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post #601 of 1288
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Originally Posted by juanej View Post

thank you very much, I'm currently using your settings with Red: 14 Green: -12 Blue: -10 and v and h sharpness on 10, I can say I'm very happy with the results

Cool. I would recommend getting the WOW disc if for no other reason that the 2nd disc called Visions.

It has some great scenes of nature. If you had a crappy day you can stick it in and just Zen out and relax.
post #602 of 1288
Just to show You how my new 50P6500 looks like on my wall;-)
Loving this big boy. All the best from Poland!

post #603 of 1288
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Originally Posted by wallijonn View Post

Why not try the Colour Wash utility built into the set? As it rotates to the right and down it should turn on/off all pixels.

Thanks. Yea, I have my Wife doing exactly that during the day while she leaves it unattended but on for whatever reason. But I have not "trained' her to also set ISM Mode back to Orbiter afterwards as it defaults back to Standard after using the Color Wash.

No idea why LG saw fit set it that way and hope they will alter it in a future software update. Myself, I won't have it at Standard with a PDP. We as plasma owners should unite and call for an outright ban on static station/channel identifiers most channels now display on screen. Or at a minimum change their locations onscreen regularly.

She doesn't care to view the color wash screen as she's often times susceptible to vertigo and migraines from the likes of it. Same as the boot screen on both our Xoom's with ICS, she deplores that too. Turns away from both.

Unfortunately, her patience (and shortly thereafter mine too if you know what I mean) expired while repeatedly attempting to make her cognizant of the steps involved it starting/stopping the break-in slides on USB. rolleyes.gif
post #604 of 1288
Hello everyone.

I picked up a LG 50PA6500 for $700 three weeks ago from ABC Warehouse and since then have logged about 300 hours into it. It was my first HDTV purchase and my first plasma purchase. I gotta say, it's an incredible TV, except for one problem I've been having. I'm experiencing a lot of color banding and it has become extremely annoying because it's quite noticeable while watching things, especially anime which I do a whole lot of. It's not the source files that have the issues because they look fine on my LCD computer monitors. The TV is hooked up to only my HTPC; I don't watch over the air television. My media player is configured correctly, so it's not that because it's happening all the time, like with pictures or Youtube videos. I've been changing settings in the AMD Catalyst to see if that was the problem but nothing has changed. I ran the Picture Wizard and my configuration settings for the TV are:

Contrast: 94
Brightness: 48
Sharpness: 20/20
Color: 48
Tint: 0
Dynamic Contrast : Off
Gamma: Medium
Black Level: Low
Color Gamut: Wide
Edge Enhancer: Off
Color Temperature: Medium
Method: 2 Points
Pattern: Outer
Points: High
Red: 14
Green: -12
Blue: -10


I've also been changing the TV settings around but again, nothing has changed. Is this a defect or is it supposed to look this bad]? I took some pictures of a color gradient to try and show you guys what my problem is, but I couldn't get a great shot but it still captured the color banding I was having.

Thanks in advance.

post #605 of 1288
your colors are way off causing the bands
do a grayscale calibration
20 points ire can help
post #606 of 1288
hi guys.Just got the 50pa6500-tf.just calibrated the pic is awesome.my connection is as follows;toshiba laptop via hdmi to av receiver via hdmi to tv.Was using the lg 42pj650-everything was ok.but with this set-as i am watching a video it blacks out temporarily(1sec) and comes on.its irritating.hav done the renaming thing to pc but still doing it.Help
post #607 of 1288
Hello,

just wanted to ask, if I should be worried when watching movies with subtitles during break-in period while keeping all the recommended settings (low brightness and contrast, full screen content, avoiding static images etc.). Thanks for help.
post #608 of 1288
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Originally Posted by grnbd View Post

I just reached 200 hours and went through the calibration process again, this time using the Disney WOW disk. I heard such great things about it I decided to give it a try. I think the Disney disk is better than the Spears and Munsil in ease of use and the test patterns are easier to work with. I got the following using the WOW disk at 200.
Power Save :off
Aspect Ratio : just scan
Picture Mode : expert 1
Contrast : 88
Brightness : 48
H sharpness : 23
V sharpness : 16
Color : 53
Tint : 0
Dynamic Contrast : off
Noise Reduction : off
Gama : medium
Black Level : low
Color Gamut : wide
Edge Enhancer : off
Color Temp : medium
Method : 2 points
Pattern : outer
Points : high
Color Management all 0
Everyone's eye is different and what works for one person may not work for others. It's always nice when people posts their settings, it gives you a starting point.
In the end everyone's opinion is different and every set off of the line will have subtle variances. In other words use what works for you, and if it gets out of hand then you can always hit the reset and start again.



