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post #751 of 1288
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Originally Posted by wallijonn View Post

I burned in my last 42" Pani plasma correctly and it ended up with severe IR and because of the black crush I had to keep decreasing brightness as it aged. >500 hours in on the LG and I see no IR. That was not the case with the Pani. I was all set to live with IR on the LG - it happened before, on the Pani, but at least this time around I didn't pay $1500, so if it burned in at least I wasn't losing as much money in the process.
As to burning it in Vivid mode, I question having the brightness at 55 since >50 causes dithering. On my old Pani I turned up the brightness until it, the power supply, started to sing/buzz then backed off one click. On the LG I turned up the brightness until there was dithering, then backed off one click. Was the number 55 specifically cited for the LG, or was it for a Pani or Sammy or Sharp?

55 was originally quoted by D-Nice for the Panasonic series. I played around with the brightness setting on the LG and didn't notice much of a difference on the individual slides on anything from 50-60. With normal content, the difference is very noticeable, and I normally don't go above 48.
post #752 of 1288
I'm still confused about the slides. Where do they come from if they're not a disc included with the set. My 6550 from sams came with 03.01.06 and the lg rep indicated on the phone that it's plug and play and no breakin needed. I'm not sure if I still should or could continue with breakin methods described here, and as mentioned, I have no idea where I would get the slides described here.

Otherwis, the pq is great. I've tweaked it and satisfied. But any input is appreciated.

Thanks.
post #753 of 1288
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Originally Posted by jlathe View Post

Is it possible to change video settings through USB playback? I've got my TV settings (HDMI) calibrated using ISF, but when I try to change video settings while watching a movie through USB, it only gives me Standard, Vivid and Movie.
Also, has anyone been able to successfully update their firmware? I've tried to create a LG_DTV folder, and put the firmware inside, but the TV won't find the firmware.
Thanks

You Must check your complete model number, via Settings - Red Button - Product Info. Mine for example is 50PA6500-ZA. The Firmware file is different depending on your version.

I googled the entire model number and it took me to the correct LG Support Page where you can download the firmware.

I think USB streaming limits the video settings you can choose. It also limits the RATIO of the picture, i was watching a movie via USB and i only had ORIGINAL and ZOOM ( i think this was the name ). So for now, i will keep streaming my movies via PS3 Media Server, in which i have a lot more options to the image RATIO, letting me hide the bars if i want.
post #754 of 1288
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Originally Posted by kkeidl View Post

I'm still confused about the slides. Where do they come from if they're not a disc included with the set. My 6550 from sams came with 03.01.06 and the lg rep indicated on the phone that it's plug and play and no breakin needed. I'm not sure if I still should or could continue with breakin methods described here, and as mentioned, I have no idea where I would get the slides described here.

Otherwis, the pq is great. I've tweaked it and satisfied. But any input is appreciated.

Thanks.

D-Nice's slides are posted over at hdj forum. But, to maybe save you some time and ease your mind a bit, I copied this text from his opening post for the 2012 panny's.
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*****Note: ... This procedure is NOT designed nor recommended to be used as Break-in, Image Retention and/or Burn-in prevention.*****

Running the slides is a waste of time, IMO. Just enjoy your tv. smile.gif
post #755 of 1288
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Originally Posted by kkeidl View Post

I'm still confused about the slides. Where do they come from if they're not a disc included with the set. My 6550 from sams came with 03.01.06 and the lg rep indicated on the phone that it's plug and play and no breakin needed. I'm not sure if I still should or could continue with breakin methods described here, and as mentioned, I have no idea where I would get the slides described here.
Otherwis, the pq is great. I've tweaked it and satisfied. But any input is appreciated.
Thanks.

I have the slides on a zip file and running them now. If you want, I'll email you the file. Just give or pm me an address to send them to.

