SIDE!

I don't want another GameCube: a system that sits and collects dust between Nintendo releases!
post #152 of 1142
At the end of a generation Nintendo usually has my favorite lineup of games for that gen. PS3 won this one, but not by much. Getting to that point however is a long wait between quality games and it sucks.
post #153 of 1142
Here is an old post from the Other M topic with some Dolphin screenshots.

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Originally Posted by voodoozen View Post

I'm loving this game. The cutscenes are fine, a bit dramatic but I don't mind them at all. The controls are great, no problems past my own limited gaming skillz... And the worlds are really amazing- graphics look great as is, but it got me to thinking about what they might look like on Dolphin... sure enough, someone's done it, and it's unreal. Too bad the cutscenes don't render (screen apparently goes black), because this is beautiful

Some highlights:











And this is the comparison between Dolphin and Wii (the aliasing makes me cry inside for a WiiHD)

post #154 of 1142
Nintendo is having a pre e3 show tomorrow afternoon on their website showing off the U. Should be interesting.

Edit: Now that I'm at a computer, it's at 3 pacific. Link
post #155 of 1142
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Originally Posted by Monger View Post

Nintendo is having a pre e3 show tomorrow afternoon on their website showing off the U. Should be interesting.

It seems to be aimed at the hardware. Should be interesting if they announce the specs...
post #156 of 1142
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Originally Posted by PENDRAG0ON View Post

It seems to be aimed at the hardware. Should be interesting if they announce the specs...

Nah. They won't do that.

It does open up the door for third parties to talk about/show their stuff on Monday though. Plus maybe they'll show something interesting.
post #157 of 1142
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Originally Posted by Monger View Post


Nah. They won't do that.

It does open up the door for third parties to talk about/show their stuff on Monday though. Plus maybe they'll show something interesting.

That it does. Maybe this is why they went last for their show. Reveal the basics Sunday, let the third parties show all their stuff Monday, and have their big blowout on Tuesday.
post #158 of 1142
Updating as the show goes on.

Buttons Click!

Wii U pad is also a TV remote.

Motion and Gyro sensors.

Wii U Pro controller. (wtf on that stick layout, it's interesting having both sticks in that layout...)

Online help system built into the OS.

Video Chat.

A Mii version of Facebook? Looks like it at least. MiiVerse. 3ds, pc, and phone versions coming post launch.
post #159 of 1142
WTF, an IR remote? Kind of a waste. NFC could be neat in the same way that the AR cards are though.

Also, an actual controller option too in the Pro controller. I didn't expect that really.

Did he really just say that the online features they're demoing won't be available until a period after launch? Hearing that is getting a little tiring, so I hope I misheard.
post #160 of 1142
The Wii U drawn message technology is going to allow for some cutting edge "penis message" technology. Pictochat 2.0!
post #161 of 1142
The menu looks pretty great in general. I really like that Pro Controller too. It's exactly a 360 gamepad with the right stick/buttons swapped.
post #162 of 1142
Interwebs browser on the gamepad! That will give people the primary use of my iPad in the living room.
post #163 of 1142
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Originally Posted by darklordjames View Post

Interwebs browser on the gamepad! That will give people the primary use of my iPad in the living room.

Yeah, I don't know about that internet stuff on this. Anything they demoed today can really be done better with a separate tablet and game console with DLNA or AirPlay or whatever, depending on which ecosystem you're in. I'm hoping that during their full conference they'll show a compelling way that this can be useful, but as of right now I'm underwhelmed. I mean, at this point, I really think they should just be focusing on the "gaming only" message that they initially said with the GameCube. The other stuff is just done better on so many other devices.

I'll reserve judgment on how it will end up, but I don't know so far.
post #164 of 1142
Can be done with AirPlay? Yes, absolutely. But then I need to have a $100 TV adapter and a $500 phone/tablet to do that.

DLNA? Pff! DLNA is half-functional garbage that creates more problems than it solves. The simple fact that you have to know what codecs you can run where forever relegates DLNA to the fringe tweaker crowd. What the Wii U is showing solves that problem, just as the 360's shift to internet streaming video has over the last three years.

Being able to hop on a wiki or IMDB while watching a show though? It's simple and easy for cheap hardware to do and solves a lot of knowledge problems in the average living room. Yes, my iPad will do it better so I won't use it myself, but it will be of high value to the vast majority of non-tablet households.
post #165 of 1142
I saw nothing about the Wii U's gamepad being able to act as a tv remote control. All I saw was mention of the button you'll hit to switch the Wii U's video output between tv and the tablet's screen.