When you used the Disney WOW disk are there any other areas in the settings that it addresses that make up your picture? If not can we manually set our TV to these setting and get the same picture result?

Thanks
Gerald
post #609 of 1288
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Originally Posted by rb1213 View Post

your colors are way off causing the bands
do a grayscale calibration
20 points ire can help

How would I go about doing a greyscale calibration?
post #610 of 1288
Here is the way I did it on a 42pa4500 .
In the Expert setting go to Pattern set it to inner.This will give you a gray screen .
You have to do points Low and points high .
Start with low , this gives a dark gray . Then do high this gives a light gray .
You will need to do both .
There should not be any color tint to the gray sceens .
If you move say red to the right you willsee it in the gray then move it back to the left and you will see the red tint fade .
Do this with red blue and green . Practice a while and you will get the hang of it .
You must set them in both points High and Low .
When you are happy that there is no tint to both grays you are done .I suggest doing it . Then awhile latter check again .
Also turn the contrst to abought 80 and the brightness to abought 60 when doing this .
Have fun

I forgot set method to 2 points .
My settings are
Low red -14 , green -14 ,blue -10
High red-15 , green - 12 , blue - 8
I have made slight changes for different inputs.
Edited by wallydog - 8/18/12 at 5:46pm
post #611 of 1288
hey guys,sorted out the blanking issue.Tried a high speed HDMI and the problem disappeared.now I have two gray strips-one at the top and the one at the bottom.clearly noticeable when watching a full screen video with dark parts.Any idea on how to get rid of them?
post #612 of 1288
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Originally Posted by ghice View Post


When you used the Disney WOW disk are there any other areas in the settings that it addresses that make up your picture? If not can we manually set our TV to these setting and get the same picture result?
Thanks
Gerald

There are more advanced patterns that the disk said is for professional calibration.

Not sure how useful they can be without a calibration tool. Without that your still eye balling it.
post #613 of 1288
Is your Dynamic Contrast set on Off, Low, Medium or High? Is your Gamma set on Low, Medium or High? I take it that if your gamma is set to high then you will need to turn down the Contrast. And if it set on Low you will probably need to turn down the Brightness. You may also need to turn off Colour Gamut. Otherwise keep adjusting the Contrast until there is no blanking out - try lowering it to about 80.
post #614 of 1288
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Originally Posted by wallijonn View Post

Is your Dynamic Contrast set on Off, Low, Medium or High? Is your Gamma set on Low, Medium or High? I take it that if your gamma is set to high then you will need to turn down the Contrast. And if it set on Low you will probably need to turn down the Brightness. You may also need to turn off Colour Gamut. Otherwise keep adjusting the Contrast until there is no blanking out - try lowering it to about 80.

I have played around with thee contrast and settings also, but that blanking out stays no matter what if I have the brightness at 49 or under. In most cases, I have followed the calibration suggestions posted on this thread. The blanking does disappear when you turn black level high, but then the screen looks awful.
post #615 of 1288
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Originally Posted by ghice View Post