EDIT: 6 mores hours and my slides are done. smile.gif
post #756 of 1288
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Originally Posted by djams View Post

D-Nice's slides are posted over at hdj forum. But, to maybe save you some time and ease your mind a bit, I copied this text from his opening post for the 2012 panny's.
Running the slides is a waste of time, IMO. Just enjoy your tv. smile.gif

I figured if I could get the slides to run without any problems/hassles, I would. Otherwise, yeah, i wouldn't of been concerned.
They just age the phosphors so when you calibrate/set the tv up, it doesn't change as much over time.
post #757 of 1288
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Originally Posted by kwk1 View Post


I figured if I could get the slides to run without any problems/hassles, I would. Otherwise, yeah, i wouldn't of been concerned.
They just age the phosphors so when you calibrate/set the tv up, it doesn't change as much over time.
You're a better man than I, kwk. I just don't have the discipline to take delivery of a new tv, and then stick it in the corner for 4 days running patterns. I simply MUST play with my new toy immediately! smile.gif
post #758 of 1288
There's a firmware update, 04.00.02, for the 60PA6500. http://www.lg.com/us/support-product/lg-60PA6500#

Mine is at 03.19.05. I wonder what the update fixes? Hopefully HDMI handshake errors.

The latest firmware file for upgrade

[Applicable Model]
42PA4500-UM
50PA4500-UM
50PA4900-UD
50PA5500-UG
50PA550C-UG
50PA6500-UG
60PA5500-UG
60PA550C-UG
60PA6500-UG
60PA6550-UM

hmmm. Mine is a 60PA6500-UA, so no update for me.
post #759 of 1288
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Originally Posted by djams View Post

Running the slides is a waste of time, IMO. Just enjoy your tv. smile.gif

That's the best advice I've seen in this thread.smile.gif
post #760 of 1288
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Originally Posted by purex View Post

You Must check your complete model number, via Settings - Red Button - Product Info. Mine for example is 50PA6500-ZA. The Firmware file is different depending on your version.
I googled the entire model number and it took me to the correct LG Support Page where you can download the firmware.
I think USB streaming limits the video settings you can choose. It also limits the RATIO of the picture, i was watching a movie via USB and i only had ORIGINAL and ZOOM ( i think this was the name ). So for now, i will keep streaming my movies via PS3 Media Server, in which i have a lot more options to the image RATIO, letting me hide the bars if i want.

Quick question. . . How do you go about updating the firmware on the 6500 series? I have tried putting the unzipped file in the root of a USB stick, inserting it, and then turning the set on, but nothing. I also tried (per a website I saw for some other LG model) putting the firmware file in an "LG_DTV" directory, but again, nothing. Even though my set isn't exactly listed (60PA6550UF) in the versions supported, another poster said that his set came from Sam's Club or Costco (where I got mine), and it had the 03.01.06, which is one step newer than my version currently. I called LG and they were of no help. They said putting it in the root directory should trigger the set to update, but no dice. Another blogger said that he read somewhere on one of these forums that a keypress series has to be entered, but I haven't been able to find the post he's referring to.
post #761 of 1288
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Originally Posted by Bryan Sanders View Post

Even though my set isn't exactly listed (60PA6550UF) in the versions supported,


LG 60PA6550 US Support Site

then click on the "Software Update" tab and you'll find the file "Software_Upgrade_Guide(English).pdf'


But if you think their support were "of no help" previously, wait till next time when you explain to them that you somehow successfully flashed an incorrect firmware and now your television isn't operable afterwards.





edited to correct for model number of OP
Edited by - wardog - - 9/2/12 at 1:44am
post #762 of 1288
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Originally Posted by kwk1 View Post

Buzzing seems about the same,

Ken,

I'm curious, what's the altitude where you live and or have your display at?
post #763 of 1288
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Originally Posted by - wardog - View Post

LG 60PA6550 US Support Site
then click on the "Software Update" tab and you'll find the file "Software_Upgrade_Guide(English).pdf'
But if you think their support were "of no help" previously, wait till next time when you explain to them that you somehow successfully flashed an incorrect firmware and now your television isn't operable afterwards.
edited to correct for model number of OP

When I spoke to the rep at LG, I told them that I have the 60PA6550-UF and that my firmware is 03.19.05, and they told me that my newest firmware would be the 03.01.06, which doesn't have the UF listed as one of the relevant models. This is was what had me thinking that the two letter extension isn't set in stone on this. . .