Doesn't sound like a bad idea if true. I have no complaints about being able to do something like adjusting my tv's volume level directly from my controller.

I think I'm going to wish I could use this new Pro Controller on both my 360 and PS3. Looks like the best of Microsoft's controller combined with a Nintendo d-pad.
post #166 of 1142
Give them half on hour. Game journalists are terrible at their jobs, so you have to be patient with them.
post #167 of 1142
Kotaku has it all up as of 10 minutes ago.
post #168 of 1142
I found some information about the Pro Controller at least. Seems like the most interesting news to come out of today.
post #169 of 1142
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Originally Posted by Leo_Ames View Post

I found some information about the Pro Controller at least. Seems like the most interesting news to come out of today.

Satisfies the CoD crowd at least. Just as I predicted, now to see if it is a pack in (less likely since the U pad has full controls now)

This might be my new favorite controller design, the GCN still holds that honor for now...
post #170 of 1142
Looking at it, the Pro Controller is just the gamepad with the screen removed. Same layout. Should be lighter in the long run. I wonder if it still has the motion support or if that gets stripped out too?
post #171 of 1142
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Originally Posted by darklordjames View Post

Looking at it, the Pro Controller is just the gamepad with the screen removed. Same layout. Should be lighter in the long run. I wonder if it still has the motion support or if that gets stripped out too?

It should still have the motion (the 3DS has it, so I see no reason to exclude it unless it requires the screen in every single game that uses motion controls)

I wonder how much this thing will cost...
post #172 of 1142
Threw up an official E3 thread, thought it might be more appropriate if there's 3DS and WiiU news.

not that we needed one yet, but just in case. Interesting "PrE-3' though
post #173 of 1142
"Interesting "PrE-3' though"

PrE3 is the stupidest thing that the gaming press has invented this year. Please don't bring that garbage here.

In addition, we seem to be talking about Wii U E3 news just fine in this thread. Why split the user base?
post #174 of 1142
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Originally Posted by darklordjames View Post

"Interesting "PrE-3' though"

PrE3 is the stupidest thing that the gaming press has invented this year. Please don't bring that garbage here.

In addition, we seem to be talking about Wii U E3 news just fine in this thread. Why split the user base?

Like my grandmother used to say, "You're just too gosh darn cute to be so angry! Now quit bitching and eat your brussel sprouts."

Just because we have threads for WiiU and 3DS doesn't mean we'll all be checking both. I for one intent to spam the crap out of just one thread with news, we can reconvene afterwards back here with WiiU thoughts.

Did the thread title suck too much? I went for 'useless waste of characters', but it does have a 'why, dude, why?" ring to it...
post #175 of 1142
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Originally Posted by jhoff80 View Post

WTF, an IR remote? Kind of a waste. NFC could be neat in the same way that the AR cards are though.

Also, an actual controller option too in the Pro controller. I didn't expect that really.

Did he really just say that the online features they're demoing won't be available until a period after launch? Hearing that is getting a little tiring, so I hope I misheard.

Pretty certain he was referring to the ability of having the MiiVerse on devices beside the WiiU. Like an Ipod and other mobile devices that have web browsing device.
post #176 of 1142
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Originally Posted by Schloob1 View Post

Pretty certain he was referring to the ability of having the MiiVerse on devices beside the WiiU. Like an Ipod and other mobile devices that have web browsing device.

Oh, that makes much more sense. We've had to wait too long for a 'proper' gaming experience on the other Nintendo systems for that to be the case this time.
post #177 of 1142
Well, so far so good. Give the Wii U a Skyrim port that outdoes the current console versions and I will be buying a U at launch.
post #178 of 1142
All of that social stuff just seems crazy. You're going to ask some dude for help with a game, and youre going to get called a ****** and maybe even get a live action shot of their junk.
post #179 of 1142
I want that pro controller... NOW!!!
post #180 of 1142
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Originally Posted by sage11x View Post

I want that pro controller... NOW!!!

Seems like it's only for multiplatform games and legacy/ported stuff, at least there was no mention of BW compatability specifically. I read that as "not all devs want to include screen functionality" rather than "we're gonna let you play DKCR with traditional controls", sadly.

Love to be wrong, but not getting hopes up.


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Originally Posted by Iwata View Post

For those who are mainly interested in multiplatform games, with more traditional means of control, we will also offer the Wii U Pro Controller as a separate [play style], which is lighter and maybe more attractive for longer, more intense forms of gaming.
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