When you used the Disney WOW disk are there any other areas in the settings that it addresses that make up your picture? If not can we manually set our TV to these setting and get the same picture result?
Thanks
Gerald

after a week of my 60pa6500 sitting on my dining room table running the 120 slide break in for 95 hours i hung it on the wall today. ran wizard II and just about bang on to the settings grnbd posted. ordered the wow disc and will play with it next weekend after it arrives and see if anything changes. but at the moment with just watching directv broadcast i am impressed. upgraded from a panny tc-p50x1 that i liked a lot. but this picture looks a lot better....
post #616 of 1288
I have the 60PA6500 and like the set very much. I moved the Panasonic 50" TCPS1 upstairs to the bedroom to make room for the 60". Will someone with the same set perform a test that would help me out? I have the LG linked to my Harman Kardon receiver via toslink. If I'm watching a Blu Ray, for example, and I turn off the Blu Ray but leave the HK and LG on, when the LG "No Input" Screensaver comes on, the HK puts out a loud noise that sounds like radio static trying to be tuned in. It occurs exactly when the LG cube screensaver comes up. I'm trying to figure out if this is the inherent design of the set or a glitch with my unit. Again, the receiver must be hooked up via toslink and left on and set to the input that was previously playing the input but now isn't receiving a signal. Thanks in advance for helping me figure this mystery out!
post #617 of 1288
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Originally Posted by jumby181 View Post

after a week of my 60pa6500 sitting on my dining room table running the 120 slide break in for 95 hours i hung it on the wall today. ran wizard II and just about bang on to the settings grnbd posted. ordered the wow disc and will play with it next weekend after it arrives and see if anything changes. but at the moment with just watching directv broadcast i am impressed. upgraded from a panny tc-p50x1 that i liked a lot. but this picture looks a lot better....


Will you update us on how much improvement the WOW disks makes to your picture over your current settings from just running the Picture Wizard II.

Thanks
Gerald
post #618 of 1288
I've read through this entire thread and want to thank all for the information. There is a lot of information on this thread and it can a little overwhelming to the novice.

I'm about to pick up the 60" for $898 at local Sams but wanted to be prepared prior to bringing it home. I don't recall reading where the slides and or disc would come from. I've looked at the LG website and there is no mention of it there. Does this come with the TV? Also, is it recommended that you run the slides and disc after the burn in period?

Thanks!
post #619 of 1288
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Originally Posted by Bryan Sanders View Post

If I'm watching a Blu Ray, for example, and I turn off the Blu Ray but leave the HK and LG on, when the LG "No Input" Screensaver comes on, the HK puts out a loud noise that sounds like radio static trying to be tuned in.

I think the HDMI protocols on the LG could be better - I get a "pop" when returning to a movie, or when turning off the PS3. Your best bet may be to be quick and change back to broadcast TV as soon as you turn off a piece of equipment.
post #620 of 1288
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Originally Posted by awakened77 View Post

... should I be worried when watching movies with subtitles during break-in period while keeping all the recommended settings (low brightness and contrast, full screen content, avoiding static images etc.).

With plasma you never pause a movie and leave it on screen - if you do, change over to Broadcast TV or turn on the Screen Clean. The LG manual says not to leave an image for more than two hours but there will be slight IR if the source is paused for more than 10 seconds. It washes away in a minute or so, though.

I have put over 500 hours on my set and I use the Screen Wash religiously when watching movies - whenever I take a break (whenever I pause the movie).
post #621 of 1288
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Originally Posted by ghice View Post

Will you update us on how much improvement the WOW disks makes to your picture over your current settings from just running the Picture Wizard II.
Thanks
Gerald

would be happy to.
post #622 of 1288
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Originally Posted by kkeidl View Post

I've read through this entire thread and want to thank all for the information. There is a lot of information on this thread and it can a little overwhelming to the novice.
I'm about to pick up the 60" for $898 at local Sams but wanted to be prepared prior to bringing it home. I don't recall reading where the slides and or disc would come from. I've looked at the LG website and there is no mention of it there. Does this come with the TV? Also, is it recommended that you run the slides and disc after the burn in period?
Thanks!

i just did a search for the file name and came up with this and downloaded the 120 image file. put it on a usb drive and ran them off of it as a slideshow set to repeat on slow.

http://www.avforums.com/forums/10606644-post424.html
post #623 of 1288
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Originally Posted by wallijonn View Post

I think the HDMI protocols on the LG could be better - I get a "pop" when returning to a movie, or when turning off the PS3. Your best bet may be to be quick and change back to broadcast TV as soon as you turn off a piece of equipment.