Can someone with a PA6550-UF model (50" or 60") confirm what your firmware is?

Settings >> Red Button >> Product Info

Thanks
post #764 of 1288
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Originally Posted by - wardog - View Post

Ken,
I'm curious, what's the altitude where you live and or have your display at?

No mountains here, I live on the prairies.
Just a bit above sea level.
I finished the slides and hooked the tv up to the stb. The buzzing is a non-issue, especially with any volume on.
So that's all good.
I have 2 other questions though.
I can't find in the settings anywhere the pixel orbiter or the screen wash function.

Also, with the picture settings I'm using, some of the whites are washed/blown out.
Is there a particular setting I can change for this?
These are what I'm using for now till I get another 100 or 200 hours.

Aspect Ratio: 16:9
Energy Saving: Off
Picture Mode: Standard (User)
Contrast:70
Brightness:50
Sharpness:10
Color: 48
Tint: G8
Color Temp: W10

Advanced Control

Dynamic Contrast: Off
Noise Reduction: Off
Gamma: Medium
Black Level: Low
Color Gamut: Wide
Edge Enhancement: Off


Thanks
post #765 of 1288
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Originally Posted by Bryan Sanders View Post

Quick question. . . How do you go about updating the firmware on the 6500 series? I have tried putting the unzipped file in the root of a USB stick, inserting it, and then turning the set on, but nothing. I also tried (per a website I saw for some other LG model) putting the firmware file in an "LG_DTV" directory, but again, nothing. Even though my set isn't exactly listed (60PA6550UF) in the versions supported, another poster said that his set came from Sam's Club or Costco (where I got mine), and it had the 03.01.06, which is one step newer than my version currently. I called LG and they were of no help. They said putting it in the root directory should trigger the set to update, but no dice. Another blogger said that he read somewhere on one of these forums that a keypress series has to be entered, but I haven't been able to find the post he's referring to.

I Created a folder called LG_DTV in the root of the usb stick. Then when i inserted the pen in the TV, it was recognized instantly and asked if i wanted to install the firmware. I did this procedure always with the TV powered ON.

So i guess the firmware you´re trying, it´s not adequate to your specific model. If it´s not listed in the support page, don´t try it; you could brick the set. LG should clearly specify which one is correct to your specific model.
post #766 of 1288
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Originally Posted by kwk1 View Post

No mountains here, I live on the prairies.
Just a bit above sea level.
I finished the slides and hooked the tv up to the stb. The buzzing is a non-issue, especially with any volume on.
So that's all good.
I have 2 other questions though.
I can't find in the settings anywhere the pixel orbiter or the screen wash function.
Also, with the picture settings I'm using, some of the whites are washed/blown out.
Is there a particular setting I can change for this?
These are what I'm using for now till I get another 100 or 200 hours.
Aspect Ratio: 16:9
Energy Saving: Off
Picture Mode: Standard (User)
Contrast:70
Brightness:50
Sharpness:10
Color: 48
Tint: G8
Color Temp: W10
Advanced Control
Dynamic Contrast: Off
Noise Reduction: Off
Gamma: Medium
Black Level: Low
Color Gamut: Wide
Edge Enhancement: Off
Thanks

I cant´t speak for the settings you posted, but concerning to the ISM Method, you can change it in the Settings - Options - ISM Method - Normal / Orbiter / Color Wash.
post #767 of 1288
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Originally Posted by kwk1 View Post

No mountains here, I live on the prairies.
Just a bit above sea level.
I finished the slides and hooked the tv up to the stb. The buzzing is a non-issue, especially with any volume on.
So that's all good.
I have 2 other questions though.
I can't find in the settings anywhere the pixel orbiter or the screen wash function.
Also, with the picture settings I'm using, some of the whites are washed/blown out.
Is there a particular setting I can change for this?
These are what I'm using for now till I get another 100 or 200 hours.
Aspect Ratio: 16:9
Energy Saving: Off
Picture Mode: Standard (User)
Contrast:70
Brightness:50
Sharpness:10
Color: 48
Tint: G8
Color Temp: W10
Advanced Control
Dynamic Contrast: Off
Noise Reduction: Off
Gamma: Medium
Black Level: Low
Color Gamut: Wide
Edge Enhancement: Off
Thanks

Set your gamma to high, and color gamut to standard did wonders for me.

I would tone down the color temp as well.

There are different opinions on contrast during break in. Some say to set it high too really cook the phosphors to prevent IR, and some say that is bad and keep it at 70 or below.

During the first 100 hours I kept it at 80. I think if you go through the entire thread most people who have posted their settings have kept contrast between 88 to 91 after break in.
post #768 of 1288
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Originally Posted by grnbd View Post

Set your gamma to high, and color gamut to standard did wonders for me.
I would tone down the color temp as well.
There are different opinions on contrast during break in. Some say to set it high too really cook the phosphors to prevent IR, and some say that is bad and keep it at 70 or below.
During the first 100 hours I kept it at 80. I think if you go through the entire thread most people who have posted their settings have kept contrast between 88 to 91 after break in.

I put the gamma to high, the color gamut to standard and changed the color temp to W3.
Seems okay for now.

I have to go through the manual again to find the wash and orbiter.

Thanks grnbd
post #769 of 1288
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Originally Posted by kwk1 View Post

I put the gamma to high, the color gamut to standard and changed the color temp to W3.
Seems okay for now.
I have to go through the manual again to find the wash and orbiter.
Thanks grnbd

Hit settings-> Options

Orbiter and wash are in IM Settings
post #770 of 1288
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Originally Posted by grnbd View Post

Hit settings-> Options
Orbiter and wash are in IM Settings

Thanks grnbd, I went through the manual again and found it was in IM settings.
Had to try and remember where IM settings were, lol.
Now have orbiter on.
So far, just watching HD broadcast, I'm liking the set very much.
I may hook up the AVR and BD player tomorrow.
post #771 of 1288
Might be a random question, but where are people's hotspots on the back of your TV's?

I found myself rooting around the back of my tv after about 3 hours on today, and I noticed the top left and right corners on the back were hot to the touch, but the rest of the venting areas on the back were nice and cold.
post #772 of 1288
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Originally Posted by jlathe View Post

Might be a random question, but where are people's hotspots on the back of your TV's?
I found myself rooting around the back of my tv after about 3 hours on today, and I noticed the top left and right corners on the back were hot to the touch, but the rest of the venting areas on the back were nice and cold.

Correct, the top right and left (about six inches in from edges) get the warmest. On mine, the right side gets hotter than the left.
post #773 of 1288
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Originally Posted by jlathe View Post

Might be a random question, but where are people's hotspots on the back of your TV's?
I found myself rooting around the back of my tv after about 3 hours on today, and I noticed the top left and right corners on the back were hot to the touch, but the rest of the venting areas on the back were nice and cold.

I think the way it works as hot air rises out of the top vents, cold air is sucked into the bottom vents.
post #774 of 1288
Anyone getting brightness/gamma fluctuations? Mainly on Free to air?
post #775 of 1288
Free to air? You mean OTA HD? Do you have Dynamic Contrast set, and/or Gamma set to high? That could do it. Heck, for that matter APS/ECO Power Savings could possibly do it. Turn everything off, other than setting Colour Gamut to Wide and sharpness, contrast and brightness - any you already know those numbers: 10, 92, 49 respectively.