The problem isn't with the HDMI input, only toslink to the receiver. Switching inputs immediately after turning a device off is the easy solution, but I'm still well within the Costco return period and want to determine if this is the design of the set. If more than one person could check their PA6500, it would give some good insight into this issue.
post #624 of 1288
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Originally Posted by Bryan Sanders View Post

The problem isn't with the HDMI input, only toslink to the receiver. Switching inputs immediately after turning a device off is the easy solution, but I'm still well within the Costco return period and want to determine if this is the design of the set. If more than one person could check their PA6500, it would give some good insight into this issue.

What is your blu-ray player hooked to and with what connections?
post #625 of 1288
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Originally Posted by jumby181 View Post

would be happy to.

From what I've read here is that people who use the Wizard II and then compare it to the WOW disk, the Wizard gets you almost spot on to what you get from the WOW disk.

I prefer using the WOW disk because i prefer test patterns rather then the good/bad picture system of the Wizard II.

I do think the WOW disk will help in nailing down H and V sharpness compared to the Wizard.

Plus the WOW disk has some other content that is pretty cool, and worth the $25 in my opinion.

I'm still thinking about if i want to fork out the cash for a Pro calibration.

Busch Home Theater is supposed to be one of the best in the SF Bay Area from what I have read on various boards.

He charges $500. I've never had a pro calibration done, so I'm wondering if the guy is over charging in my area.

Anyone in the SF Bay Area with some expierience with calibrators in the area and pricing?
post #626 of 1288
My 6550's picture is among the best I've ever seen using both the Wizard and WOW, so why oh why would you shell out $500 for calibration for a TV that costs $900?
post #627 of 1288
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Originally Posted by Builder 2010 View Post

My 6550's picture is among the best I've ever seen using both the Wizard and WOW, so why oh why would you shell out $500 for calibration for a TV that costs $900?

Like I said I'm just thinking about it because of the price tag. It's not like I think the PQ is bad, it's great.

I'm willing to pay a certain amount for the peace of mind that I have the best PQ possible, it's just that $500 price tag......yikes!
Edited by grnbd - 8/20/12 at 9:02pm
post #628 of 1288
I read through this thread from start to finish and decided to order a 50" 6500. Was seriously considering a Panny st, but read a bunch of complaints about picture quality watching hockey.
So i figured, if hockey wouldn't be good on the Panny, why not spend half as much and get the LG. I'm using a 32" Sony wega, so anything will be a huge upgrade.
post #629 of 1288
hi guys,the pic quality on thus panel is excellent.Was weighing between samsung 55ES8000(usd3000) and the 50PA6500(usd1100). Am glad went with the cheaper option.Currently watching "Predator-720p" and the jungle is excellent.WOW:eek:
My settings are
contrast 75
brightness 52
h sharp 39
v sharp 39
color 50
tint 0
dynamic contrast off
noise low
super res off
gamma medium
black level low
color gamut standard
edge off
color filter off
color temp warm
method 20 point ire

IRE, R, G, B
5,-5,-3,8
10, 5,0,22
15,0,-1,9
20,4,0,34
25,-2,-1,32
30,4,0,8
35,-1,-1,50
40,-3,0,32
45,-8,-1,27
50,-9,0,26
55,-6,0,23
60,-5,0,13
65,-4,0,28
70,-4,0,33
75,-8,0,38
80,0,0,34
85,-11,0,50
90,-6,0,22
95,-5,0,18
100,-6,0,15
power saving medium
Anyone thinking of buying it-go for it!!! You wont be disappointed.My model is 50PA6500-TF;anyone knows lg support site for this particular model
post #630 of 1288
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Originally Posted by Drahthaar View Post

What is your blu-ray player hooked to and with what connections?

Sony Blu Ray is hooked up to the HK receiver for audio with toslink and HDMI out to LG 60PA6550 (HK is older with no HDMI). That's not the problem though. The issue occurs when an input has been playing and I have the HK set to Video 4, which is the input for the toslink optical coming from the LG. As soon as the LG Screensaver comes up, the LG sends the super loud frequency sound out to the HK via optical. I'd really appreciate someone trying to replicate this situation so I can put this to rest.
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