Re: Fry's Electronics and the 55ST50, I made a mistake, the 50ST50 is now going for $1399. The 55ST50 is still going for $1599. Yep, I'm still delighted that I didn't spend the extra $700. Still can't find any UT50s locally.
post #776 of 1288
Here's a gaming tip on the PA6500/PA6550 - I'm currently playing Dead Island and there's a health meter that stays up more often than not with bright white squares on a red background. It's too big for the orbiter to shift it out of it's own way, so I figured out a great compromise. About every half hour, I change the screen ratio from 16x9 to "Just Scan". I keep flip-flopping the setting roughly every half hour. It takes 2-3 seconds - a few presses of the "ratio" button, and it's the equivalent of the orbiter on steroids. I'd imagine this technique would shift just about any static HUD enough that it wouldn't pose much of a problem, as the previous image has a half hour to erase itself. It's a subtle change in the picture, so it doesn't affect the gaming experience, but it achieves its purpose of moving the screen around. Another nice feature of this set that I wish my Panasonic had is the 16 levels of zoom, as this could also be utilized to offset a static HUD by zooming in just a notch or two, as opposed to the full blown zoom that Panasonic utilizes.
post #777 of 1288
No flame, only a smile. Wires are wires, essentially. Certainly there are differences in conductance. However, between two cables of reasonably good quality, I suspect that the use of gold in consumer electronic cabling is oversold. I believe there are other factors that 'might' have a higher impact. Such as, twists per inch, density of weave in the shield, tightness of connectors and how well they are connected, the quality of any dielectrics. For the length of cables that run between components, any negative effects ought to be minimal. And, if there are any, it is more related to intermittant disturbances rather than image quality; the digital processing would swamp anything related to those physical effects.
post #778 of 1288
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Originally Posted by purex View Post

I Created a folder called LG_DTV in the root of the usb stick. Then when i inserted the pen in the TV, it was recognized instantly and asked if i wanted to install the firmware. I did this procedure always with the TV powered ON.
So i guess the firmware you´re trying, it´s not adequate to your specific model. If it´s not listed in the support page, don´t try it; you could brick the set. LG should clearly specify which one is correct to your specific model.

Outside the realm of TVs, LG has a fairly poor history of firmware support (by either never updating phones, or breaking things with the updates). I wouldn't be surprised at all if the firmware listed on the website works for -UA models. Otherwise, why would they put it on the US support site? Every one of these LGs I have seen in the United States has been a -UA model.

Or this could be LG screwing up and the people with the UA models will never get an update.

Oh and it anyone with a UA can flash this firmware and it bricks their TV, that is a LG problem one way or another. It is extremely easy for the firmware update process to have a model check built into it. Not including a model check into a firmware updater would be a rookie.
post #779 of 1288
I am taking delivery of a 60PA6500 tomorrow morning. Very cool to see so much information available for these LGs, I'm replacing a 42" Hitachi plasma from about 2006/2007 and there was never much information out there about it.

With the HDMI input on the 60PA6500 sticking out straight, I was going to ask if I should use a 90 degree HDMI adapter for wall mounting instead of putting stress on the connecter as the cable bends ... and whether those 90 degree adapters would degrade signal quality at all. But, by searching through the forums quickly, I believe I've answered that -- doesn't sound like the 90 degree adapters are a problem at all.

FWIW, the Labor Day sales around me had the 60PA6500 model for $899 at Best Buy, and ~975 at HH Gregg (I assume they'd price match). Another mostly-local electronics store (American TV and Appliance in the WI area) had the very similar 60PA5500 for $879. I did a healthy amount of research and could find no difference between the 5500 and the 6500, but went with the 6500 to avoid more travel. Some of those Labor Day sales are good 'til the end of the week.
post #780 of 1288
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Originally Posted by ocellaris View Post

Outside the realm of TVs, LG has a fairly poor history of firmware support (by either never updating phones, or breaking things with the updates). I wouldn't be surprised at all if the firmware listed on the website works for -UA models. Otherwise, why would they put it on the US support site? Every one of these LGs I have seen in the United States has been a -UA model.
Or this could be LG screwing up and the people with the UA models will never get an update.
Oh and it anyone with a UA can flash this firmware and it bricks their TV, that is a LG problem one way or another. It is extremely easy for the firmware update process to have a model check built into it. Not including a model check into a firmware updater would be a rookie.

Mine is a 50pa6500-UG, has anyone done the update for that one yet?
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